My First Million: The Body Stack Episode: What Sam and Shaan Do To Get Healthy And How Much They Spend Doing It

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Like the point of business and money is like to live a really long and good life.

And the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two, number one is just like

being fit.

I feel like I can rule the world.

I know I could be what I want to put my all in it like no days off on a road.

Let's travel never looking back.

All right.

It's Friday and we're going to do something a little different.

So you know, people know us, they know us for our brains.

They know us for our money, but they also know us for our body.

Me and Sam, we're doing an episode and for some reason we got on a 30 minute tangent

about fitness as an entrepreneur, fitness as a business person.

What we do more specifically, like what's the routines?

What are the things that are working for us?

What are the tactics?

What are the goals?

We have things like that.

So we decided to make it a separate episode.

So this is the body episode of my first million.

Let us know if you like it.

Sam, what are they going to get by listening to this?

I name drop lots of products that I pay for.

None of these people have paid me.

I'm more than happy to accept payment from them.

So if you're my fitness pal, yeah, I use my fitness pal.

I love it.

So if you guys want to give me some money, let's just put it out there.

If you are one of these companies or a competitor to one of these companies, pay us.

Yeah, willing to be bought.

So anyway, it's a 30 minute episode on, or is it 30, maybe 20 on different fitness stuff

and the things that we spend our money on to be fit, which basically is kind of more

important than the whole making money thing.

Because if you're not fit and you're not healthy, you can't really do that thing.

So we talked about it.

As one of our friends, as one of our friends who's, you know, super successful.

They've been a guest on the podcast before, worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

They said this once, and I can't use their name because it's a little not politically

correct, but they said this, if you're rich, there's no excuse to be fat.

They said that because I was like, man, you spend a lot of time like working out.

Like, what are you trying to do here?

And they just said, like, look, the point of having financial freedom is to be able to

spend it on, spend your time doing things that are like, you know, luxuries, things

that like make your life better.

And one of the things that makes your life way better is having a good, like kind of

fitness routine and being a, you know, a healthy fit person.

And so that's kind of the idea.

Sam is extremely fit.

Sam, you're like in the top 0.1% probably of like founders who are fit.

Well, yeah, I mean, I added the founder Venn diagram.

Yeah.

Give me that founder thing.

And yeah, we'll definitely go at 0.1%.

But you know, that's like, that's an easy, that's an easy game to win, maybe.

And I've been going from pretty unfit to now like, you know, as we say, I was the before

before photo, now I'm just a before photo and I'm getting to the after.

And so you get both perspectives.

You get the perspective of somebody who's like all about that life and somebody who

is like, you know, it doesn't come easy to them, but they're, they're making it happen.

So, so yeah, enjoy the episode.

So I went, I went on Craigslist because I had wanted something and I think Craigslist

is massively underrated.

Craigslist is so good.

There is, if you want a job, Craigslist, if you want to couch Craigslist, if you want

to want to learn something Craigslist, if you want to hook up Craigslist, whatever you

want, Craigslist has got the thing for you.

And it has the most liquidity.

So you go in there and I was looking for a new, a new chef.

And so I went on there and I was like, oh, new chef immediately started getting hit with

things.

And I was like, why don't I use Craigslist more?

Look at these responses.

This is amazing.

So I was like, what else do I want?

All right.

Craigslist is my like magic lamp that's the genie and I need to go and I need to make

another wish.

And I was like, oh, yeah, remember that video of Mark Zuckerberg?

And so this is the part I learned from you, which is describe it like a kid with no filter.

So I literally just put up a video, I put up the post and I go, hey, I was watching,

I was on TikTok and I saw this video.

It looked awesome.

I want to do that.

So I was like, I want to do that.

That looks fun.

And I was like, will you come, I was like, will somebody come to my house to just like

train me kind of like that?

Yeah, I don't, I'm not, I'm a beginner and I don't even really want to ever fight.

I just think that looks like a really fun workout.

So I want to do that.

I don't know who I need.

You don't have to be an expert.

Just watch that video.

And if you think you could do that for me, then just call me or maybe text me, whatever.

So I posted that and immediately I got a hit from some guy who's like, hey, I did MMA

for 10 years.

I could totally train you.

He's like, I trained with the Diaz brothers in Stockton and, you know, I'm a Caesar Gracie

purple belt.

I'm a striker.

But I was like, whoa, okay, great.

So he calls me and I'm like, all right, yeah, do I need like equipment or like, how do I

do this?

And he was just like, no, he's like, you don't need anything.

I was like, what do you do during the day?

He's like, I'm a handyman.

And I was like, oh, this is cool because I'll get back into shape too.

And I was like, all right, sounds fun.

Did he like fix a bunch of stuff afterwards at your house?

No, but in my mind, I was like, dude, I've been looking for a handyman.

My life's always on me about building and assembling things and hanging things.

I was like, this is two for one, baby.

And so which basically means this guy is like the reason he was on Craigslist, who's probably

looking for handyman gigs.

Yeah, exactly.

And he just happened to see this was like, oh, I used to walk past.

And what I knew he would be good.

And he goes, what are you doing today?

And I was like, uh, uh, I was like mentally not prepared to like immediately.

Get in a fight today.

So I was like, no.

But how about tomorrow?

He's like, all right, I'll be there.

What time?

I was like, I don't know.

Let's do the morning.

He goes, great.

I'll be there at eight AM.

And so he came over.

We trained and he came over, by the way, looking like a handyman.

He comes over and is like handyman boots.

His like, you know, like those jeans that are like covered in paint and he's like rolls

up.

He's got a set of keys that has like 1400 keys on it.

I was like, bro, do you have the keys to my house?

What's going on here?

And so he just got all these keys, brings his boots and he's just like, so he's one

of these guys that works out in his jeans or what?

Yeah.

So he basically did the whole workout in his jeans, which was crazy to me.

And he's like throwing kicks in his combat boots.

And I was like, what the hell is going on?

But he knew what he was talking about.

And so he trained me and I'm still super sore.

It was incredible.

My hand, I had to ice my knuckles.

My hand wasn't so much pain last night.

It was great.

I don't know if this is legit.

I felt like a real big.

Did you do some, did you do a little reference checking?

Like, I don't know if that's how it works.

No, I don't do reference checks.

That's right.

Did you guys risk it all times?

Did you like wrestle or did you do this?

Like, did you roll?

What did you do?

Yeah.

Well, he's like, all right, we're going to start with the basics.

He's like, here's how you move your feet.

And he's like, here's how you throw a jab.

Here's the thing across.

And it's like, and you know, you know these things, but he's like, you know, clean it

up, right?

Like, let's do these right.

And then, but I told him, I was like, dude, I don't want to just learn tactics.

Like, I'm not here to learn technique.

I'll learn just enough technique to make the session worth it.

So I was like, I was like, you know, that video, I want the sweat that they were breaking.

I want the way that they were breaking that sweat, a competitive sweat is what I'm looking

for.

And then he, he hits me with this, he goes, yeah, I didn't watch the video, but I got

an idea of what you want.

And I was like, bro, there was only one thing in the ad.

It was what to do with that video.

You didn't even watch the video.

He's like, no.

And, but at the end, we basically like sparred.

And so for 10 minutes, we just like fought.

And it was amazing.

My brother-in-law came.

A long time listen to the pod, no, brother Aaron, he, he was there and he kind of like

vouch or not vouch, but he kind of checked the guy out.

I know nothing to check the guy out.

He was just like my sparring partner to do the thing.

Dude, I'm reading.

This is so funny.

You're bringing this up this morning.

You know, I listened to like three audio books a week because I go, I like walking.

Well, I, you know, I like walking and the book that I'm listening to now it's called

when violence is the answer and the premises is that basically like violence is rarely

the answer.

But when it is, it's the only answer.

And when it is the only answer, you want to act fast and as violently as possible.

And it just tells like stories that like, he's like, I'm not teaching you tactics, we're

going to talk principles and that the whole book is basically like when you have to be

violent, you want to annihilate them as fast as possible and take their mind completely

out of the equation because like it's like, if you ever get in like punched in the balls,

you're like, oh, I can't fight.

Like there's nothing I can think about right now or imagine like being in a fight and like

just having your elbow broken.

You know what I mean?

You're like, I can't do anything right now.

Like I don't even want to think about this versus like punched in the face.

Sometimes you could still like, anyway, it's so funny you're doing this now because I'll

have to give you the cliff notes of when violence is the answer as soon as I dig deeper into

it.

Anyways, it was an amazing workout.

And I think my takeaway is Zuck and his interview, so Zuck went on Joe Rogan, he was talking

about it and Joe's like, you're doing MMA now.

And he's like, yeah, you know, but I just, whatever, he gives some reason for starting.

He goes, it's not like, why are you doing MMA?

It's more, he's like, now that I'm doing it, I'm like, why have I not been doing this

my whole life?

And he goes, this is, it's clearly the best and he says it like, it's such a, you know,

computer nerd sort of way where it's like, I have found the best workout, right?

It's like in the office, what is the best bear?

There is a best, there is a best bear.

So that's how you say it.

And I was like, yeah, exactly false, MMA is the best bear.

And so that's how I, that's how, when he said that, I was like, that's probably right.

And I liked the idea of getting competitive sweat in the morning and I told the guy,

you know, look, I'm going to sit at my keyboard all day after this, but like, if I could start

the day with kind of like a, this like very intense, can't think about anything else type

of workout, right?

Like extreme focus is required.

My mind is not going to be drifting around thinking about the to-do list and about this

and about that.

My email, no, I'm going to be locked into this.

It's a very primal thing.

I'm going to break a huge sweat.

And then I can go on with my day and everything else in my day I will have, it'll be much

easier.

I can't really acquire with you, but I feel like that's been my, my realization with it.

I wanted to spend 10 minutes and bring this topic up because you sent me this gym picture

and your gym looked sick.

And I, and like two years ago or a year and a half ago, you saw mine and you're like,

I'm going to get one.

And you got one.

And it looks awesome.

And then like four years ago, maybe you weren't in the best of shape and you've made a big

difference.

And so have I in terms of fitness.

And I was thinking, I saw this guy, he's a picture of a 71 year old, his name's Mark.

He started primal or primal kitchen, I think it's called.

And it's like a sauce business that I love, but he's 71 years old and he shared this picture

of him.

And he just looks great.

He's not like huge muscle guy, but he's like really fit abs looks awesome.

And I realized this is the point of business.

Like the point of business and money is like a, there's like some practical reasons.

So providing for your, your family to it's fun and fulfilling.

But three, like the point is like to live a really long and good life.

And the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two.

Number one is just like being fit.

And I wanted to spend 10 minutes talking about my personal, I was like, what do engineers

say?

They say like tech stack, marketing stack.

Let's talk about our body stack, our tech stack, not our tech stack.

And I wanted to run, run through all the things that I'm currently doing.

And I would put myself in the category of a weekend warrior, meaning I don't have like

formal education on this, but I do listen to podcasts and I read books and I'm like

self educated, which means, you know, like I'm a B maybe or not, not an expert, but

I, I try to read and learn and teach myself.

Okay.

Great.

Go for it.

All right.

So let me walk through.

So what I do, and then I want, and I'll go first and then you can go because I know you

didn't prepare.

So you can kind of like think about it as I do it.

So what I do, I do four, four days a week of strength training and then the other three

days cardio, those are usually lifting weights or body weight stuff.

So that means you're working out every day, you're doing seven days or you take a rest

day.

Some days you do two.

I do, I do every single day.

The day that I want to rest is I'll just go for like a 15,000 step walk, which is like

a two hour walk.

That's usually rest.

And then I sleep from 11 to seven.

And right now I'm around 11 or 12% body fat with, and I have a background in athletics.

So I'm not like a complete new, but I basically just learned all about this in the last like

six, seven years.

I used to just do what I was told.

Now I kind of know why I'm doing what I'm told.

And my goals with, with healthy eating and working out is basically three things.

One, live a long and healthy life to look good naked.

And three, like achieve certain like fun goals, like running a certain race, hitting a certain

body fat percentage, lifting a certain amount of weight, just fun stuff.

But that's really the simple stuff.

People don't admit that.

It's, I just want to look good naked.

You know what I mean?

That's not weird.

That's not weird.

That's not weird to say.

That's not weird.

Might be a little weird.

Look, I'm just saying what people think.

So all right, here's the products that I use for, I spent $299 a month, $300 a month.

And I have a trainer at central athlete.

It's a place in Austin.

They, I have an app.

They just tell me exactly what to do.

And if I have questions or an injury or I'm traveling, I text my trainer, Jesse, and

I say, traveling, let's adapt this workout.

And then we meet once a month to say, all right, here's the goals for the next month.

Let's try and do this.

Here's my goals for next year.

Let's work backwards.

The second thing I do is I pay $600 a month for a daily call from a nutritionist with

my body tutor.

Soon I'm going to switch to the $200 a month plan.

And that's going to be a once a week call, I think, but I spent $600 a month and basically

I have someone calling me every day saying, what's the plan today for your diet?

Let's work backwards from where you want to go, whatever.

It's a 15 minute call.

The third thing is I spent around $3,000 to $5,000 upfront costs and I built a home

gym.

Maybe it could have been 2,500, but I think it was probably 3,500.

Another thing is I do blood work.

So two to three times a year, I spend on average $200 to $300 and I do inside tracker.

It's just a fun way to track your blood and see where you are and see if you can improve

things that were not so great the time before.

The next thing is I get massages one to two days a week at this place called the Run Lab

in Austin, which basically just, I have a history of calf injuries and so they massage

my calf and it's covered by insurance.

So I only pay about 20 bucks each time I go.

And then I do a subscription to Aptiv.

Have you heard of Aptiv?

Yeah.

It's like an audio workout thing.

Yeah.

I pay $100 a year for that.

So whenever I'm traveling and I need to do a body weight workout like I did this weekend,

I say I want to do a 60 minute body weight workout and it's like a trainer in your ears

and I find that to be fun.

The next thing is I do my fitness pal.

I track everything I eat and I spend 60 bucks a year on that and then I spend $100 a year

for Fitiv.

It's called, it's an, whenever I do cardio, I always try to keep my heart rate right

at like 145 beats per minute if I'm doing like a long cardio workout because that's

like perfect.

Like I think it's zone three.

And then I basically subscribed to Pandora, I'm like the only guy ever who pays money

for Pandora.

So I paid money for Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Audible and I listen to all those when

I work out because I love doing that.

Next I have zero budget for whole foods and healthy foods.

Whatever I see and I want, I get.

I don't question the price.

I just think I'm doing it no matter what.

And then finally I probably spend around $1,000 a year on equipment.

So I have lifting shoes, I have like a lifting belt.

I replace my running shoes consistently and I buy any type of equipment that I need.

I buy it.

And then finally I listened to Nick Bear.

You know who that is?

Remember that rip dude?

Yeah, he came on the pot.

Yeah.

He's amazing.

So I listened to his podcast and I listened to Mind Body Pump.

That's another one of my favorite fitness podcasts.

And then I just follow tons of rip dudes on Instagram and you know, they say you're the

average of the five people you hang out with most.

I feel like I'm the average of like the 50 followers that I follow on Instagram.

So I'm just constantly like seeing like rip dudes and like people running far and running

fast.

I get that on Instagram.

So that's all my equipment.

I'm going to wrap it up with, here's the rules that I basically have for my fitness and

my health.

So I always have a goal with a deadline, meaning like next year my goal is going to be to run

a 100 mile race.

This year was to hit body fat percentage.

So I always have a goal.

Number two, I always hire coaches.

If there's anything I want to learn last year, I learned boxing, I had a boxing coach this

year.

I want to take my nutrition right.

I had a nutritionist.

I always hire a coach no matter what.

Finally or the third one, no processed foods and no sugar unless it's planned and it's

intentional.

So like I know like two weeks, three weeks in advance, this is a special occasion.

I want to splurge there.

I don't fret over money if it makes me healthier.

And finally, I'm not trying to be perfect.

I'm just trying to be the least bad most of the time and intentional about when I am going

to like splurge.

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So what does that add up to the dollar amounts that you just mentioned?

Did you sum it up by any chance?

Well, so I didn't have the exact cost of my home gym because I spent about three grand

up front and then I've been buying stuff as I've gone.

Yeah, let's call it five.

Let's call it five grand.

We'll call it five.

Then I would say I spend around $15,000 a year.

And you know, like LeBron James has this famous stat where it's like, I spent a million

dollars a year on my body.

And when that first came out, other athletes were like, whoa, you know, like other NBA guys

were like, I don't spend anywhere near that.

But you look at LeBron, he's sort of like the pinnacle athlete in terms of physical fitness.

Even athletes in other sports, I've heard NFL guys reference that I've met NFL guys

and they talk about, yeah, LeBron said he spent this, that got me thinking, what am

I spending on?

Why am I not investing in my body?

Conor McGregor has said that he goes, I heard LeBron James says he spends a million dollars

a year.

I'm thinking, I didn't spend anything.

And so then he started like, he hired like full time staff and people and started doing

the whole thing.

And so I think that it's funny how that one person saying that, you know, like triggered

a kind of a chain reaction.

And I actually think it's smart that you're sharing this because it's not our typical

thing we talk about on the pod.

We'll joke around about it, but it's not like a usual segment on the pod.

But I think it is a big part of being an entrepreneur and a founder is like, dude, that

founder 15 is real.

That founder, for me, it was the founder 45 that was real, dude, I gained so much weight

stressing out, eating wrong, sleeping shitty, you know, not working out because I didn't

have time and that really costs you.

And so I think it's great that you decided to do this segment.

You had one more thing you were going to say at the end.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The other thing.

So we didn't even talk about mental health stuff.

So the mental health stuff, like I write every morning and it's not like dear journal,

typically.

It's like, here's what I want to get done today.

Like I'm pretty bummed about this, this and this, but I'm very thankful for this.

So like that's my version of writing and then like obviously like lots of therapy.

So those are like my mental health things.

But all right.

Last thing, the things I want to try.

So one, an executive health checkup.

So basically you spend some number between five and 20 grand a year or 20 grand in one

turn and you go for three days to a Mayo clinic and they just do all types of stuff to you.

I'm not convinced that it's entirely needed, but I test everything just mostly for fun.

Number two, a concierge doctor.

Have you ever had one of those?

Briefly.

I had a concierge doctor.

It was amazing.

Yes.

I had one when I was, one time I got really sick with Lyme and my face like broke.

I had like Bell's palsy.

It was horrible.

So I spent 25 grand.

I had a concierge doctor, a doctor on call.

And that was awesome.

I want to get one of those.

The third thing, skin stuff.

Do you do anything for your skin?

Like wear sunscreen?

No.

I don't do that.

I do that.

Honestly, I haven't washed my face in like six years.

I might be, I might be a white guy, you know, underneath all this.

This might just be stupid that I sit down here.

Like people are like, oh, what face wash do you use?

I was like, my face gets wet during the shower gets wet.

That's the wash, bro.

Like there's not, there's not a routine left over on the towel when I wipe my face off

and dry it off as the soap that I'm using.

Dude, I don't know if it's a woman thing or if it's a black woman thing because my wife

is like knows everything about like skincare.

She's like, you got to use this, then you got to do this, you got to do this.

And I'm like, dude, that's just way too complicated and I'm doing any of that.

I'm just going to use the hand soap.

But basically I have to use sunscreen.

She's telling me.

So I want to start doing some, some skin stuff.

And then the last thing, dude, I want to do a five day fast.

I was pretty inspired by John Lee Dumas.

That's like on my bucket list is a five day fast.

So those are some of the things I want to try, but that's my, that's my body stack.

All right.

So my buddy is going through a company acquisition and he's like, oh yeah, you know, I'm going

to have to earn it out there, blah, blah, blah.

And I told him, I said, you know, when we got acquired, I did one thing really well.

I go, I wrote down, I was like, all right, I know what this year is all about.

It's this acquisition.

And I know this could go many ways.

I talked to a bunch of people who got acquired.

And for some of them, they just got really depressed.

They were bored at the acquiring company.

For some people, they had a great time.

Some people it was just sort of like, uh, dude, I don't even remember.

Just sort of like, you know, whatever.

I don't know.

That was years ago.

And I honestly, I was just kind of a zombie while I was on autopilot.

I don't really, I didn't really have much intention behind how I spent that year.

So I said, all right, I'm going to have some intent.

So I wrote this document and I'm going to read part of it to you.

You tell me when this gets boring, we'll switch it.

But I go, my 2019 mindsets, this is 2019.

We got acquired by Twitch.

Where'd you write this?

Just in Google docs.

And at the top, I wrote, time is what we want the most, but we use the worst.

I said, this document is a chance to think about how I want to spend the next year of

my life.

Time is the most precious resource.

Here's how I'm going to invest it.

I go, number one, get fit, enjoyably.

Number two, earn and learn.

Number three, become a great person like Ramon.

Those are my three sections.

Our buddy Ramon is the honoree.

So I'm going to get fit, enjoyably.

And I go, every year I'm getting fatter, less mobile, and I shorten my lifespan.

This is a bad trajectory.

I need to invest now or I'm going to pay later.

Hell, I'm paying right now.

And I go, I think getting fit means dropping to 185 pounds, feeling athletic.

And the word enjoyably is really important.

Every time I've tried this in the past, I start, I get motivated, I take some action,

get some results, but it's hard.

I don't really like it.

So I slip up and eventually give up all together.

Three weeks later.

I'm back on my couch and my boxers eating chips and queso again.

This cycle is bad.

Long story short, willpower is not the, not the fuel to use.

If I use a willpower, I fail.

Instead, I'm going to find a way to do this in a way that's enjoyable because when I

like it, I'll do it.

So that means I got to figure out foods that are clean that I actually like.

I got to figure out exercise that's good that I actually look forward to doing.

Here's what winning looks like.

I'm 185 pounds.

This is what I wrote at the time.

I got nowhere close to this.

I'm 185 pounds by the end of 2020.

And with a new set of exercise and eating habits that I enjoy and I'm not forcing myself

to maintain.

All right.

So that was the, the first part, a little, a little letter to myself.

I, I'm proud of reading this.

I was like, you know, I did not hit that goal.

I'm not 185.

Even now I've probably two, 12, two, 13.

So it doesn't even sound like much 10 pounds, but it was, but I probably double that in

terms of muscle mass composition versus body fat.

You did 185 for you, a lot of people don't realize this, but you're 61.

You think you're, are you above 61, you think?

Yeah.

Like you're, that 185 would be pretty small.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

I picked a number, but like specifics aside, I think I got the idea right.

And I don't want to look back.

So at that time I was working out zero times a week.

I was eating like dog shit and I was, I really didn't have even a game plan.

And in fact, I actually had very little evidence that like this was doable for some people.

If you've been in great shape before, you always have that.

You've got that in your back pocket.

I have done this before.

Imagine never having done it, right?

Like never, I never saw an app.

It was the Loch Ness monster of my body.

It was like, where, where is this thing?

And so that was where I was at.

Now the two things that worked for me.

So in terms of your text, in terms of your body stack, I share two things, but I do everything

else differently.

So I also get a coach for everything that I'm doing.

So I have a personal trainer who I talk about a bunch.

I have a nutrition.

I use the same.

Once you told me about my body tutor, I do the $200 a month plan where I text her every

day.

You dig it?

What I, what I'm eating.

I dig it.

Yeah.

I, I'm not the most consistent with it.

Like I will forget to update it at night.

I'll update it later, but like whatever, just a little late.

And yeah.

So I do the coach thing.

That was really, really important.

And I, like I was saying with the MMA thing.

Same thing.

Oh, I want to do this.

Let me get a coach.

And a coach is not because you don't know how to do it.

It's because it's like the real way to commit to doing it.

And for me, I was like, even better, I need somebody to show up at my house.

So I looked at what are the things that tripped me up.

I was like, it's not like I'm going to the gym and doing a crappy workout.

I'm just not going to the gym.

And so I was like, I need to find a way to go to the gym.

I was like, all right, well, what if the gym came to me?

So I saw your home gym.

I got inspired.

I was like, dude, what's the flooring you're used?

What's this that you bought?

What's this?

I asked you for every little piece.

And it was way easier than you thought.

Wasn't it?

Dude, I copied the exact same thing.

I bought the same rubber mats for my floor.

It wasn't a lot of stuff.

It wasn't a lot of stuff.

And you know, a few kettlebells, this, that, great, got it.

So got a home gym and then I got a trainer to come to my house.

Now obviously there's a luxury.

Not everybody could afford to do this.

But hey, that's the point of this show.

It's about like, you know, building wealth and then figuring out how to use it.

And so this is how to use it.

Second thing was nutrition.

So okay, the coaching thing I'm right on board with you.

Second thing was remove friction, find the places that like the habit slips up and just

literally try to get rid of that step.

So that was bringing the gym to me.

The last piece was basically like, what is the, what is the version of this I'm going

to enjoy?

So I had to find a trainer who I vibe with, who I actually like hanging out with them.

Like the conversation is fun.

It's not just that they're good at their job.

And secondly, like we do workouts that are fun for me.

Sometimes we'll just, he'll come over and it'll be like, let's go play basketball.

We'll just go to 24 hour fitness, we'll play pick up basketball.

It's kind of weird.

It's like, dude, you're, you're paying this trainer $100 to go play pick up basketball

with you.

It's like, yeah, I'm actually paying for me to exercise regularly and get in great shape.

I'm not paying for a specific hour block of time or a specific like skill set know how.

And so same thing.

MMA looks fun.

All right.

I'm going to do MMA.

We do training that's like about mobility sometimes or, or very simple things like I'll

tell them like, look, I told them very simply, what are your goals?

And I think for every other client of his is their goals are like, I want to lose weight.

I got a wedding coming up.

I got a, you know, I want to look good with my shirt off, blah, blah, blah, I want to,

you know, some shit like that.

I was like, when I stand up from sitting, I feel like an old man.

I was like, I don't get up like an athletic person.

So that's my first goal.

I want to be able to like, we do this exercise on the ground and you say, all right, let's

get up.

Let's go over here.

I don't want that to be like an 18 point turn.

Like I need to just like get up, not like, oh, yeah, come on.

Hold on.

This like straight to get on my elbow, then my knee, they might put both hands on the

ground, do like a, you know, tripod, then I'm up.

Like that's, that's how I was moving.

Honestly.

And I was like, same thing when I run, I was like, I don't know if I run right.

I think my gate is all messed up.

And so we spent a lot of time literally fixing my walking gate or my sitting posture or, you

know, like my habits for the morning of how to get loose and those things matter to me.

So I would suggest also like, don't make your goals the cliche.

Think about what actually would feel good as maybe like a middle step in between you

and being just like absolutely ripped because that became very motivating to me.

And I started to see results and all those little things first, oh, I'm smoother when

I run, I'm smoother when I walk, I get up more smoothly, I can crouch down in an easier

way and play with my kids.

That was like, I mean, I could just sit in a squat, like those things were really important.

And I had to find somebody who knew how to, who knew how to train in a functional way

like that, not just, all right, let's do, you know, three sets of 12 with a, you know,

this heavy weight.

That's it.

That's it for like working on, is it like every day at this time?

Every day at the same time, he shows up at my house, I'm not going to be rude and leave

him waiting.

I have to drop what I'm doing and I go do it.

And that's it.

And that, that's the whole thing.

What time?

So we do it at 3pm, but it doesn't, it could have been any time.

I'd actually prefer to move it to the morning now, but like, whatever, we do three at the

moment.

Dude, I don't like Andrew Tate that much because I think he says some silly stuff, but he says

a lot of interesting stuff that I agree with.

And one of the things that he said that I've been obsessing over, he goes, I'm not motivated.

I'm disciplined.

And I thought, that's beautiful.

That's a, that's a really, that's a beautiful idea.

And that has definitely, that is definitely key to achieving a lot of goals, whether it's

work or fitness, it's just like, I remember when I was starting my business at like two

o'clock, people would call him like, Hey, let's go hang out.

I'm like, dude, I got to work.

And they're like, what are you talking about?

You're the boss.

You can do anything you want.

And I remember I was like 23 and I would say, it's a school night.

You know, I can't go out on a school night.

You know, like we had these rules.

I was like, bro, I work, I get there at eight and I work until six usually, like I, and

then I go to dinner.

Like I can't do these things.

And I remember thinking, I'm not motivated to do this, but I'm happy that I have this

routine because this is discipline, whether I kind of like forced myself to do it.

Same with fitness, same with anything.

It's like motivation is a really good way to get started, but it's not a, not the best

way to maintain discipline.

And you can, the cool thing about discipline is you can kind of force yourself into it.

Like you like, you set these things up, like this guy, all you did was told this dude to

show up and now you're like, fuck, I got to do this.

I don't want to do it.

I heard this great quote on discipline because I always thought about discipline, like force

being able to force yourself to do something even if you don't want to do it.

And that's true.

That does happen, but that's not the definition.

And somebody said this beautifully.

They go, discipline is just remembering what you really want because like in the moment

you want to just sit down and rest or you just want to chill.

You just want to eat that bag of chips, whatever.

But it's like, okay, that is something I want, but what do I really want?

And if you remember what you really want, then you'll go do that thing.

You'll go do the things that vote towards that outcome versus this outcome.

And so discipline is just remembering what you really want.

It felt a lot better than like, that's something I wanted to do versus discipline being I forced

myself to do it even when I don't want to do it.

And it's like, nah, that wasn't that like appealing to me.

Yeah.

It goes away like the, when you wake up in the morning in your store.

Yeah.

The other things I was going to say are the things I do differently than you.

I don't set the specific timeline deadlines.

So which is crazy to me because like in business, of course I do that.

I will never set a goal without a timeline of like when I'm trying to do it by and if

anyone on my team tries to do that, I don't let them do it with fitness.

I looked at it differently.

Oh, look, I've tried that before.

I've tried to say I'm going to lose this by this day.

My trainer kind of taught me he was just like, look, all right.

How old are you?

And I was like, at the time I was 32 or something like that he's like, all right, 32, cool.

So you've had 32 years to build up these habits and now you're looking for a six week revamp.

Like, oh, you need this goal done in six weeks or six months or he's like, the way I look

at it, you spent 32 years getting here, maybe it's going to take a little while to get there.

And that's okay.

Right.

Like, hey, what's another year?

You know, what's, what's a year or two of working at this when you spent 30 doing it

the wrong way?

Can we spend a few doing it the right way?

And he was sort of like, what I don't want is you work out and blah, blah, blah, then

you, oh, you go and you doordash some Taco Bell.

Now you're feeling guilty and you're eating the wrong thing goes.

If you're going to eat it, eat it and enjoy it.

Don't bring the guilt into it.

Yeah.

That's the intentional thing.

Don't, don't feel bad that you're now it's a setback and has this mental baggage about

how bad it's going to be.

He's like, just remember when you're the dude who you like, who you're becoming, you can

eat Taco Bell.

It's not even going to mess with you.

He's like, I can eat it.

I can eat Taco Bell every day this week.

I won't change a thing.

Lift up his shirt.

Still there.

Right.

And he's like, that's who you're becoming.

And so you just need to like focus on that and don't, don't like go through this emotional

up and down and up and down and I'm so proud of myself for doing it good one day.

And then, oh, I hate myself for missing it the next day.

And I feel guilty.

Like that's one way you could do this, but like, how about we just don't do it that way?

And so I've gone very much the, the tortoise, not the hare route with this, which is just

like, cool.

I'm going to put no, no timelines on this.

I'm going to put no deadline.

I'm going to make it where it's unfailable.

My only goal is to rebuild my habits of eating and exercise to be healthy and I don't care

how long that takes, I'm going to do it.

And then there's no setbacks.

Everything is progress compared to how I was before, even how I was a month ago.

And so that, that has also helped me and is a very strange thing because I've never, ever

chased a goal doing it this way.

I've never let myself just do it this like infinite game style where it's like, yep,

there's no clock.

You're just trying to be better today than you were yesterday.

And like, it's okay.

You know, even if you do something that's wrong, you learn something in that process

too.

It's all right.

You know, this pat on the back style.

I tried it, but this is the first time.

So another news.

We're going to be launching guy next door fitness plan.

Yeah.

We should totally do that attainable, attainable fitness.

Yeah.

That's going to be called hot enough.

Yeah.

We're going to call it Midwest seven, a New York six.

That's amazing.

All right.

I think that's it.

That's a wrap.

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Episode 366: Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP) and Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) talk about all things body: what they do to get healthy, stay healthy and how much they spend doing it.
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Links:
* When Violence Is The Answer
* Primal Kitchen
* Central Athlete
* MyBodyTutor
* InsideTracker
* RunLab
* Aaptiv
* MyFitnessPal
* fitiv
* The Bare Performance Podcast
* Mind Pump podcast
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Show Notes:
(04:00) - Craigslist coach
(12:15) - Sam's body stack
(23:00) - Shaan's Body Google Doc
(30:00) - Discipline/motivation quote
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Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more.
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