Genstart: Taylors tidsalder

10/31/23 - Episode Page - 27m - PDF Transcript

Is it okay if I sing?

I was thinking of doing one that I'd never played live before.

It would be so presumptuous to say if you know it, sing it, but it's true.

Her concerts can be aimed at the right scale and affect the American economy.

Through her career she has been neglected and has been central to public screenings.

But she has been used actively to her own advantage.

She has been challenged by some of the most powerful men in the music industry.

A strategy that has only strengthened her popularity.

Taylor Swift has had a lot of power fights.

She has helped her on the way to become the biggest pop icon of all time.

That is today's star. My name is Anna Enrich.

You have been to Taylor Swift's concert. What was it like?

It was very sad.

And it's something I'm a little happy about today.

Several of my friends have never played in Denmark before.

It was at a very small place in Paris that I experienced her.

I don't think I really understood how lonely it was.

But now it's something I'm looking at on my phone.

What was it like to be at a concert with her?

She typically plays the big stadium concerts.

This was a small place where you could see her facial expressions.

You could see the palettes on her shirt.

It was a fan-arrangement.

There was such a big gap in the feeling that everyone who was in the room really loved Taylor Swift

and had made an effort to get there.

And you could also feel it from the scene that she knew it.

Sophie Auggdahl is an artist manager,

writer on the music media's sound venue.

And an incarnated fan of Taylor Swift.

She sings a little about love that you see love on film.

And so in these old, big, romantic film stories.

And I think both of them are extremely kitsch and extremely fantastic at the same time.

So when she sings about this with, like,

Say you'll remember me.

Standing in a white dress staring at the sunset.

I'm chromatic, but I'm also deeply inspired at the same time.

It's in the head of country music,

Nashville, Tennessee,

that Taylor Swift hits her first hit that she sings before.

She is given her debut album when she is 16,

with songs that describe a completely ordinary,

almost banal teenage experience in the south states.

How it is to be a teenager about love,

about going to school,

also about how it is maybe to be an outsider,

or not just one of the most popular girls in the school.

In that way, she is also depicted on her neighbor's cute daughter,

which is a slightly boring teenage girl like most of them.

Is there an example of that in her video?

There is of course love story,

but then there is also a song called You belong to me.

It's from 2009.

There is a song about her being in love with a woman

who doesn't really notice her.

And in this music video, which is quite iconic,

you can see Taylor Swift sitting on her veil.

And she has a little ugly hair,

that is to say stylish, ugly hair,

and big, a little classic turtleneck glasses.

She has pajamas on and a T-shirt,

where you can see that there is a periodical system on her.

And there she sits and communicates

on some signs through the window with this Naboo drink

that she is in love with.

They have just like a very cute, innocent,

fleeting driving.

And later in the music video,

you can see that this Naboo drink

is in love with a girl from high school

who has long, brown hair.

She goes short down part,

high-stiletto and pink turtleneck,

something like that.

At the end of the music video,

Taylor Swift goes up in a huge white skirt

and looks very innocent.

And she looks like this very popular

girl from the streets of Bane,

and of course Naboo drink,

for the last time.

So it's like an ASCII pot story.

A Hollywood music video.

It will also be the video here,

central in what one might call

the first stage of apology.

She wins a prize under MTV,

but is rejected under her apology.

Taylor Swift, she is called up on stage

and has a long, beautiful, glittering skirt

on red lips.

Hard to look up,

looks very glamorous,

and totally in love with the fact

that she has won this prize.

She goes along with holding her apology

where she also says,

I'm just singing country music,

so this means a lot to me.

The camera looks out in the room

and the camera then comes back

on Taylor Swift.

Then he stands,

suddenly on stage,

and he says that

these are, after all,

quite iconic words.

And what he is talking about here is

that Beyonce at that time

was nominated in the same category

with the music video's single ladies.

And he means that Taylor's victory

was not earned.

And when he is finished with this

stupid speech,

he leaves the stage again,

and Taylor Swift stands back

with the microphone in his hand

and the prize in his hand,

and doesn't say anything,

and the whole room is full of lies.

They don't lie to her,

but they lie to Kanye West.

And she can't really find out

where she has to go.

So it just ends with her being

completely off the stage

and just having stolen this important

eye view.

What does this episode mean

for Taylor Swift?

It starts with a long story

about her,

and Kanye West.

But right in this eye view,

I think it's true

that Taylor Swift,

she wins a lot of sympathy.

I'm going to get to thank the fans.

This is so cool.

Oh, Kanye West is here.

You know,

I'm not going to say

that I wasn't rattled by it,

but I had to perform live

five minutes later.

So I had to get myself back

to the place where I could perform.

I'm not going to say that she's

going to win a lot of sympathy.

That's what I'm saying.

The preparations are more and more

and the media is deeply impressed

by Taylor Swift.

In fact,

her lost love relationship

is a very narrow play.

But the young country singer

doesn't let herself go

on to write.

On the other hand,

in the music,

she leaves instead

traces and elegant references

that are not part of her life anymore.

And that strategy

is still a huge success

for her fans.

There are many who are starting to analyze

such a song as the one called

Style,

whether it should be written

about Harry Styles or her.

There is the song called

Dear John.

It was written to John Mayer.

I see it all now.

It was a run-on.

Don't you think

19 is too young

to be played

by your dark twisted games

when I...

And then there is

a lot of gendery

about her love life.

Are there some of these men

who have been dressed

or criticized before writing

not so subtle songs

about their lost relationship?

Not directly,

because you have never

been able to prove

that this was what they were talking about.

All the speculation

and it is also what

Taylor Swift is so mega good at.

She is good at

creating myths about herself.

After all,

these men begin

to feel more and more

about Taylor Swift.

I don't know

if she changes her strategy,

but she begins

in any case

to give herself

to some very well-known

Venena.

I think a part of it

is about trying

to take a stand

from net-up

with the fact that

she was a man

in there

or she only went up

in romantic relationships.

She tries to show

that female relationships

are mega important to her

and she also tries

to sneak

into some feminist

values

without basing

that I am feminist.

What people

might think

sounds a bit harsh

in this period

is that

all the women

are

completely rich,

completely beautiful,

completely thin

and they might

show a bit

out of the picture

of

whether feminism

is

or who they should be.

She has used

the men of her ex-girlfriends

in her music

and now

the rich, beautiful

Venena in her music.

There is

at least

this song

called Bad Blood

which has

a very big music video.

I love

so take a look

what you've done

cause baby now

we got bad blood.

Hey!

Taylor Swift

she brings

a woman

soldier

who is

one of these girls

from USA.

It is

among other things

Cara Delavine.

The model of Gigi

had

a Selena Gomez

and in the video

they are

wearing some

wild

sci-fi

uniforms

and she is

power

and power.

And I think

Taylor Swift

tries

to say

with this video

she is no longer

a sweet

girl with

a guitar

from Pennsylvania

now she is

this powerful

power

woman

from New York.

It is

economy,

it is money,

it is

Taylor Swift's

many millions

that stream

behind

these people

I don't think

there should be any doubt

that

Lisa

likeable

and close to

a person like

Taylor Swift

can stand up

just as much

as she is

Is it not

hygienic

to be a

woman

the way she

uses these people

Yes it is

but

I think

a large part

of the music

In the same period

Taylor Swift

went from

the nostalgic

universe

of country music

and into

the world of pop

but with

the steady

dream

of course also

criticism

and the

new beat

pop stars

have

in the center

of more public

generations

here

her fight

with

Kanye West

again

completely central

Kanye West

gives a song

called

famous

famous

God damn

I made that bitch famous

It is

a provocative

setting

but it is

creating a

conflict

that

Kanye West

means

that

he has talked

with Taylor Swift

about this song

where she

has given him

promise

to sing

what he does

and that

is Taylor Swift

very very

uneasily

and then

there is

a law

that has

filmed

where she

films

a telephone

call

between

Kanye West

and Taylor Swift

I feel like

me and Taylor

might still

have sex

um

yeah

I mean

it goes

whatever life

better

it's obviously

very tongue-in-cheek

either way

you can hear

that she says

thank you

for your

support

me

and it's just

I feel like

she must be crying

and it just

makes

the sympathy

she had

in the first

conflict with Kanye

disappear a little

so

the critics

are

telling us

what they mean

of this

telephone

conversation

video clip

here

there are

many

who excuse

her for

being

manipulated

and calculated

and who

start to

make

a

video clip

the critics

thought

Taylor Swift

wanted to get

out

they thought

I

don't

like

your little games

in a

large

musical

response

she

introduced

the snake symbol

the critics

had

had

with her

there is

a

dazzling

look

in

what you

made me

do

and

there

is

a

reputation

and

where

she

just

tries to

address

how

people

approach

her

and

how

possible

a

task

is

to

make

all

happy

she

reclaimed

power

and autonomy

over her

own

story

is it

worth it

there was

something

over

in this

very

dark

person

who

suddenly

got on

who

didn't

really

make

I

bought

that

image

shift

at that time

she

can

feel

that

the

difference

between

Democrats

and Republicans

in the USA

is getting

bigger

she

can

see

that

people

that

fall out

for

the

gender

norm

LGBTQ

plus

people

their

position

of

power

gas

is it

risky

for her

I think

she feels

well

great

to be back

at a

shepherd's

dish

there

is

one

situation

that

really

much

her

consciousness

and

it was

in

2003

that

this

country

became

George Bush

at that time

I thought

I'd say

something brand new

and just say

just so you know

we're ashamed

the president

of the United States

is

successful

it

gave

a

huge backlash

from

the

entire

country

the

boycott

the

radio station

and the

boycott

because

they

are

building

something

with

traditional

American

values

and maybe

conservative

ideas

is there

also

an element

in this

that

is

that

it can be

more

risky

not

to

take

political

position

I think

even

it

is

that

the boycott

that

maybe

has

more

progressive

views

than

the

country

world

she was

a part of

before

Taylor Swift

has

this constant

image

of

being

like

others

and

express

maybe

a little

banal

feeling

more

than

everything else

that

you

and others

I think

a part

of

Taylor Swift

or

pop

stars

projects

that

are

as big

as

her

is

that

we

never

really know

it

Taylor Swift

continues

to fight

in

a big

struggle

with Taylor Swift

they

say

autonomy

is a

larger

amount of autonomy

in music

in the whole

when

they

have

the right

to

their music

then

they

go

all the way

to them

or

go

the way

to

a

record company

or

because

the right

he has bought

only

connects to

the specific

recordings

of his song

then he thinks

I make

new recordings

that

I myself

have the right

to

so

she goes

with

like

to

repeat

the whole

old

catalogue

so

close to

the original

so

one that

I

will own

of my

work

and it

will be

a huge success

for her

and it is

something that

has made

the whole

her

background

is

blown up again

how

big

it is

work

has it

been

how

many

plates

and

songs

I can record

albums

all over again

so

I'm very excited about it

because

why is this so

important to you

I think that artists deserve

to own

their work

I just feel very

working

What does this mean, this fight against the people I see on her?

It means a lot to the better, I think, because it has been very clear that it was a saying that was close to her.

And that there was a great uproar behind what she did.

But again, of course, I can turn back to that we never really know what it means,

that this decision of Telosvift has taken home her chair in a crazy moment, or a huge marketing campaign, and it is always a big deal.

Telosvift's new creation is also the foundation for the new, large, complex tour that Telosvift travels around with.

This is a tour where she plays music from the beginning when she was 16 years old.

That type of tour and concerts is only something like Bruce Springsteen, which has been going on for several decades.

But Telosvift has chosen to do it after 15 years in the music industry and at the beginning of her 30s.

Ticketmaster, who sells her tickets, goes completely crazy when the places for her American stadium concerts are set by herself.

And it sets a tight line under her status, as time's greatest pop star.

When the concerts are arranged, I don't think people can really see how big a phenomenon it will actually be.

But what it has shown is that there are things happening to these concerts that affect the world,

without the fact that there are cities if the national product is growing when it comes to the city.

And then it has happened that fans have some codes and certain things they do to the concerts,

which have spread a lot through Serlite TikTok.

And this has also made some of the songs, even though they are old,

but because they have been shown so many times on TikTok, they have started to chart it.

It is certainly this song called Cruel Summer.

There is a bridge where you have to sing along in a certain way.

I don't want to keep secrets just to keep you.

It is something that fans are writing about.

In small scales, it is something that you know at home and people cast a spell on the stage,

like when you are playing the waltz.

It is these things that make you feel like you know how to go to a Taylor Swift concert.

It is a success with a lot of different things.

Among other things, these reenactments and the lengthening of the Errors Tour,

which is later set itself as a living legend.

It is also a symbol of all privileges.

She is beautiful, she is thin, she is rich, she is white.

Is it not also a little bit for the healthy white rich people?

Yes, I think so.

And just as much as I love Taylor Swift,

I think it is a little bit for the poor white rich people.

I don't think so.

And just as much as I love Taylor Swift,

I also think that she discusses her role in pop culture and in the music history.

There is no doubt that she has done a lot of important things,

and extremely powerful things.

hour that she posted, we saw over a thousand percent spike, and that momentum really continued

through the day.

A 72 percent jump in the number of 18-year-olds registering.

I think it will be difficult for her to survive, and the whole time she will be the one who does

well.

I think it will be difficult for her to survive, and the whole time she will be the one who does

well.

She has done something like that, she has paid a huge bonus to the crew on her tour, and

I'm sure she will continue to continue to choose her power and her form in a good way.

But it is clear that people are always sceptical towards those who are powerful.

I think it will be difficult for her to survive, and I think she will continue to do that.

I think it will be difficult for her to survive, and I'm sure she will continue to do it.

And I think she will continue to do that.

Fabrice will be back with me and Ingrid.

To be continued...

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"I don't wanna keep secrets, just to keep you," synger, skriger og græder tusindvis af "Swifties" fans under popstjernes stort anlagte Eras Tour. Gennem sin karriere er Taylor Swift lagt for had og været centrum for store, offentlige skænderier; men har vendt modstanden og brugt den helt aktivt til sin egen fordel. Hun har udfordret nogle af musikbranchens mest magtfulde mænd - en strategi, der nærmest kun har forstærket hendes popularitet. Har Taylor Swifts mange magtkampe kun hjulpet hende på vej til at blive tidens allerstørste popikon? Det mener Sofie Aukdal, skribent på Soundvenue og artist manager hos W.A.S. Entertainment.
Vært: Anna Ingrisch.