The News Agents: Starmer's speech: has he done enough to win a majority?

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So we were all in the hall for Keir Starmer's conference speech and these were the first words we heard

If he thinks that bothers me he doesn't know me

Not Keir Starmer but a protester protesting about democracy

And the person he was trying to interrupt Keir Starmer came out on top

Jack it off sleeves rolled up ready for business saying if you think this is going to put me off

You don't know me

There was quite a lot of glitter

And there was quite a lot of confusion as we saw the protester

Hulled off the stage and out of the room

But in some ways

It couldn't have been a better beginning for the Labour leader. Welcome to the news agents

The news agents

It's John. It's Emily. It's Lewis

And we are still on the stand at the Labour Party conference where Keir Starmer has just finished his speech in the last half hour

there is a buzz around the hall and

Okay disclosure. I thought that this speech would be really Blair right. It's the template to copy Blair one in 97

Why not do something that would be very very much like Tony Blair

This time round and it wasn't it was much more

Felt working class

Aspirational felt like it was a real Labour Party speech

It had that kind of Harold Wilson touch the Labour Party is a moral crusade or it is nothing

And I thought that he really leaned into that

I think that this speech

Crystallized and personified something which has been I think actually quite clear for a while

But which not everyone has twigged on to which is that

Keir Starmer we actually saw in Rachel Reeves's speech to some extent as well yesterday

And his party his Labour Party has got quite a good line

Something that they're very happy with by the way

In sounding less radical than they are and if you look on a whole different variety of

Whether it's particular policy agendas like Great British energy

Which by the way like a public sector energy company operating in the marketplace quite radical

What Rachel Reeves was saying about globalization yesterday quite radical the tone of Starmer

And what he was saying there by comparison certainly to previous Labour Party leaders really

Sitting comfortably talking about class and sitting comfortably

Which is something that his other shadow cabinet ministers do as well by the way

This is actually one of the most class conscious in terms of how they speak

Class conscious shadow cabinets Bridget Phillipson does it? Where's streeting does it?

Rachel Reeves does it that I can remember it is different by comparison to the Blair and Brown years

And they're comfortable with it and they think by the way

Why shouldn't Starmer that Starmer has a good tail to tell in terms of his career on that

It's authentically him and it is a dividing line with Rishi Suno

So they say why not the point is that he

He had the legitimacy to do that because he and many of his shadow cabinet are genuinely working class

Jeremy Corbyn wasn't working class Ed Miliband definitely wasn't working class Gordon Brown wasn't working class

Tony Blair was the least working class Labour leader. We've probably ever seen

So, I mean that takes you back to what the 70s and from that perspective

I think this whole conference has been about about stability and security and not scaring the horses

But the question of class is something that he can sell to that hall

As aspiration and he can sell it

As a vote

For them right you vote for me. I will push the doors open that you want to have open for yourself

I just wonder whether there is a really useful contrast

for Kier Starmer now

When Blair was trying to get Labour elected after so long in the wilderness in 1997

The fact that he had been to fetters college and all the rest of it a private school in Edinburgh

Was really helpful because it made him look reassuringly middle class. We've now got a prime minister worth hundreds of millions of pounds

And Kier Starmer is reassuringly on the side of ordinary people and I think that that contrast probably

Serves him quite well at the moment

I think this is one of the dividing lines that was threaded through the speech and which they want to send out to the wider country

Right, which is this this was a speech which was quite unusual in the sense that

Often these conference speeches are a combination of an address to the hall

Sometimes they're an address to the party

Sometimes they're sort of consciously pitched as a as a speech to the wider country

This in a way was sort of somewhere between the two

It was a pitch to the country, but a specific bit of the country i.e.

Working people to some extent working class people that was the theme that he returned to again and again and again

That's an obvious comparison with sunak. There is another comparison that he was setting up repeatedly

Which is the comparison to not only sunak's speech last week, but the conservative party conference itself

starmer

Consciously throughout was emphasizing the idea of the conservative party conference being

Crankish using the language of talking it saying that it was riddled with conspiracy theories

And the idea that sunak was only talking not only to himself

But to his class there was this bit of the speech that I thought was particularly striking

Where he was saying it's not so much that sunak

Is lying to you. It's more that he doesn't understand what he's saying. He doesn't the walls of westminster were very high

Exactly the walls of westminster really striking phrase the walls of westminster are too high

That he can't see and that they can't see the true state of how they are and what they're in

So setting himself up in a way

Even though in so many ways he kind of personifies the british state as the outsider looking in

I also thought there was quite an interesting line where he talked about

How much the state would intervene and this is a big question. We were hearing it

Being asked, you know on the airwaves quite a lot. Oh, you seem to want to be interventionist. Oh, does that mean that the state's going to get

Much bigger in people's lives and his response to that is politics should tread lightly on people's lives

But it should allow people to have the freedoms to afford the things that they are now telling us

They can't afford the little things that make your life better

And it was interesting that that got a really big round of applause when he was talking about

People going around the supermarket picking up the trees and then putting it back because they couldn't quite afford it

And for me, it spoke to a kind of it was the injection of hope

Actually, and it was the injection of you don't have to ask that much

You don't have to ask that much will take care of the big things and you get to have your freedoms

And you contrast it with let's just bring in old penny for a second

But penny wanted everyone to stand up and fight

Suella wanted everyone to

Fuck off back home

I mean to put it, you know, mildly

And Rishi Sunak didn't seem to find the note of optimism at all in his speech

And I thought there was something in Keir Starmer

That didn't mention sunlit uplands or any sort of

Kind of terribly sort of conservative phrase, but did speak to something that was

I suppose injecting a bit of sunlight there actually

Well, it was also talking about building. There were lots of talk about building throughout and you know the one thing that frankly

I'm tempted to invest in when I get home tonight is the shovel industry because we've had Keir Starmer talking about shovels in the ground

We had Rishi Sunak last week speaking about shovels in the ground. It must be a great time to buy shovels

But who do you think's here? I mean all the businesses are here because they see that there is massive amounts of money coming from labor investment

Right. I was at a do last night. There was someone from anglo-american mining said he'd never been to a party conference

His company had never been to a party conference before and they are interested in being here because they sense that labor is changing

We met someone Emily this morning at breakfast

Who's in the shadow cabinet who's going to play a key role in kind of a lot of this who talked about the key thing for labor

Is to offer reassurance

And I think that Keir Starmer was trying to do that when he said to understand that private enterprises the only way this country pays its way

In the world he then went on to add a list of caveats of you know

Some unacceptable bits of capitalism, but I think that there is a reassurance thread running through it

And I also think that actually it was interesting him talking about the historical arc of the purpose of labor governments

Long-term solutions are not oven ready

If you think our job in 1997 was to rebuild a crumbling public realm

But in 1964 it was to modernize an economy left behind by the pace of technology

That in 1945 to build a new Britain out of the trauma of collective sacrifice

Then in 2024 it will have to be all three

Interesting isn't it that he as it were pays tribute to

past labor revolutions in that bit of the speech if you compare that to Rishi Sunak who tried to

Pretend that he was the change candidate and actually essentially slagged off everyone

Since that year and that's been quite a lot of Tory prime ministers

It's a very different way of looking at heritage

Funnily enough, which is laborers building on something that they're proud of in this speech and Rishi Sunak

Who's so desperate to be the change candidate has to go forget about the letters forget about the party gate

It raised the last 30 years. I mean it raised your major

It raised David Cameron all of them. Bye. Bye. You didn't exist

extraordinary

There was another passage in the speech that I thought was

Interesting because of just the gravity of the situation at the moment and that is of course

What has unfolded in Israel and the horrible massacre that has taken place of women children concert goers at a peace festival

I mean unspeakable things and I was struck by you know

It was only a few years ago that this audience was giving a standing ovation to Jeremy Corbyn

whose views on Israel and Hamas are

not exactly the same as

Kirstahmer's and Kirstahmer kind of ended a parloration saying that you know

Palestinian states should live alongside a safe and secure Israel

But this action by Hamas does nothing for Palestinians and Israel must always have the right to defend her people

At which point there is a standing ovation and I was kind of thinking I wonder which way the conference could go

And it absolutely went for israel's right to self-defense

I was sitting next to a journalist from jewish news

And he was slightly disappointed that there hadn't been a bit more in the speech

It was a bit more fulsome

But I think because we got advanced copy to actually have a look at the words as soon as it hit the floor though

You saw that everyone in the hall except for the press gallery was on their feet for that

And that was the moment where you suddenly realized that this was a very changed party

Look one of the bits of sort of pre-spin that some of the sort of labor spinners were giving out before the speech

Is you're going to see in this that this is Kia's party now and there could not have been a better

Crystallization of that theme than that moment for that simple reason

I was there in the hall for every single one of the Corbyn speeches and during the Corbyn years of every conference

There is no way that

Any point in those years that any shadow minister I think pretty much

Particularly in the latter period would have made that statement from the stand and had they done so

There is no way that they would have emerged without being heckled or without there being

Disruption from within the fact that there wasn't

Is everything that

People around starma could have hoped for and asked for in sending an implicit indeed some some explicit message

That this is a different party and in a way I mean I was talking to a lot of sort of people around starma last night

They were sort of

Even handed about the sort of the overall theme of the week because of course they are very much aware

That in terms of news eyes global eyes even british eyes. It hasn't been in Liverpool this week

It's been elsewhere

It has been on the events that have been unfolding in Gaza and israel

And there's a sort of double edgedness if you like to that

One is that it does mean and there is some concern about this that this is one of the principal moments in the calendar

Where the leader of the opposition unlike the prime minister you can get a microphone whenever you like

When the leader of the opposition can really set out their pitch

But then on the other hand the very fact that this week has gone off without incidents

The very fact that it has been completely disruption free apart from one moment

That perhaps we might talk about in a minute with regards to what happened on stage with starma

The fact that it has been completely disruption free on an issue like israel and palestine which just a few years ago was

For good or ill the central the central fishes of the labour party that sent all the messages that they need

Well, let's talk about the security moment because the three of us were at the tories last week and obviously here we are

In livable this week last week in manchester

Anytime we went into the conference centre

We went through a kind of airport style scanner thanks ages to see if you've got anything metallic in your pockets

There has been nothing of that nature

This week in livable you can walk into the hall if you're not carrying a bag

All you have to do is show your badge and you walk in so there's it doesn't make any difference though

I mean that's the point it doesn't make any difference what you have in your bag because

I mean nobody would have taken out a pot of glitter

I'm guessing if I'd had that in my bag and actually the point is that that protester

He was accredited. Yeah, but yeah, but starma could have been dead. I mean, I know

You could have carried a knife or a gun it but exactly

That's the point that you're not being searched and I'm just I

Given that we are so close to an election

Given the state of security and learners like look not my job to make the security awareness

But I'm surprised there was such a gap in the security arrangement for the tories which was far greater

And so lax it seems for labour and the fact that the sky was on stage for 12 seconds

When there are special branch close protection officers all around and not interrupting was amazing

Just on that point of the protester and it's quite interesting. I don't know if you two are the same

We were all sitting different places. I thought that was an anti-israel protester. That was what I thought at the beginning

I thought just stop oil

Okay, so it's interesting because I heard the hall gasp and I thought it was because they were both worried about

Kirstarmer physically but also worried that this was going to derail

their whole positioning of the party and I think when they realized that he was a

Pro demoxy or a PR or whatever. I think there was a kind of breath of

Release, you know that went across the hall, which is like, okay, we've got this and then it allowed Kirstarmer to set up a very good line

Which is you can have protests we prefer power and that was how we dealt with it

So, you know, I'm not being conspiracy there is about this at all

But it couldn't actually have started things off better for Kirstarmer in any other way

Oh, look, he took off his jacket. I think the again the spinners will be happy that he actually appears sort of very workman-like

And he's rolling up his sleeves and he sort of dealt with it. Well, but look, we should never forget

Since 2016 we've had two MPs murdered in this country

It's the lead opposition the guy who's likely to be prime minister and there will be serious questions rightly about security

Ab kamerman rory simon who was right close. We got some amazing footage which you can see on news agents socials

We counted it took 12 seconds for the guy to be dragged away

I mean, yeah, he could have but the equivalent is what happened in suella's speech last week

Where a guy literally sort of muttered something under his breath and he was hauled out

And you're like, that's not a great look for a party either

But in terms of the contrast as well, it's easy to forget now

Again, I was at the starmer speech his first speeches leader conference speeches leader in the hall

So that would have been in 2021 so two years ago

The guy couldn't get through the speech without being slow hand-clapped

Without there being protest after protest from the conference floor

From the Corbyn wing of the party, right fast forward two years only two years

And we are in a situation where starmer can say a statement like that about israeli guards

It can get through to complete acclamation for within the hall. The spinners were right. It is his party

We were having breakfast this morning with somebody who talked about kristam's decision-making process

And he said if I take you back to the outbreak of the ukraine war february a year ago

Five of his mps had signed a stop the war

Statement against britain's sort of response to ukraine and the russian invasion and kristam apparently

Just turned around and said right you get your names off that list or you get your names off

The label list of being an mp and within an hour. They'd all taken the names off the list

So he was trying to explain that

Kirstam attends to make decisions quite carefully with consideration

But once he's done that that's it and that's I think what he's clearly done with the party in two years

Yeah, I mean decision-making and also the impression was given to us that he's not afraid to roll a dice at times with taking

Big risks on big decisions

But as you say he had the hall in the palm of his hand this afternoon and he brought the speech to a powerful end

A plan to turn the page and say in a cry of defiance to all those who now write our country off

Britain must Britain can Britain will get its future back. Thank you conference

Thank you

Thank you conference

Well, we will be back after the break with the shadow home secretary Ivette Cooper

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Well joining us just slipping into our studio here is the shadow home secretary Ivette Cooper

I think we should start a bit by just talking about the first

10 seconds actually of what happened on stage with Kirstam

It's a long time for a protester to actually be up there with a man who hopes to be

Britain's prime minister

What's clear is that that protest didn't phase Kirstam or in the slightest and he went on to give this incredibly really powerful

Speech and the thing about protesters is he had that huge

I mean contempt

From the whole hall towards that but what they want to do is they want to distract us

They want to get us talking about their protest rather than actually about the speech and so

But the whole got on with it and went you know went forward with a really important speech about the future of our country

Of course, but there's a serious security matter that someone was able to get up there and be up there for so long

I'm sure all that we dealt with but you know in the end

This was a really important speech and I would actually care to make that point that this is not a party of protests

This is a party of power the party that is

Wants to be the next government the Labour Party has changed

Kirstam has changed the Labour Party and his what he was talking about today

Was how he's going to change the country you've lost a Labour MP

I mean we remember that really clearly and the Conservatives have lost a Conservative MP in the last two years. I mean

Just going back to that question of security

Do you worry about your colleagues? Do you worry that this stuff is getting

Getting more scary actually

So if you're thinking that they're just the wider issues about some of those security issues safety issues

And obviously there are always there are there are security checks at conferences. There are security checks around parliament

there is security advice that you get and

There's always that issue about how you make sure that all of us take those

security issues seriously and also carry on with our lives in our local communities because

When you're an MP you're part of your local community and you know

I'll pop into Casper town centre every Friday to go and get my sandwich and a cup of tea and a cup of coffee

And and you're chatting to people and that is really important part of what all of us do

As MPs

You think of it as part of so important about what you do as journalists that you will go around and talk to people

But your faces are recognised and and so on so

That is a balance. I think for everybody

In fact, can I talk to you about another issue which is central to your brief which is about

immigration asylum small boats all the rest of it

Not a mention of it in the speech

Well, I talked a lot about it this morning as part of I talked a lot about this morning in my speech

And we're you know, all of us are making shadow cabinet speeches all the time

And as you know

Kia went to Europol to talk to police forces about what we need to do to go after the criminal gangs

He's done a whole series of interviews on this and talked about this

So this is really important part of the things that he's been doing

But there is a central charge that Labour does not take this issue seriously enough

That it isn't really concerned about the small boats arriving

And then you get a speech from the leader going over 16 pages and not a single mention of it

So I disagree with that because what he set out today was the five missions and the different areas

But as he said many times before the missions are of course based on having that platform of security that includes secure borders

So the things I was talking about this morning was about how we need to tackle these dangerous boat crossings that are putting lives at risk

But are also undermining our border security

You've seen a massive growth in criminal gangs over the last few years

As a result operating along our borders and the government the conservative government has just let that happen

Prosecutions of people smugglers has plummeted. That is not cracking down on the criminal gangs

So Labour has set out a plan to go after the criminal gangs to take that incredibly seriously

And it's the thing that that kia was talking about was you've got to go after the supply chains

You've got to go after the money to stop the boats reaching the french coast in the first place

We've set out plans to do that. We've set out plans to end asylum hotel use and that frankly would save two billion pounds as well

But you know what kia was also then talking about today was this 10-year vision of national renewal

You know giving britain its future back and you know god we need that right now after the 13 years we've had and after the chaos

not just

the Tories in Manchester last week, but the chaos of

five Tory prime ministers in seven years and

You know the mess the crisis in cost of living the pressures that are facing families across the country

there is an unspoken ghost at this conference and it's the ghost of all those people who think that

kia's time was leading the polls now

But actually there's a big gap between can he maybe get to a premiership and can labour get a majority?

And that gap seems to be

Where everyone is focused right now that yes, you might have found the place that people

Really pissed off for the conservative government right now, but they're not in love with labour

so

Kid the work that kia's done. I think has changed the labour party and we've seen that I mean, you know, this is

That's huge difference. That's huge difference and it was substantial work

And I think what he was setting out today was his plan for changing the country and was a vision for the future

It's been a huge amount of work

It's

Setting out why you need to get economic growth and get our economy back on track after the damage the government's done

How you need to renew our public services?

Including our NHS for people who can't get dentist appointments and to get make sure our streets are safe

So you get the neighborhood police back in our communities

And that difference I think as well of values

And he was talking about the fair deal for working people being part of growing our economy

So dealing with the zero hours contracts and the fire and rehire contracts that is part of

Growing our economy rather than pitted against economic growth

Which is the approach the conservatives have taken where we obviously have had unfunded tax cuts for the richest people in the country

Well that ended up

Crushing the economy putting it into crisis

So would you say this was an appeal to working class Britain?

Is that who he was trying to talk to today because

He did he did go on about class a lot

I think it was a pitch the whole country because it's talking about how we bring the country together

You're right. He was talking about his working class background about the

You know

Family members about the pressures that people feel under and about the aspirations that people have and

The fact that so many young people cannot afford a home

So there's parents who are going to be worrying that their kids are going to be living with them forever

Because they can't afford to get a home of their own

There's you know people worried that they can't

Get the job or the training that they need

So he's talking about technical excellence colleges to properly value and boost the

High-skilled technical education we need for the green jobs of the future the jobs apprenticeships

On clean energy on all of those things so

I think it was definitely an aspirational speech that reflected his background his personal background

And I think I think it was it was a speech for everyone

But you're right. It was strongly as part of that was recognizing the real pressures on working people

What do you think still needs to be done between now and whenever the general election is called?

What is what is there that still needs to be achieved that you don't think is a done deal yet?

I think we have to earn every vote

And that means working immensely hard. It means talking about the things people are really worried about

Listening to people about the things that they're worried about

It does feel like the country is broken at the moment. It does feel like public services are broken

There's people feel like they can't afford to be optimistic about their own future about their kids future because they feel so insecure

So we've got to be able to show how labor can restore that sense of security for people

In their own jobs in their finances in in their kids future as well and also the sense of security on the streets

So all of this isn't going to be the debates we will have on the doorstep

In countless streets and towns and cities right across the country

And we know that that is hard work that that is work that

You know kia you'll see he works incredibly hard every single day that he's determined to do and all of us are determined to do

Because I think there's so much at stake. We've had just 13 years and the prospect of five more years of

hugely damaging conservative government

I think would be devastating for the country just before we let you go on a completely different subject and obviously

Conference has been very dominated by the tragic events in israel. Yeah, there is a discussion right now

Within the eu particularly about funding to gaza

Do you want to see that funding stopped? Is that helpful?

Do you believe that the funding that is going is funding terrorism or is it helping palestinian people who live there?

So I don't know the details of that discussion that's taking place

What I say is this has been a devastating terrorist attack by hamas and we've seen

young people killed at a music festival and families targeted in their own homes

and

I mean israel has the right to defend itself and to try and secure the release of those hostages as well

And it's devastating. It's this sets back the cause of peace as well. This is in terms of money for everyone

Money into that region should stop

I don't know. I think this is a live situation at the moment

So I'm sure lots of discussions will be taking place

But I think the the important thing is we do stand with israel in solidarity with israel in the face of a terrible terrorist attack

And and I think all of us will probably just be really worried about how all of this is going to unfold because you know

We have supported and believe in still a two-state solution to have

peace in the Middle East

But that has been so massively set back by these awful terrorist attacks. Yvette Cooper. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me

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It's the end of

Westminster conference season anyway. I mean the look the labour conference has clearly been that they're happy with it

They think it's been a success

They haven't had perhaps as much coverage as they would like for the reasons I was saying before

But there is an awareness and there is a sort of slightly wider sense

Which you've heard a lot in all the sort of fringes in the bars that somehow actually this is a party

Which has almost been behaving like it's in government and last week was a party which was already behaving like it's in opposition

Which has some real truth to it. There is also an awareness. I was talking to someone a closest army yesterday

They are happy with how things have gone

I don't think they underestimate for a moment the scale of the challenge still to come

You know all the comparisons with 96 and so on

They're aware that the press are still not rowing in behind them as they do behind Blair and they don't expect them to

They expect that torrent on starmas record as dpp to come that cchq has got all of that in their back pocket

And they're also actually aware that although suenax part of suenax speech last week has already unraveled with hs2

They are aware of the dividing lines that he was creating and is creating and the potential potency around that

Particularly on drivers particularly on the environment and so on and they're not afraid of it

But I think the way that they would pull it that they are wary that although it is triumphalist here

This is a this is a party which thinks firmly that they are hiding back to government people around starma

They are pretty war weary and then they know there's a huge challenge still to come

There was something else that was said to us by someone we bumped into

Which is that actually all these comparisons are made between Blair and 96 97 and he had all these shiny bright new offerings

Actually, didn't no Blair was just as cautious

Just as wary

Are people saying oh, it's not exciting enough even in 95 96

I mean Blair was shiny and sparkly and a kind of perfect

Sparkly as well. Yeah

Yeah, she's sparkly

Exactly

But but I think that you know the comparison

They would say labor weren't that exciting new labor was not that exciting in the 1990s. They were very cautious

They were very wary and Kirstama is no different today

And that is exactly what again the same person was saying to me yesterday the thing that is never said have we been meeting the same person?

I probably probably was one

We just speak the news as you speak to the thing that people never remember is that it's all very well being exciting

But Corbyn was exciting and you can scare you scare as many people as you attract and no one ever remembers that

Part of the task here is not necessarily to get Tories to vote labor

It's to get to them to stay at home and not feel like they have to vote for soon

Two things I'd say one is

There were a lot of standing evations in that room now. Maybe you'd say well, you know, big surprise

It's the labor leader. It's the kind of highlight of the conference

But the things that people were standing for are his ability to remind them of everything they hate

So he mentions party gate vomit on the walls wine on the walls and the cleaners that brought it down

He mentions the bonuses for the water company bosses when they're pumping sewage into our rivers and

Going back to the walls of westminster this idea

I think his line was Rishi Sunak and the shallow men and women of westminster

There is a lot of capital that Kirstama is making just from reminding people of all the things that they have really

desperately fallen out of love with

Over the last few years particularly party gate particularly egregious acts of carelessness

But I think when he talked and he repeated this about his mission of national renewal make no mistake

What he's kind of saying is there'll be stuff in here that you don't particularly like and it's going to be quite hard

And quite painful and it's probably going to include private money

And it's probably going to include private financing of the health care system. We started talking about reform

And Jerusalem is not going to be built in one year. It's going to be built in 10

He already mentioned

Didn't he he already mentioned a decade and I thought oh, that's a man who's pitching for two terms

Straight away before we go. We should say favorite stand of the party conference season

Oh good. All he's asking this because he's obviously got one. I've got the national farmers union

What's it because they give out free cheese all the girls at the national farmers union

They give out all the free cheese love it mature west country summer set cheddar

I've just been having if you were a cheese john, that would be you I think in so many ways

Okay, my I'm just going to give you my favorite bit of insider info. Oh, you've been keeping it till now

I have okay because I was told this morning

That the leader of the opposition the tension is almost palpable here called down to room service for his breakfast

And demanded a jug of pineapple juice

Very good

Is that what we've got?

All the president's women here all the president's pineapple juice exactly

It's very good to your voice

It's very good anti-flammetry and that was what the labour leader needed to get up on an anti-inflammatory

Right, okay, I suppose in a way that is kind of him. Stammer isn't anti-inflammatory

It's not quite the break in at the watergate. Is it like that's next week

I don't think you understood the full scale of what I was going. Yeah pineapple juice gate. Thank you. I rest my case

You're just jealous. You're all jealous. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye

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The News Agents at the Labour Party Conference: Day 2

If Sir Keir Starmer was looking for a bit of sparkle today in his Leader's speech he shouldn’t have worried: it came to find him in the shape of a glitter-throwing protestor before he’d had the chance to say a word.

Undeterred, he took to shirt sleeves and spelled out a working class mantra of aspiration and renewal for a country on its knees. Was it enough?

Editor: Tom Hughes

Senior Producer: Gabriel Radus

Producer: Laura FitzPatrick

Planning Producer: Alex Barnett

Social Media Editor: Georgia Foxwell

Video Producer: Rory Symon

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