de volksjury: Aflevering 108 - jullie verhalen (deel 1)

de volksjury de volksjury 3/30/23 - 1h 15m - PDF Transcript

Welcome to episode 108 of The Volksjurie.

We are Laura and Silke. Barely alive.

I really feel like there's a truck driving over me.

Thank you for the summer time.

Is that the only reason you've played several live shows?

It's a welcome factor, let me put it that way.

It's been great last week, but I'm really broken.

I'm really broken, too.

When I was training, I was thinking, wow, Mart is almost done.

I have seven memories of Mart, and that's seven live shows.

One of them is not Mart.

No, I'm not Mart.

I was thinking, indeed, we're already in April,

what have I done in the past weeks, and the only thing I've done

are the live shows, or I've been working on them.

And for the rest of the week, it's a small step,

but I think I was late because I had to prepare, or I was just too tired,

so I don't have any more memories.

Our live shows, that's something in our heads.

Yes, and great, too.

Man, this is so cool.

Yes, it has exceeded all my expectations.

Yes, you're the best.

Yes, yes, yes.

You're so enthusiastic.

Very often we hear behind the scenes of,

oh my, what was that?

In the positive scene.

In the positive scene.

I saw this weekend a friend who was passing by in Deuven,

at the depot where you were waiting for a long drive to go inside,

and he really looked for Miley Cyrus Leuven.

Because he really thought,

he's programmed something difficult,

that it's too big for the depot.

Yes, look, we were in the sorry Leuven.

No, thank you Leuven, you mean.

Yes, but just thank you to all the cities where we've been so far,

and also to everyone who has gone from the one side of the Netherlands or Belgium

to the other side to be able to join us.

You're really amazing.

We're so happy that we can do this.

Yes, we still have one more to go at this moment.

High expectations for Aalst.

Yes, Aalst, come on.

Aalst represent, come on guys.

No, there's still one more,

but I'm really going to fall into a black hole,

because I just think it's so cool to get a direct response to what we're saying.

Here we're just sitting with us two,

and we don't know what people like, like, or like.

And we have a lot of people who laugh and say,

oh, yes, yes, yes.

And that's really amazing,

because we also had that feeling,

or those emotions, when we were doing research or something.

Or you start building up at that moment

and you hope that people do,

and that happens, because sometimes not, but well.

Yes, it's so clear,

oh yes, those things are funny, but you're not.

Okay, noted.

As long as I have my own pleasure.

No, I mean, if I want to do something, you have to laugh.

And then you see it as the only direction to laugh at me,

and then it's all the same.

No, no, no, I think that,

look, as long as we have pride,

the people also have pride.

No, I think we've shortened ourselves.

It's really all super good what we're doing.

No, so who knows?

We're going to do something else.

And the only thing we can say about that is,

write to us in our newsletter,

that's really the way to go,

to get an update,

to avoid emails,

like after our first book,

when comes book two.

We're not going to tour the second time next week.

FYI, that's going to take a while.

It's not for this year.

Not for this year.

No, but we're going to do something else.

We're going to do something super fun.

We're asked to give a show at the Northland Festival.

That's not a live show,

let's be clear about that.

Because we could just do so much more.

So we were ready, ready to go.

We're going to be there on Sunday, May 28.

And we've put together a sort of talk show.

Yes, guests come to visit us.

We have four segments that we're going to do.

We're going to have dinner at the fucking Made & Larve.

All of our favorite subjects.

We're going to talk about it.

And what else do we have?

A fun detector test.

It's going to happen.

Yes, a lot of fun.

Very exciting, a lot of fun.

A bit different, but also very familiar.

These are a number of experts

that you already know from books.

So that's fun.

Yes, that's why this time it's also about the word.

So now most of you have just read it.

But now they come to live as it were.

Yes, and we're also going to do some activities.

A couple of fun activities.

A couple of fun activities.

So yes, if you're triggered, come.

Yes, certainly.

You can order tickets via nerdlandfestival.be.

So we're coming on Sunday, May 28.

Personally, I would like to come there.

We're going to look at the program.

And it looks amazing.

I think you're going to learn a lot.

That's also the reason why we ask experts more on the podium.

Because we're a bit shy about the level of the audience.

And we're like, we're not going to do that.

We're going to a few doctors.

And...

Slim people on the podium.

But it's going to be super fun.

So that's the first thing we're going to do.

Yes, but you'll find all the information on our socials

or on the socials of nerdlandfestival.

Very nice.

I still have a cat story.

It's been a long time.

Is it annoying?

Didn't you say that to me because you thought that you could take it with you?

No, no, no, no.

I get it.

But you have to sweat a bit, guys.

Sometimes that thing disappears for me.

And then it comes out.

And then I find it even more annoying that I don't stop there.

Maybe I'm going to regret that I didn't do it earlier.

But it's okay.

I'll leave it on the back of that word.

Do you remember a few episodes ago

when I went to the helicopter to see Lucy in a tree?

You remember?

Well, a few weeks ago

I wanted to call all the cats inside.

There are a lot of them.

As you know, the Satur always says that everyone is inside.

It's a full time.

Yes, true.

Lucy doesn't have any tracks.

She says, where are you going now?

And suddenly I hear a few more sounds.

Bluff and stumbling.

And I think, hmm,

that's a really big chance that you have something to do with Lucy.

And we can look through a hole in the surroundings.

And suddenly there's the neighbouring woman

from two houses further.

And she's like, is that your poo here?

And I'm like, I don't know.

To write the poo.

She's sitting here in the tree.

The tree is four meters high.

No, that's not true.

And I was like, oh my god.

But it was already 9.30 in the evening.

And I was like, okay.

And I went to that garden,

to the neighbouring woman.

I was like, sorry, but what are we going to do?

Because she was in the tree.

So I called the cats inside.

Her dog was also outside.

And she saw Lucy.

And she walked behind her.

And Lucy was in the tree.

But I don't exaggerate

when I say it's four meters high.

I'll have to lie down.

And I was like,

is this the moment we have to call the fire brigade?

Are we...

Are we here?

Are we such bad parents?

But the neighbouring woman said, wait.

I have a ladder here that can enter the tree so high.

So that ladder against the tree.

I was the first one to enter the tree.

But Lucy didn't move.

She was quite chill.

She wasn't afraid or anything.

But she refused to come down.

I was like, great.

And I was up there all the time.

In the tree.

And I thought, I still have to do six live shows.

So please don't fall down.

But don't move.

You have the neighbouring woman back in the tree.

And she finally got it.

When she got it.

But it was so...

It was so frustrating.

But she didn't hold it back.

So she had to climb up against the tree.

She had to climb up against the tree.

And then I thought, oh my god.

I have to tell this to Clara.

But you know what?

With Lucy,

her character is also...

She does it first and then she thinks...

Absolutely.

She's really...

I had her character in it.

But that's how she is.

Alma would never have it in front of her.

Joost might still be Roekeloos.

And Joost...

That guy.

Roekeloos is a guy.

But when you're afraid,

sometimes a panic reaction.

You do stupid things.

It's fight, flee or freeze.

And she chose flee.

The hoax.

My hoax.

But 4 meters.

I thought this would never work.

But it took an hour.

And what kind of dog is it?

It's a sheepherder.

A Border Collie, is that it?

Yes.

So she runs after the cats.

And the neighbors are like,

sorry, sorry, sorry.

I can't do anything.

She's probably sitting in the garden.

She lets the door open.

She's super attentive to the cats at night.

She would walk in.

And the moment I called,

she probably came out of the garden.

Did the dog get her spot?

It was pure chaos.

Together with circumstances.

I mean, it's also my question

that she was with the cats.

And she's not here.

So I thought, I'll give you an update.

A small update.

All right, from Pouss naar Mol.

Yes, perfect.

Finally.

We're on episode 2.

We've already seen a lot.

We've already discussed a lot with each other.

We're a bit on the same page.

We're still spreading it.

For episode 5, I'm still spreading it.

I have to say,

I've shared that on Stories,

but I know one of the candidates.

How amazing is that?

Toes.

And I have We Go Way Back.

Together with Scouts.

We've made Alba.

And what is your

perception of Toes?

Well, I know him very well.

He's been the roommate of my brother.

I've seen him in all possible

circumstances of his life.

And he's seen me.

And I have to say, in episode 1,

I thought, he's different.

Toes is really...

Oh, that's going to make sense,

of course, but not too much.

Not in the wrong sense,

but Toes is a center of attention.

He's very spontaneous.

Very spontaneous.

Always happy.

He's always the funny guy of the group.

That's someone you don't forget.

And I had the feeling in episode 2,

that the other candidates already said

things like that about him.

But that he hasn't really been there yet.

I thought,

I already had more jokes

from him.

And do you think

he has a chance

to be the mole?

Toes, from the beginning,

someone who

can mask the truth

with a smile.

I think he knows

incredibly good people.

And that he can act

very well.

I think so.

And yes,

the thing is,

I call it a tunnel vision,

but I see things where I think,

oh, you sneaky mole.

I already know.

The thing is, we talked about it,

and you also said things like that,

that you really are a mole.

The potato.

In episode 2,

he goes to the different potatoes

before someone can say something

and we didn't think about it.

Could those different potatoes

serve for something else?

Or why are they here?

Well, of course,

he has to go fast.

Toes, I also have an advice.

I was really used to it.

You have it fixed every day.

And it runs,

because comfort is also there.

I expected more from Toes.

That's what you actually said.

So, the thing is,

of course, I always like my mole,

because it's something fun.

And for the rest,

there are now two names in my head,

and they are Thomas.

The Aardrex teacher.

Because he hasn't been so much in the picture yet, right?

Yes, pure theory of not being much in the picture,

always in the neighborhood, if there is money lost.

Yes, just like that.

I don't know.

I also can't get a clue

of his character.

No, indeed.

I already have a picture,

except for Thomas.

But maybe he can also just be

as a person.

And for me it's number 3.

At the first episode,

I was at Cogni.

But then I thought,

maybe it's a bit too fast.

If I got too much in the picture.

But now I also choose Lot.

That's my number 2.

And the thing is,

after I looked at the café de Mol,

Samia came along,

and she said,

I might not have spread enough.

And at the moment I was out,

I decided that I knew

who the Mol was.

And I think that she,

when she realized,

that's her current theory,

when Lise Lot is the Mol,

I thought,

what's going on with Lise Lot,

she just let me go.

Yes, because I would

think that the Mol

couldn't have played the first episode.

That's why it wasn't suspected.

Also because the viewers weren't suspected.

Because she couldn't have

played the first episode.

But she did experience the test.

Wow, but it can also be

because she's the Mol.

That's what she stayed in.

And I think it's cool

to put the Mol

in that position,

that she doesn't play the first episode

because she doesn't know

who's going to play the first episode.

Yes, or she just had

three months of training

on shooting a mirror,

and the test was just better.

Yes, yes, yes, that's possible.

And they might want to say,

I just want to play the first episode,

then they think I'm very competitive.

As Mol.

And then most likely,

or at least,

both of them can.

Especially one episode,

one and a half episodes, as few as possible, Mol.

Yes, I'm now very focused

on if the tests

have to be shared,

who's going to play the first episode

and what's the most

interesting position.

I never did that last year.

I was really angry at myself.

But now I'm trying to see

something more there.

And I think that Lise Lotte

also has an interesting position

to sit.

The potatoes are also different,

because after five seconds a potato is thrown.

And then they go, oh, oh, oh, I threw that potato.

Yes indeed.

So I thought,

but as for everyone,

of course, to say something,

I have one more question for you,

Matteo Simoni, what did you think of it?

Yes, I thought it was very good.

I thought it was very good.

I'm going to say,

I don't think there are many other BVs

but I still thought it was

very good.

Or such a Frank Fockethein.

But then it stopped.

It really had to be

a kind of sumum for me

to be an actor.

I think Matteo is a public

lover.

That was not given

by Vlaanderen, I think,

because of me.

I love him.

But I think Matteo made the right choice.

Personally,

as a TV maker,

as a job,

I annulled that screen.

I had Matteo in it

productionally,

certainly three episodes.

Yes, but that's the game.

I know, and that's what the makers really are.

I can't say, oh, I'm sorry,

because I had given a different screen.

Just for the jolly,

because now the thing is,

you take the analysis notes out

and you can never do it again.

No, but in the same screen,

oh, the mole hasn't been chosen yet.

And they always try

to make the first episode special.

And now it seems like

it's a stunt for one episode.

And now we're back.

But the makers can't do anything about it,

because Matteo is a testigo.

No, but I know that.

But I had that as a maker until

episode three,

when everyone wanted the mat.

Dennis Black magic vibe, I think.

I want one more thing,

and that's my only point of criticism.

Matteo is such a chameleon

that he can put such a character down.

Well, heavy bust.

On the character of Steve.

I was really like,

you can use, you can dye your hair,

you can do your hair.

I want to say, it wasn't for the whole series.

It was just for that day

that he had to

dye his hair.

I understand that he is Limburgs,

but I think

he had to do something more for me.

I also thought that he gave it up quickly.

Yes.

I would have said that,

but no, just keep it up.

But yeah, look.

It was funny with Matteo.

I laughed, Steve was a good name.

Yes, yes, yes.

Yes, I look at this.

I think it's a very nice group.

Well, it's really from the moment

I met this great group

and also the first time

that I know who who is after an episode.

Normally, I need two or three episodes.

Or it's really

when the group is done,

I can really say, okay, that's it, that's it, that's it.

And now really from episode 1

I was like, okay, I know who everyone is.

Yes, very nice group, well done.

Yes, very cool.

Very diverse group.

Yes, very nice.

If comfort is studied.

There are both gynecology and jet,

but I also hear you in short.

I'm going to do patient mistle.

I know, I have to have her.

I really think, yes,

I'm in love with everyone a little bit.

Yes, yes, it's really nice.

No, it's really a very, very good group,

great group.

I'm really curious what there is still.

So let's now end on Lieselot,

Thos and Thomas.

And Thomas.

Yes, just also FYI guys,

maybe you know that because this is in the title,

but we have also made a call for your stories.

You were with too much.

So we're going to spread this about two episodes,

and we're taking that after each other.

So in the next episode there is no mole update.

So we're really going to see

how we're going to see the finals.

Yes, but you know,

I always try to look at the live and

more on the grams to make some jokes.

That will be a pressure.

So yes, that's it.

If one of our moles falls,

then we'll wipe it off.

Then we'll put online who our new moles are.

Yes, that's good.

Do you have any tips?

Ah, look, I also had the same question.

Yes, I have a tip.

On Disney Plus the documentary

Stolen Youth

Inside the Cult at Sarah Lawrence.

And oh my god,

my mouth is more normal

while looking at it,

because that documentary series

actually starts at a university,

at a campus.

People are there together,

and at some point one of the parents

comes from there,

one of the students lives there,

and it goes wrong from there.

And it's such a wonderful insight

into how people

can influence a group

by one person.

There is no mole in it,

let me say that clearly.

I've never heard of a podcast.

Yes, but it is

it is amazing.

It really feels

so much to be involved

with the people who participated.

Because there are people who

just started studying.

A year after you said that,

people have lost their lives for years.

Really a very good advice to look at.

I start to realize more and more

that the ten years

are not so problematic,

but it is the period from 18 to 23

where you are already

in your childhood.

Because no one can help you

if you say no, you don't have to help me,

no one can do anything.

And mentally you are really a baby.

They are really very difficult years.

I realize now that it is such a

difficult, twisted period

that you are now living.

Yes, because you start on a new path

in a environment where you don't know

anyone,

but you actually trust the people

who are standing around you.

So I was really

one of the best things

that I have seen in a long time.

On Disney Plus.

That is my tip.

Okay, I have two tips.

One is

No, they are actually

two opportunistic tips,

but I mean it with all my heart.

Tip one is, do you still have

no plans this weekend?

My love organizes a festival in Brussels.

It is Liz's Festival.

It starts Wednesday

evening and goes until Sunday night.

There are

23 events

or 50 events at 23 locations.

Really intense.

It is an electronic music festival.

I am going to the opening evening.

It is in Flagey.

There is a concert in the church of Laken

with ambient music.

It will be very cool.

Saar B comes in the A B Club.

There is a rave.

I think you already have the 50.

No.

There is a rave in the central station.

There is a party at 23.

It is for everyone

what they want.

Lukas has worked very hard.

I am very proud of him.

But we are always proud of him.

But we are also on the edge.

So if you still have no plans

and you want to go party in Brussels

then listen to the festival.

I am sorry that you did not start

my acting debut

in 190 countries

since last week.

No, I figured it out

in one of our own produced films.

Namely Noise on Netflix.

It is a

psychological thriller

about a father

who has a bit of a postnatal depression

and things start to happen

and to see

I would say

if you became an elderly person

it would be a traumatic movie.

Not at all.

For the rest, I will be in the background for 3 seconds.

Enjoy.

I will try to spot you.

Noise on Netflix.

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I like to keep

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We will give it a chance.

Annik is the steve here.

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Not my vibe.

I tried anyway.

I didn't change my old kiss.

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And also where I

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I don't have a kiss anymore.

Except from your partner.

You said that.

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I just have to go to the store

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I hate going to the store

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Just go to the store

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Last time

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I always had a few.

I didn't have to.

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Lukas

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He was spying on me.

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I can see that we have been

running out of time for half an hour.

The people are going to be gone.

That's it.

If you skipped, stop skipping.

This is where it starts.

Hey, skipers.

Are we here?

Have you done it with word skipers?

I thought it was a small boat.

A small boat? Is that not a skiper?

I think it's a dolphin.

Yes, it can be.

But we're going to

get rid of your stories.

What do we have 10 stories?

And you want to start.

I just want to know

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And I said, I'm out.

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They did that.

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I'm going to start by saying

what for the lolz

you said you were going to write in comming sans.

We appreciate it a lot.

I'm going to start with an anonymous

and my anonymous

flew directly in because

her title or his title or service

was. I was convinced of a murder.

Great.

Vogue jury.

I have one a4 time, so I fly in

right away.

I'm currently 32 years old

and my story is going back

in time in 2011

when I was a kid

in the hospital.

For privacy reasons, I can't

give details like names and places

but don't let me

have that.

I worked on the

part of the jury at the BOMAS

and the BOMPAS.

As a student, you get the typical

student jobs between students.

Supporting students, helping

them on the way

to the toilet.

It wasn't pleasant at all.

But what I always had to do

was to eat, share and

pick it up again.

On such a part,

there are always patients

who need more help and then

family members can help.

The help goes from cutting potatoes

to eating, feeding,

to say it without delay.

On a day, I went inside

Edwina's room.

She doesn't really know, but I think

that's a great name for a bomb.

Edwina was already in a further

stadium of dementia and very helpful.

She was in bed, she couldn't speak anymore,

she was disoriented, in time, space,

equipment.

In short, you could hardly get in touch with her.

Edwina had a daughter who came every

afternoon to help with the food

and that was discussed with the department.

Let's call her Vera.

I came

with Edwina inside her dining room.

And what I saw was the following.

A shy Vera looked up

and always held

Edwina's head

in her hands.

I didn't know what I had to

react to. And then they told me

that they wanted to pick up

her mother's head and what they wanted to

stick better so that she could sit

properly while eating.

A very sensitive feeling came up to me.

I put the plate down and helped

to pick up her chest.

And I told the front-line

after that to the nurse who

was my wife.

I didn't really see

what was going on, so we

couldn't do much. It was

written through, but yes,

there was so much going on at the department.

Only then did Vera

have a conversation with the doctor,

because her mother didn't

really have a life and Vera

asked what the options were

for the end of the therapy.

That can be decided quickly.

There is a procedure for that

that is going on.

And Edwina, who doesn't

want to come out anymore,

didn't come into attention.

The doctor also told that to Vera,

but she didn't agree with that.

A week went by

and I was eating again at the department

and the pot got pureed with

vis in white sauce.

Happy happy.

I stood at the door

and I saw Vera, the room

of her mother, come out

and leave with a very fast pass.

The same feeling

came up again and I felt

that something was wrong with my tea water.

I quickly went to Edwina's room

and the woman was in bed,

eyes closed with tears

rolling over her cheeks.

When I rubbed her name on her eyes

and her mouth, and that mouth

was filled with puree.

Much more than one normal meal.

I was able to take care of her

to call for help and I went

with my fingers in her mouth

to get all the puree out.

Unfortunately, because her mouth was so full,

a part of the puree was inhaled

so that it came into the lungs.

Shortly after that, she received a lung injection,

she was brought over to intensive care

and she died there.

So I was convinced

of a murder.

I then discussed with the doctor

what I saw and thought,

but because there was no evidence,

they couldn't make anything out of it.

It was word to word

and for Edwina, I wouldn't have made

any difference.

But I have to see more of you now.

Strong.

Strong and I understand

all parties.

Yes, sorry,

I think I

also think

I

don't say that I would do it myself

and I don't know

how, but I understand

where they come from.

You have a need for help mother.

I suspect that she is the only one

who sees that she is taking care of her mother

every day and that can become too much.

And you can ask for help

and say, look,

my mother is heavy and demented.

She doesn't realize that she is here.

Her life

is up to my opinion

that Vera's opinion is no longer life-threatening.

The doctor says,

follow the paper, we can't do anything.

I understand that maybe that's

for Vera to write about help

and that's why

it's so important, I've done that too.

Decide for yourself what the limit is

and put that on your young life,

fascinating and testament.

You've already fixed that.

Yes, I don't want to

I don't want to

I don't want to

I understand that

you can be so far-fetched

in, I'm not saying I'm not good at it.

I hope so.

Definitely not.

But I can believe that you can be so far-fetched.

Yes, yes, yes.

But probably...

But there are always other ways

to deal with that.

Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

But for Vera she will write about help

maybe the conversation with the doctor

that you might always...

Yes, yes, but in any case

the person who sent the story

has handled it on all sides.

Amai, really clever.

Amal Stajer, to be so understanding

I probably shouldn't say anything about that.

Yes, Vera, so well done.

Very well done.

Good, good story.

But Amai, that's a tough one to start with.

Yes, sorry.

I will go over to a story

of...

That you chose?

That's a story of Ida.

And Ida already has the title

The Murder on my grandpa.

And she begins...

This is a better story.

The story begins

with some important background information.

Oh, that's what I like.

So my family comes from the former Yugoslavia.

That's where the story ends.

So think about

a bit of a crack here,

Count Fever with the Netherlands,

Belgium, East Europe.

It's the words of Ida.

Now, she writes...

When my mother was 16

were her parents, my grandpa and grandma,

divorced.

It was a divorce.

And it's a relationship between my grandpa and mother.

How things also went in those countries

women had and still have

less rights, etc.

And by doing this, my grandpa took the most money

country and country with him

after the divorce.

And my grandma stayed with not so much behind.

She married many years later,

but together they got new children.

And because the relationship between my mother

and her father wasn't good,

my sister and I only saw our grandpa

once in our lives.

This was also with my uncle.

My mother didn't want to see him anymore.

I was 8 years old, so I can only remember

his new wife.

My grandpa was married three times

in his life.

My uncle was his second wife.

He was still very long with his last wife.

We never went on a visit,

but we never heard bad news.

Until the end of summer 2019

my mother and her brother got me.

My uncle heard that their father

suddenly became very sick.

They didn't know exactly what was on his hand

because it wasn't an old man

in his 70s.

And he was still very vital.

This was very special.

But given that we never had a real bond

with him, this wasn't very exciting for us.

A short post later

my mother, my sister and I

had heard that he was dead

in the winter.

The cause of the death was unclear.

A long time passed,

so I had forgotten

until one day my mother

came up with the most bizarre story

I had ever heard.

After my grandpa's death,

the three children, three sons

and one daughter, my mother,

decided to spend money, money

and a lot of money on different places.

In most of Europe, it often happens in

random villages that are loved

in the family.

Everyone would get it, but that didn't happen.

One of the farmers went behind

and posted information

in the notaries.

And what happened,

a contract was signed

by my grandpa that his last wife

would steal everything from him

in her ancient home.

And that was the best part.

This was a complete mess.

No wonder how he got sick.

It took a few weeks

from working in the garden to not

being able to get out of bed

to go to the toilet.

A lot of stories are

about his uncle and aunt.

There was a conclusion that

his last wife, our grandpa,

forgave him in a certain way.

Think of Rattegif, to be able to enjoy

all the money in his last years.

There has never been an autopsy

on the body, since everything

was arranged in Eastern European countries.

And it was easy to be bought

to stay still.

So there is also corruption.

It has been written everywhere

that he was exiled to Olderdom

and he was buried immediately.

Here in my story, it is always

an unresolved murder case.

I think you're happy about that.

I think so too.

There are too many coincidences.

Of course, of course.

Oh!

You do make a lot of money.

Really?

I don't have such stories.

Oh no.

Of course, that doesn't want to happen.

It does.

There is also an old woman

who is there with all that money.

What are you going to do with it?

Sell it.

I get it.

I don't get it.

I'm tired today.

I'm tired.

We have to be a bit

divided.

No, no, no.

The story of Clara

with the title

Two murders in a friendly group.

Oh my.

It's fair.

Herein you will find my story.

Actually, the story of my parents.

My parents were already together

in their 10s and made part

of the friendly group in the middle class.

A part of this went on to study

in Antwerp, a part of the VUB in Brussels.

The group of Brussels

went to visit each other regularly

where they sat together until late.

They did this on an evening in November 1980.

But

later on the evening

one of the friends Peter,

another friend, returned safely to her.

Really hot!

And she also went home herself.

But unfortunately, she never came.

He was found on the street in the morning,

murdered with one bullet,

right in his heart.

13 years later,

my parents,

just with my two-year-old brother

moved to the Varenlaan

in Wilrijk.

The old friend group of the middle class

grew up and grew up together,

but nevertheless they discovered

that the friendship,

with one of the friends,

wait, they discovered the friendship,

with one of the friends,

Daniel, fell behind the corner.

Still, one person is already known

in their new neighborhood.

When suddenly, in February 1993,

the police stood in front of the door.

And my mom's first reaction was

oh no,

nothing with Daniel.

Why the police answer?

Yes, ma'am, can we

come in?

Daniel is that night with one mistake

in our street murder,

in the complex of our garage box,

which we still use today.

The police

never arrested anyone

for no reason,

or can prove it

as a perpetrator.

Is it a coincidence or is there a link?

Is the perpetrator

someone from the friend group?

There has been an episode of Farouk

about the cold cases,

but no further information has been provided.

When I exit the door

and I step to the left,

I arrive at the garage box

where Daniel is murdered.

And when I step to the right,

I kid you not, in the Eglantierlaan,

that street is known for,

that is the street where you enter.

94, the trunk with Lissie Rodange,

her body was found.

So you can imagine

that I always rode 1,000 km per hour,

when I used to party

and went back home in the dark.

The best dilemma is

I want to ride in front of them.

By the way,

Jan Lampoo, someone from the friend group,

wrote a book about the story of the two murders

with the title The Campus Murder.

And they did tell me something.

Yes, indeed.

This is the thriller version of Dertigers,

I think.

Very coincidental.

Two people in one friend group,

that's too much for me.

I would be afraid

if I made part of that friend group.

Mav, right?

Very Mav, yes.

If you can't find anyone,

it seems to me

that those friends will be gone.

Especially with those two murders.

I mean, that's true.

Yes, yes, yes, of course you would think that.

Oh, unlocked.

And that's like riding home at night.

Yes, because I was already very scared

when I had to ride home at night.

No crime scene in the neighborhood.

No, just now.

Oh, I do want to get my chicken.

Awesome.

Yes, and that's where I grew up,

as a young girl.

Intense, thank you for your story, Clara.

Okay, I'll go to a story

that has been told.

It comes from Lars

and has the title

The Racist Big Mother.

Good.

I'm going to stop

defending all sides of the story.

Yes, I'm going to stop.

Lars, I did my lower school and middle school

at the St. Jan Bergmans College in Antwerp.

That's another story from Antwerp.

In the middle of the city

at the Wapper Indian Street.

The school is later joined by

Norbertus Institute.

From my sixth year until my 17th year,

I've been at this school.

Together with many other friends

who I grew up with.

Also Z. J. Jackson.

The main figure in this story.

We were a school with many mixed cultures,

I came out of the classroom

when I was 12 years old

and I've never been out of the classroom

with Moroccan-Turkish friends.

In my second middle school

to my fourth middle school

Kevin Kajirangawa,

sorry if I was wrong,

and Z. J. Jackson.

Two black boys,

both creative and very social.

They lived in Bergheim and Borger Hout.

I lived in Borgesbeek.

We were at school together on the bus

in 2009.

Kevin and I were alone to tell

what the two stories are about.

Kevin moved to the art school in 2009

and won an Idole in 2011.

Yes, that Kevin.

Z. J. Jackson is also in 2009

from school and changed

something with drawings.

We are in February 2010.

I'm in the classroom around noon.

Suddenly our class teacher comes to us

and says a lesson that wasn't from him.

I, myself, took four other classes

that happened with Z. J. Jackson

because we were his good friends

to ask questions.

One by one we were in a separate group

with one inspector.

We heard that we had the right

to refuse the conversation.

I said to the inspector,

what was Z. J. Jackson for someone?

What was your relationship with Z. J. Jackson?

He often went to school.

What do you know about his situation at home?

I answered in all honesty

that he was a gentle and kind person.

The group was dressed up and well-behaved.

Later on, we heard

that he beat his grandmother

with a hammer and worked with a spring towel.

Apparently because he was racist

and couldn't deal with the fact

that he had an adopted black child.

Further, I don't know much more about the matter.

I wasn't working on it at the time,

but under the impression.

I found a newspaper article

and he sent it.

But in 2009 I sat in the classroom

with a future winner of Idole

That's a contrast.

That's a contrast.

Yes, and then from the classroom

it was told.

What do you know about it?

I'm never for such a thing.

Never for a murder, but not even for me.

No, not at all.

Same.

Yes, that's great.

That you have a connection

with that life.

Just because you didn't expect it.

Yes, and knowing that

the boy is probably still a teenager

when he took care of these fights

how good it was to get rid of him.

Yes, we had to find out

what happened to the boy.

So thank you

Lars

for the story.

Alright.

Then I go to

the drama of Daddy Zelen.

Okay.

Best.

Best.

Since then it's really written very thoroughly.

So it's best to do it.

Best.

When my sister and I, Noor and Lena Osteijn

and our last name is important for this story

heard that there were new episodes

with her own stories, we immediately thought the same.

Let's share our family drama

aka the drama of Daddy Zelen.

Okay, curious.

A few years ago

there were cases with a very

remarkable family member.

Namely that the great mother of our father

her partner

and so the father of her children

publicly murdered.

But let's start at the beginning.

Okay.

Our bed-over-mother

Maria van der Heidt

was in 1904

the mother of her first son.

So the father of our father.

The father of the child

my bed-over-grandfather

so his name is Peter Josephus Gaian.

As it is in 1904

Maria van der Heidt

is suing Peter

to marry her.

But she refuses to do this.

When Maria didn't become

a news reporter of Peter

she had the fact

that he didn't take his responsibility.

I'm already team Maria.

I hope you don't get me wrong.

No, I have team Maria at this moment.

Maria decided to

together with her four-year-old son

to go to Petrus' wedding café.

Here was Petrus

to drink something during his lunch break.

And then he wanted to kiss her

for the last time to marry her.

At this moment

Maria discovers that

Petrus is in love with another woman.

Oh, the scandal.

And if this isn't enough

throw her some money

to get rid of her.

No, that's better.

And those things

are sold by our 96-year-old uncle.

Yes.

Love it.

But yes, she's going to her house

and decides to take it

in her own hands.

Maria, no, don't do that.

She takes the gun upstairs

and realizes that there are no bullets left.

So, with the money

that Peter doesn't want to

throw to her head

she buys a few bullets

in the shop.

That's the beginning of the 20th century.

Maria storms to the place

where Petrus works

still with her 4-year-old son

on her arm.

And Petrus is a painter

and he's on the outside wall

of an old lady in the centre

of that cell.

Maria asks him one last time

to marry her.

And after a short speech

she takes the gun upstairs

and shoots it twice.

Petrus still goes to the café

where he sat the other day

because the doctor was always there

in his spare time.

He's put on the test,

but all help comes late.

Maria, responsible as she is

is going to give herself

to the police of Kortrijk.

The case wasn't for the asian court

but for the correctional court.

Swanger Maria has been in prison

for three years

where she is in charge of her daughter

Tante Simon.

On the 10th of July,

1911,

married a sympathetic man

Guillaume Ostain.

He adopted the children

and changed their surname from

Gaillant to

Ostain.

And it turns out that we,

all generations,

have given the wrong surname.

Friendly greetings,

Ostain, Noor and Lena.

Shout out to Nonkel Noel

for sending all the papers

to us.

Oh my god,

it's been a family event

in order to share the story.

Very nice.

I'll stay here, Maria.

Me too.

Sorry, Petrus.

Maria looked for it herself.

No, that's not true.

But in 1904,

I saw her with that child

and on that arm

she was in the wall.

She warmed him.

And then

no bullets, no problem.

You just threw my head at him.

I'll buy your fucking death.

Yes, Karma's bitch.

Very good story, drama, that's it.

We can't do anything about it.

That's the balance.

I don't want to do anything about it.

We can make a tour.

That's the balance.

This is the tour.

Here's the doctor.

He always ordered porto.

For top?

We're going to fix that.

The next story comes from

Sarah.

She's the best folk jury, Dag, Lara and Silke.

First of all, thank you for the dirty podcast

Keep Up the Good Work.

I have long doubted to share my story.

It doesn't feel the same as mine,

but the lives of the villagers.

So this one.

When I was 21, I was at my grandmother's

at Haarteras.

I had to get rid of my grandmother.

A sad figure with the heart on his tongue.

After a corona lockdown,

she started to demand a strong treatment.

Because of that, it quickly went downhill

with her health.

Our grandmother had a memory of getting up

when she suddenly told us

that she had been missing

during her last few days.

Excuse me.

My curiosity took over

and told me about

a family of our family that was in the Ardennes.

It was about different nights

and nights of my grandmother.

The daughter of one of those nights

disappeared apparently in the nineties

when she was on her way to her house.

Mom knew the name of the girl

and didn't question it anymore,

but she told me that the family

always thought that the serial murder

for Nire had something to do with it.

The region and the period

are all over now.

She found the name of

my distant family member

back,

which she wanted to keep anonymous.

Also, the weekend PDMA

of Michel Fourniere spit it out.

She was still in jail.

Moiseau.

S, that's her name,

disappeared in December 1994

when she went back to her house

when she visited her sister.

Her mother was on her way to help her.

A distance of 2 km,

but S never showed up.

There was never a trace of her.

Or I didn't find anything around here.

The police reported in the beginning

that she committed suicide.

The family was afraid of death.

A decade later

the legal family had to give birth

and the suicide was decided.

On a few French articles

unfortunately there is something else

to find out about the case.

It's cool to discover that the family

used to have a disappearance case

S disappeared exactly one day before my birth.

While my aunt, her second child,

was welcomed,

couldn't find her daughter

on the other side of the country.

And it didn't stop there. One day

after my visit to my aunt

and my extreme professional research

Wikipedia, this head stood on the side.

Serious murder of Michel Fourniere

disappeared.

In an interview with Alain Remus

I later found out her name.

Her mother unfortunately disappeared

when her daughter was born.

Apparently she was still in contact

after all those years.

By the way,

it feels good to read Alain's name together with the hair.

Later, there was a team that looked after her.

Well, that was my story.

Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Love, Sarah.

There are so many people

pre-fucking-du-tru

who didn't get the right attention.

Sorry, if someone is on their way home.

That's not going to happen.

It's not going to happen.

Especially,

Fourniere was

active at the time.

Yes, with those self-defeated people

I think we really

allowed our Pollockers.

I think that many people

didn't have the treatment

that they earned in the past.

No, and that family has never been.

But it's nice to know that.

That maybe someone is still

active at the time.

Exactly.

I know you from Ina.

Like in the channel.

Hey, Laura and Silke.

I hope that I have made

you with this teaser

for my short story.

Years ago,

I went to school with my scooter

via the channel Brussels Charleroi.

With us, we call it the short way.

The vaart.

In the end,

two young girls drew me

on a bike to stop.

Because on the first sight

everything was safe enough to stop,

I did that too.

The girls asked me if I had a GSM.

I spoke here from 2005 or 2006.

So not every 13-14 years

had a GSM.

I said yes and they told me

that they saw a body in the channel.

I decided to look

and what I said

was true.

There was a blue light

in the channel.

You can still wear it,

but without a body.

I called the police

who came to me

and told me that I had to leave.

Years ago, I asked

who that person would be.

Now I come

to you today

with a warning.

Years ago,

there was a warning in the same village.

And that they had my future

that didn't come true.

I knew you wanted to know that.

They told me

after the conversation

that her real name was from the channel.

But that she never knew

who the service was for.

That was not true.

I filled the ground under my feet

when I told her that I had to be there.

And that I was standing there

by two girls. They told me

that it was probably in the channel

but that they were never

found under their bodies.

And that they probably would have been

in the screw of a boat

or at least

have been destroyed.

Especially that the puzzle pieces

fell into each other for years.

Voila, this was it. Keep up the good work

and success with the many live shows.

I never want

to find a lake.

But certainly not a lake in water.

I already have

everything I read about it.

It's not up to me.

But when you said

that half of it was

a joke.

Yes, three boys who just

have a dream.

I don't think you can see that anymore.

No, absolutely not.

But it's nice that the puzzles

fell into each other.

And closure for everyone.

Thank you, Ina, for

sending this story to me.

I really called for the help

because I think a lot of people

would have known something like that.

And the

Loelzi's.

The next story is

of Sandolin.

And they start saying,

hey ladies, I'm starting to tell

my story.

In 2014, I bought

an apartment with my friend

and noticed him.

A lot of people were

expecting this from our first child.

It was between Christmas and New Year's

and we really wanted to drive the family

along my husband's side

in our new apartment.

All super cozy and very comfortable.

I had indicated beforehand that we would

have breakfast and drinks,

and that they would be able to eat

beforehand.

It was a big family, so I didn't see

a dinner organizer sitting there.

A family member of my husband had a new

friend and wanted to introduce him.

He knew he would be a little later

because he had to work.

Everyone was nervous at the time,

suddenly the bell rang.

John from the group came in

and had a pack of food for himself

with a currywurst.

He said five words.

A few years later, he saw

that he had killed Chashia.

I'm going to say his name

and start to paint.

I don't know his name.

It's very surreal

that the man sat at my dinner table

with a pack of food and currywurst.

I'm not sure about the currywurst,

but I don't think it's really important

for this story.

Grootjes Sandolin, the mega fan.

Look, they say

that you have to meet three murderers in your life.

There you go.

I don't know about Grootjes Sandolin,

but then you can just

think about it.

I'm not the victim of murder.

I'm not the victim of murder,

but I don't live with a murderer

for years.

Statistically.

But at the dinner table.

And then it's still a bit unexpected.

I mean, when we brought

the story of Chashia

and we talked about it

that there was really

something wrong with your guest

and also such a behaviour.

You were just waiting to hear it, right?

Yes, I heard that name

and I was

it's a murder of a recent episode

so I was all one for one

to get out of it.

Who was it?

I was also laughing at the ground

when I read it.

Thank you for sharing it

with us.

Yeah, weird.

Yeah, very weird.

All right.

This is a very cool one,

because this one was sent to us

the first time in September 2021.

And then I got a forward

of, ah, it's going to be direct.

It's going to be direct.

Good afternoon, Silke and Laura.

I'm just recently familiar with

your podcast and I'm now

listening to all episodes in a fast tempo.

I'm looking for every scene

that speaks to me, so I want to

follow it. I've already made

my big compliment to bring the stories

in the way you don't do that

with dry facts, but humor and

a different view of the events.

I just listened to the podcast

a year ago, so 3 September

2001, about the stories

of listeners.

I have no idea

if you're ever going to do something,

but I'm sure I'm going to

have a good time.

I grew up in a small village

where I still live, and I also went

to the local school.

From the elementary school, I was with

my friend Elle in the class.

We live in the same street, so it was

for us, of course, that we had to

be best friends here.

I often went to play with her, and she

also played with me.

When we were in the third grade,

our parents left, we were still

still friends.

Then, together with her mother and brother,

we went back to her grandma and grandpa

to make the situation

more fun for her.

If I had to lie down more often,

her mother had to deal with

less fun things.

It was a fun period for me,

because we had a lot of fun together.

Beautiful memories.

Unfortunately, the story is no longer

that pink, because when Elle

had made her parents on a date,

to talk about the children's

disappearance. Nobody knew where

she was going.

It was no one's face

what her exact plans were.

As I always say, I live in a small village,

so in a moment of time, everyone was

at the height of the disappearance,

and nothing else was talked about.

Automatically, everyone looked at the ex-boy,

and it was gradually overgrown,

but evidence was not there.

Until my neighbor,

who, in the sixth grade,

was eventually crowned

as a child.

He had his parents talking about

her, and then he said that

when he was playing outside,

he and Elle, together with

her parents in the car, were driving.

And he was very sure, because he still

was waving at Elle and her mother.

His parents were in shock,

and called the police immediately.

Eventually, it turned out that they

were indeed in the car together.

I don't know any more details,

so I also don't know why they

stopped.

But he married her,

and buried her in a forest in

France.

By the testimony of my neighbor,

the sixth grade,

he began to know.

Because he was now sure that

he was the last person he saw with her.

He couldn't bear that she was

going to divorce him, and he

didn't want to live any further.

And that she also didn't deserve

to live without him.

And not with her, because after that

Elle also often stayed with us,

and we caught up with her.

She went around with him, like a real child

that does, just pick up and play further.

So at that moment I also didn't have

any idea of what the facts were,

but I just found the logic part

with us two very nice.

Now, so many years later, I haven't

had any contact with her for a long time,

but I still have to think about her often.

In the meantime, I also noticed

what an absurd and sad situation it was,

that people had contact with her.

I'm asking myself now how she looks

like a full-blown woman, and I just hope

that I can bring a little bit of joy

into the memories she has as a child.

This was my story, go on.

And I hope I can quickly

look at a proposal.

Oh man, I'm so...

It's a lot, isn't it?

A small village is confronted

with a murder on the mother

of a child, a child

with a crown.

But again, the reason,

the fucking mental reason

because no one can

predict that a relationship

is over

and the other is saved

as his fucking possession

and that causes

so much life.

Yes, I'm asking myself

if you don't realize

at that moment that you don't take away one life,

but that you really...

that you spread out.

Look, the person who sent the story

still thinks about that

child as a crown,

the girl is her mother

who still thinks about it.

So much around you.

Jesus, just get out of here.

Go on with your life.

And no one is

someone's possession.

It's not the last story

that we're going to hear about,

but it's...

I'm getting angry.

Yes, I'm getting really angry.

So what?

Is that the last story?

Of this episode.

This is from Mike.

Hello, Laura and Silke.

First of all, I want to tell you

that I'm a huge fan of your podcast.

I listen to it a lot

during my work. So today,

I'm not ashamed of this email at all

during my work hours.

My story isn't really about me

but it's about a couple of my family members.

Alongside my mother's side

is my family member from Wallonia.

The story takes place here

from the late 80's and the late 90's.

My uncle and aunt already have

two children who all go to the lower school.

One of the children

who are in the class together with me

is Cedric. His other name is

to preserve the anonymity.

My aunt knew Cedric's mother

very well. They are neighbors

and often make a speech

at the school gate.

My aunt also sees her when

Cedric takes her away from school.

My uncle knows Cedric's father

again. He's a very old man

but he knows he's in prison

but nobody knows why.

In the neighborhood where my uncle

and aunt live, they haven't

decided to live in prison.

So not many questions are asked here.

Suddenly, my aunt sees Cedric's mother

no longer at the school gate.

She's the only grandmother

and comes here to heal.

The house in the street

seems to be inhabited by the great mother

and the son. The family

tells that the parents are on business

because Cedric's mother

was a housewife and nobody

knows what Cedric's father

did as a job.

There are rumors that she was in prison.

In the early 90's,

Cedric's mother dies

She does as if nothing has happened

and refuses to talk about her

serious disappearance.

She lives with her mother in the house

in the street of my uncle and aunt.

My niece, who lives in the class

with Cedric, tells that Cedric

is very busy and doesn't play

with his classmate.

A few weeks later, my aunt

decides to talk to Cedric's mother

about Cedric not wanting to

spend her birthday with her.

Cedric's mother says something

that she won't go because her father

just came back from his business trip.

My aunt had the feeling that she refused

and that she wanted her sons as far away

as possible from other children and their parents.

A month later,

my aunt and uncle tell that Cedric's father

is back at home.

He is even more involved than before

and leaves the house in the evening.

The months after that, the mother and son

move to another village.

The father doesn't seem to agree

because he is still at home

in the street of my aunt and uncle.

Eventually, a flash forward

and Cedric gets a brother

as soon as he goes to the house.

In 1995, he gets a sister.

That same year, my aunt and uncle

move to another house in the same village.

They see Cedric's mother

even at the school gate.

Cedric's father is

picked up again in that year

but leaves after a few months.

Cedric and his mother

talk to no one about it.

On the last day of the school year,

1995, 1996,

my aunt and Cedric's mother

talk to each other about their children

and their vacation plans.

A few weeks later, my uncle and aunt

just like the rest of Belgium,

that their former neighbors,

Marc Dutroux and Michel Martaille,

are picked up for the murder

on Julie, Melissa, Anne and Evie

and for the execution of Sabine and Leticia.

My uncle and aunt

just like they did in Marcinelle.

I think this story

can tell.

Oh my God!

I was really thinking

what is it going to be?

Because I was a child,

I immediately thought

about Dutroux, but of course

we are a child.

They have children, right?

They now give him a different name,

but when I make this up,

what a fucking building!

Can you write to me?

What a building?

I didn't see this coming

at all.

Oh my God!

I'm so angry!

I know.

I saw it in my eyes.

This story is really not normal.

And then it just comes

so fucking close again, right?

Yes.

But I've never been so close to Dutroux,

that's now.

That quote is also outside of every context.

It's not okay.

In the context of this episode,

it's all...

That's...

It's a fucking joke.

But it's just that...

Okay, that's just weird people.

People are going to jail.

In the neighborhood there.

In the neighborhood there.

It happens more often.

We are a bit different from the rest of the Salibor.

There are more

communities than it used to be.

But because of that,

the biggest crime

was the murder of our country.

And further out, oh my God.

Mike, wow.

What a story.

Wow, how good to end this.

Yes, yes, yes.

To think about.

And we are now going further with the episode 2.

So I'm very curious what's going to come out of the bus.

No, thank you for all the stories.

Yes, and also just a moment, guys.

It was already difficult to tell 10 stories,

but we can't do more than 10 stories,

because we're busy for hours.

If you like this, you can do something good.

Yes, yes, yes.

You all have better true crime stories than we do.

Yes, right.

I've never sent anything in.

No, really, I was already thinking,

am I going to send something in with an anonymous name?

But I don't even have anything.

With an anonymous name, no.

No, no, I have a very long link

with Ronald Jansen,

but even that is not enough.

You wouldn't have selected if you had to.

No, that's right.

No, but we've had to be strict again.

So I'm sure it's not bad

if you don't, if your story isn't included.

It's on the side.

Logically.

Oh, I'm enjoying it again.

In a good and bad way.

Both.

All feelings.

All the feels.

Up to the next episode.

See you in about 1 minute,

and for you, see you in 2 weeks.

Bye.

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