Global News Podcast: US strikes targets in Syria

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The US has carried out airstrikes in eastern Syria, raising questions as to whether the

Israel Hamas conflict is spreading to neighboring countries.

This is raising tension another notch in the region and it will be seen, despite what the

Pentagon says, it will be seen as connected. Israel has carried out its second ground incursion

into Gaza in as many days as the UN gets ready to vote on calls for a ceasefire.

There's significant international pressure for Israel to either call a ceasefire or to reduce

the intensities of its operations.

And in the US, a manhunt is underway in Maine for a missing gunman who killed 18.

Also in this podcast, I think that Twitter is dying. I think it's just dying right now.

And I don't think Twitter users like me want it to die because it's become such a valuable resource

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The US has carried out airstrikes against two weapons and ammunition storage facilities in

eastern Syria. It says we're used by Iran's revolutionary guards. The Defense Secretary

Lloyd Austin said the strikes were in response to recent attacks on American bases in Iraq and

Syria by Iranian backed militia groups. Ben Rhodes, a White House advisor who works closely with

Barack Obama on Iranian and Middle Eastern policy says he's worried about a wider conflict growing.

I think what you're going to have is a tinderbox where things are flaring up in different places.

And it might be southern Lebanon at one day, it might be Syria another day, it might be Iraq,

it might be Yemen. There's just a lot of risk here and a lot of capability across this region.

And so if you continue to light that tinderbox on fire, at some point it's going to catch.

For more on what happened, I've been speaking to the BBC's Middle East analyst, Sebastian Usher.

The Pentagon has said that it was two fighter planes, two US F-16 fighter jets that carried

out the attacks on two facilities. This is an area right up against the border, the east of Syria

with Iraq. It's been a flashpoint for a very long time. It was a flashpoint during the war

against ISIS, both in Iraq and in Syria. So I mean, what the US I think is doing at the moment is

pretty playing down the significance of this particular strike, saying it was narrowly targeted

sort of business as usual, rather than saying that it's a major shift in its strategy across the

region as a result of what's happening in Gaza. But we do know that there have been reinforcements

of US troops brought into the region, some 900 troops have arrived. And also from the early days

of this conflict, there was a deployment of US warships in the region, in preparation perhaps

to deter Iran if it wanted to get directly involved, which still seems unlikely rather than using its

proxies, and also to protect its troops who still remain in the region. So how is this related,

if it is indeed to what's going on in Israel and Gaza? I think the relationship is pretty obvious,

really. I mean, although the US hasn't overstressed it and hasn't said that Iran, as far as we know,

has literally ordered these attacks. But what we've seen is that the Iranian-backed militias

both in Iraq and in Syria had not carried out these sorts of drone strikes on the remaining US

bases in those two countries for some months. And now we've seen a big uptick. I mean, around 20

US troops have been injured in these attacks. There have been at least 12 of them. So it can't

be a coincidence this is happening. So whether they're operating these groups on their own

initiative, knowing that this is what Iran would want and also to fulfill their role

of trying to make things difficult for other US in the region, I mean, there's an open question

at the moment. But I mean, we're bound to see more of this happening. And this is how Iran,

if it gets more directly and more deeply involved in what's happening in Gaza, will try to accomplish

its objectives through these proxies. I mean, we have them in Iraq, we have them in Syria,

of course, we have them in Hezbollah. On the northern Israeli border in Lebanon, in Yemen,

the Houthi movement there, they've been reported to have fired one or two missiles towards the

region as well. So I mean, this is a slowly building front, essentially, that Iran will be

hoping and will potentially be ordering, if necessary, to spread amongst its proxies across

the region as the situation in Gaza develops.

Sebastian Usher. Israel says it's carried out its second ground incursion into the Gaza Strip

in two days. According to the army, infantry and armoured units entered eastern Gaza city to

target Hamas fighters. The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has insisted a full offensive

is coming. The military operations into Gaza come as there's increasing international pressure

for aid to enter the territory, as civilians suffer the consequences of war. The UN General

Assembly is also voting on an immediate ceasefire in Gaza later on Friday. We'll have more on the

crisis inside Gaza in a moment. But first, our correspondent, Wira Davis, is in southern Israel

and gave us the latest on the Israeli incursion into Gaza.

Wira Davis. This was a little bit smaller, according to the images that we've received

from the Israeli army than the bigger incursion of the night before. Both of them say Israel

have been preparing the ground for what is still expected to be a full-scale invasion of Gaza

in order to achieve this objective of defeating Hamas militarily altogether.

Overnight, we saw as few Israeli tanks in the middle of the Gaza Strip going in for a couple

of kilometres to attack a specific Hamas-related position, according to Israel. Israel says its

objective was achieved without any injuries to the Israelis, and they quickly withdrew.

The previous night, a significantly greater number of Israeli tanks and bulldozers were filmed

going into the Gaza Strip, conducting military operations, but also appearing to clear tracks

or paths, perhaps knowing what is to come whenever that will come, which is of course

a full-scale invasion in order to achieve that objective. And this could go on. It might be

precipitating an imminent military invasion. Of course, there's significant international

pressure for Israel to either call or cease fire, or to reduce the intensities of its operations

because of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and the fact also there are 220 hostages still

being held in Gaza. Why hasn't the invasion come yet? This onslaught by Hamas was on the 7th

of October. What's holding it up? It's a really good question and a question that many Israelis

who support their government's military objectives, even if they don't support their

government, a majority of Israelis have been supporting their military objectives because

of the severity of what happened, of course, when 1,400 Israelis were killed by Hamas gunmen

when they came over the border, as you say, nearly three weeks ago. I think the Israeli

military has pretty quietly made it clear that it is ready to go in. But this is now a political

question. Israel is covered on all of its borders, especially in the north, where Hezbollah is a

serious threat. There are American ships off the shore warning Hezbollah in Lebanon and warning

Iran not to get involved. So militarily, I think Israel is just about ready to go. It has been so

for about a week or so. But Mr Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu has got political considerations,

not least the situation with the 220 hostages, of course, and there's increasing domestic pressure

for him to perhaps try and secure the release of the hostages rather than his military objective.

Since the killing of more than 1,400 Israelis by Hamas in the October the 7th attacks,

there have been stark warnings that Israel's military response is punishing the civilian

population of the Gaza Strip. The head of the UN Agency for Palestinian Refugees says the last

remaining services it's providing in Gaza are collapsing, as Israel continues its siege and

bombardment. The Hamas-run health ministry says 7,000 people have been killed since the conflict

began three weeks ago. Philippe Lazzarini from the UNRWA agency described the aid that had

managed to get through to Gaza as crumbs. There have been intense negotiations and endless shuttle

diplomacy to open a new humanitarian supply line. So far, it has only resulted in a handful of aid

convoy. This will not reverse the fact that Gaza is being strangled. The people of Gaza feel shunned,

alienated and abundant. Hospitals are either shut or under immense pressure due to dwindling

fuel supplies, resulting in pregnant women being forced to give birth in dangerous conditions.

The UN says there are approximately 50,000 pregnant women in Gaza caught up in the conflict.

One of them, a woman called Jemana, has made an audio diary of her experience going into labor.

She's been speaking to BBC Arabic's Dalia Haider.

Jemana and her four-year-old daughter Tuleen are having a precious moment together.

The 25-year-old journalist who's lived her entire life in Gaza Strip

is nine months pregnant. Their lives are now punctuated by the sounds of distant blasts.

Drones are a constant in the air.

Pregnant women like me must go out for walks, but because of the war I am not able to go out even

to buy food, so I have to walk inside the room. We have been without water for four days.

This evening the water returned, but it is so weak, a trickle.

Can you hear the sound of the drones?

My labor has begun, but I can't find anyone to take me to the hospital.

Taxi drivers are scared to leave their homes and they won't send an ambulance for a woman giving birth.

I had to go to a hospital in the middle of the strip. It is much smaller and less equipped.

When I got there, a house next to the hospital was bombed. The sound was so loud.

I went to the maternity room in shock.

They put me in a ruin. Originally for two beds and I was the third one. Other women had given birth.

One of them was on the sofa here, another on a mattress, and another in the corridor.

There is a lot of fear inside me because of the shelling everywhere.

I'm scared when on the road, scared when in the hospital.

Besides the labor pain and the shelling, all I could think about is to deliver my baby.

As I was giving birth, I was thinking how to survive with my baby, with the bombardment

everywhere inside the Gaza Strip. In all of this, Jumana had managed to get a message to me

that she was in labor at a Lauda hospital. But when I heard that Israel had given the

hospital two hours to evacuate, I called her brother for an update.

It was some good news. A baby girl. Talia had been born on the evening of October 13th.

She looks like me and her dad and her older sister. When she wakes up from sleep and cries,

she brings me back to life again.

At last, a feel of normality at home again. Talia's grandfather cuddles the newborn while

praying to Allah. And as the new sisters finally meet face to face for the first time,

Jumana can only hope for more peaceful times ahead.

Dalia Haider there speaking to Jumana, who is in Gaza.

Next, the manhunt for a US Army reservist suspected of murdering 18 people and

injuring 13 others in a mass shooting in Maine is into a second day. Police say Robert Card is

armed and dangerous and they're asking people to shelter inside their homes for safety. The

search has been widened from New York to the Canadian border. Our North America correspondent

John Sudworth reports from Maine. Maine is a state on edge. The streets deathly quiet as people in

the town of Lewiston and the surrounding areas heed the warning to shelter in place and lock their

doors. But for those involved in the urgent manhunt, it's a different picture. Outside the known

address of the main suspect, the 40 year old former Army reservist Robert Card. With helicopters

circling overhead, police use loud halers to urge him to give himself up.

Robert, you're under arrest, they say. Come out with your hands in the air.

All of this is taking place in the full glare of the media spotlight.

100 possibly more camera crews and reporters lined up here and rolling live on the action.

There's something more than a little odd about it. The hype and hullabaloo will last only as long

as the news cycle of course. Then we'll all pack up, leave this tragedy behind until the next one.

But perhaps America's deadlock over meaningful gun reform doesn't have to last forever.

Maine is a strong hunting and fishing state where even Democrat politicians like congressman Jared

Golden have voted against the Biden administration's efforts to ban military grade assault weapons.

Well now, in the light of what's happened, he's changed his mind.

I have opposed efforts to ban deadly weapons of war like the assault rifle you use to carry out

this crime. The time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure,

which is why I now call on the United States Congress to ban assault rifles to the people

of Lewiston, my constituents throughout the second district, to the families who lost loved ones,

and to those who have been harmed. I ask for forgiveness.

But with the search of the suspect's property eventually proving fruitless,

there is deep nervousness here. A few hundred meters from where some of the shootings took place,

I find local resident James Sosa. I do carry and the constitutional carry and I feel safer that

way. And I know that people here downstairs know that I do and they felt much safer last night

because of it. I wouldn't have felt so safe last night if I was not, you know, have my my guns

in ammo. I wouldn't have. But I, you know, when it was time to actually wind down a little bit,

I was able to go to sleep last night knowing that I had that by my side.

The fear on the streets of Lewiston highlights an irony of the gun control debate more generally.

The more guns appear to be a threat, the more some seek the protection they believe they offer.

The report from John Sudworth.

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The former Chinese Premier Li Kecheng has died of a heart attack at the age of 68. In March he

stepped down as the second most powerful communist official after a decade and was replaced by a

close ally of President Xi Jinping. The government has said it deeply mourns Mr Li's passing. A

correspondent in Beijing, Steve McDonnell, told me more about the former Chinese Premier.

The passing of Li Kecheng is causing a lot of sadness and shock here, not only because of the

nature of his death, that he died so suddenly having a heart attack, that he was the number two

leader in this country just months ago. But it's what he represented, which really is a sort of

different approach to Xi Jinping. So he's seen as a pragmatist, much more interested in economics

than ideology. Someone who would criticise what was going on here, who would acknowledge the

problems that China faced in order to find solutions. And it's a different way of approaching

problems than, say, those in the party who would say, you never acknowledge any problems. You know,

you don't talk about what's going wrong because, well, frankly, they don't trust the public with

that. Li Kecheng had a different approach to that. And of course, the most interesting thing is that

at one point he could have been the leader of the country. And so at the moment of his death,

some might be asking today, well, what might China have been like today had he been chosen instead of

Xi Jinping? Because he has a very different approach to that of the current leader.

We will never know. And increasingly sidelined, wasn't he towards the end of his career?

Yeah, he cut a pretty lonely figure in the Seven Man Politburo Standing Committee,

because he was from another time. That's one reason he was the last senior leader with connections to

the Hu Jintao era. Now we have everybody well and truly locked in with Xi Jinping and his way of

doing things. Whereas under the previous administration, it was kind of like a collective

leadership. And so at various times, there's Li Kecheng supposedly in charge of the economy,

and at one point famously saying that there should be more street vendors in the streets

of the big cities of China as a means of kickstarting the economy, which had really struggled during

the COVID years. Well, within days of him saying that, the Beijing government made it very clear

that those street vendors were not going to be allowed to return here, even though the Premier

has said this. And I think that just showed the limits of his power. He tried as best he could

to shape the country. But ultimately Xi Jinping's power is so great that it was hard for him to do,

I think, many of the things he wanted to. How will President Xi likely react to the passing of Li Kecheng?

They don't want to generate public enthusiasm for Li Kecheng's way of doing things. Certainly,

if it would seem to conflict with Xi Jinping's much more ideological approach. So on the one hand,

they're going to speak about him and say what great things he did. But it could well be very low key

as a means of maintaining things as they are right now.

Stephen MacDonald in Beijing. Now, the Beatles are arguably the most famous band of all time.

And earlier this year, Paul McCartney revealed in a BBC interview that he'd been using AI to

create what he called the final Beatles song based on a 1970s demo tape by John Lennon. Well,

that track called Now and Then is set to be released next week. Our music correspondent, Mark Savage,

has more. The Beatles have come together for one last time. Next week, the band will release what

they are calling their last song. The new single Now and Then started life as a home recording by

John Lennon in the 1970s, but it was only finished last year. Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and Lennon's

son, Sean, announced the track in a short trailer. When we lost John, we knew that it was really over.

Paul called me up and said he'd like to work on Now and Then. He put the bass on, I put the drums on.

It's the last song that my dad and Paul and George and Ringo will get to make together.

Now and Then originated on the same cassette that produced this new Beatles song in 1995,

but the audio was considered too damaged to be of use until now. New computer software,

trained on Lennon's voice, allowed the remaining Beatles to extract and refine his vocals.

The new recording also includes a guitar part that George Harrison played before his death

in 2001. It's been a long and winding road to get to this point, but Now and Then will premiere

all around the world next Thursday. Mark Savage with that report. It's been a year since Elon Musk

took control of Twitter, now known as X, after paying $44 billion. Some people say it's freer

and things can be said on the site that used to be banned, while others feel it's now a home for

much more abuse and disinformation. Reporting from San Francisco, James Clayton.

The year ago, Elon Musk famously, infamously, walked into Twitter holding a sink. Let that

sink in, he quipped, before firing huge swathes of its staff. Like this group of employees who filmed

their last moments at the company. It was emblematic of his erratic leadership. He slept in the office,

changed Twitter's name to X, talked about fighting Mark Zuckerberg, who launched a rival to Twitter

called Threads over the summer. I got a taste of that unpredictability when I messaged him to

ask him for an interview six months ago. A few hours later, he was telling me he'd appointed his dog

to run Twitter. I'm not the CEO of Twitter. My dog is the CEO of Twitter. Okay. But although some

have left the platform, it has been remarkably resilient. A year on X, formerly known as Twitter,

still exists. Threads, Mark Zuckerberg's rival, has not been the Twitter killer that some have touted

it to be. But it still has major problems. Despite what Elon Musk says, independent analysts like

SimilarWeb's David Carr says that X's user base is falling. X has put out different numbers saying

that things are going great. There must be something going on that we're not seeing. But

basically everything is down on a year over year basis. Advertisers have also shunned the platform

and the EU has criticised it for high levels of disinformation. He hired former advertising exec

Linda Jacarino over the summer to try to bring them back. Many of you in this room know me and

you know I pride myself on my work ethic. But buddy, I met my match. But some investors like

Ross Gerber say that advertisers won't come back until the platform is better moderated.

I think that Twitter is dying. I think it's just dying right now. And I don't think Twitter users

like me want it to die because it's become such a valuable resource for me. But it's dying.

So I don't care what Elon says. It doesn't matter what he says. There's a reality and there's a

fantasy. The fantasy that Ross Gerber is referring to is Mr Musk's big dreams for X. This is what he

told me he wants X to become. Twitter is an accelerant to X. What does that mean? What does it mean?

Well, I guess you'll have to stay tuned to find out. Ah, come on. We now know a little bit more.

He wants X to do streaming games, video calls, banking, you name it, the everything app. That

was embarrassing. Almost died. But ultimately, X still gets the vast majority of its revenue

through advertising. If it's going to survive in the short term, it needs to bring them back.

James Clayton there. The editor-in-chief of British Vogue, Edward Enninfall, has been named

as the UK's most influential black person in an annual power list. Others recognised include

The Dragons, Den Star and podcaster Stephen Bartlett. Our community affairs correspondent,

Edina Campbell reports. Edward Enninfall started his career at ID Magazine at 18.

Now 51, he's the first black man to hold the top job at British Vogue. But earlier this year,

announced he'd be stepping down to help grow the brand globally and focus on other projects.

The black power list celebrates people of African, African-Caribbean

and African-American heritage. It aims to raise awareness among young people of black role models.

Other names to make the 2024 list include Lord Woolley, who co-founded Operation Blackvote

and the comedian Mo Gilligan. Talking of power and success, Taylor Swift has become a billionaire

according to new analysis from the media group Bloomberg. They say the singer is now one of the

few artists to reach the milestone based solely on their music and performances. Our reporter,

Adam Childry, has more. Taylor Swift is perhaps the biggest name in music right now. The US leg of

her Eris tour is coming to an end and she'll be taking the show around the world, starting in

South America next month. Bloomberg say ticket sales for her Eris tour shows performed to date

have passed $700 million, which have helped Swift's net worth reach $1.1 billion. Olyriana,

Jay-Z and Beyonce are also reported to have passed the billion-dollar mark. Since 2019,

Swift is estimated to have earned $400 million from the music she has released and her total

Spotify and YouTube earnings are around $120 million. The American pop star is also spreading

the cash around, boosting local economies whenever she's in town. In Seattle, for instance,

downtown hotel revenues reached a record high of $7.4 million on the first night of her Eris tour.

Swift has just released a new version of her album 1989, which features four new songs. It's her

fourth album re-released since 2019 and it's part of her campaign to regain control of her own

work after an investment company bought her master tapes. It will undoubtedly only add to the star's

ever-growing fame and fortune. That report from Adam Chowdhury.

And that's all from us for now, but there'll be a new edition of the Global News podcast later.

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Otaiba. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Nick Kureishi. Until next time, goodbye.

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violent deaths rocked Osage County, Oklahoma, a century ago. Sisters Rita, Minnie, Anna, and their

mother Lizzie, all left behind lucrative rights to the oil beneath Osage land, while lawman Tom

White was horrified by the chilling plot he uncovered. Join me, Tim Harford, host of the

Caught Me Tales podcast, my new two-parter on the Osage killings, the story behind the book

and film Killers of the Flower Moon. Both episodes are available now wherever you get your podcasts.

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The US military has carried out air strikes on two storage facilities in eastern Syria. Also: Israel carries out another ground incursion in the Gaza strip, and
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