AI Hustle: News on Open AI, ChatGPT, Midjourney, NVIDIA, Anthropic, Open Source LLMs: U.S. Restricts Nvidia & AMD AI Chip Exports to Middle East
Jaeden Schafer & Jamie McCauley 10/5/23 - Episode Page - 9m - PDF Transcript
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So the big headline here is that the United States government has widened the scope of
export restrictions on artificial intelligence chips from NVIDIA and advanced micro devices,
which is AMD.
So they've done this to regions beyond China because previously China was the big one that
they were restricting this to.
They didn't want China to catch up with their kind of AI, quote unquote, dominance.
But this is now encompassing parts of the Middle East.
This is really interesting because we saw a bunch of headlines a few weeks ago that
the Middle East had ramped up Saudi Arabia and other places had ramped up like massive
purchasing of a lot of these different chips, spending like billions on it.
And I wonder if, not I wonder, I'm sure they had forewarning by somebody a heads up that
this was coming down the pipe and we're trying to get ahead of this.
I just find that like way too, way too, I don't know, too much of a coincidence that
this is just a few weeks ago, like the Middle East ramps up billions of dollars in purchases
and now they're like the bands are kind of coming down.
So I think this is kind of interesting.
And another interesting thing is I was recently at the AI for conference and there's a bunch
of industry leaders from all over AI, people from the government, people from top companies.
And I heard some rumblings from some people with connections to lobbyist government, other
areas that there was big moves being made in this space.
I'm assuming this is what they're referencing to.
They weren't actually saying anything.
And so yeah, I just wonder how, how that all gets around.
Who's part of the club that gets to find out ahead of time on all this kind of stuff?
Very, very interesting.
But in any case, we are finding out about this today because according to regulatory filings
from NVIDIA, these restrictions, which target the company's A100 and H100 chips, which of
course are optimized for machine learning, will not have a quote immediate material impact
on its financial results.
So AMD NVIDIA's competitor in the market has also been served with similar restrictions.
A source familiar with the situation told routers about this, that the new restrictions
are not going to materially affect AMD's revenue streams.
So this is kind of interesting, right?
AMD NVIDIA, they're like, look, don't worry, it's not going to affect our revenue streams.
I mean, of course it's not going to affect the revenue streams.
Right now there's like, there's wait lists a mile long for everyone to get these chips.
So it's not like, oh no, we can't ship more chips there.
We're going to like, no one cares about the revenue streams.
They're making so much money and there's a massive shortage.
So they're just going to make however much they can.
They're going to charge whatever they want to charge.
But it is interesting the downstream effects of this.
Export controls like these are generally instituted by US officials for national security reasons.
So last year, like I mentioned, a very similar action had underscored Washington's kind
of tightening grip on China's technology capabilities.
However, I think it remains unclear what specific, you know, national security risks are attributed
to chip exports to the Middle East.
So in a follow-up statement, NVIDIA clarified its stance on the issue saying, quote, the
new licensing requirement doesn't affect a meaningful portion of our revenue.
We are working with the United States government to address this matter.
So the US Commerce Department, responsible for administering export licenses, stated
that the US quote has not blocked chip sales to the Middle East, however, it declined to
offer specific comments on new requirements affecting individual US companies.
So like publicly they're saying, we're, you know, we're not blocking chip sales, but like
privately they're like, yo NVIDIA, you guys aren't allowed to like ship any more chips
over there or, you know, you have to, you got a quota or whatever you got to follow.
I don't know.
It's kind of funny.
Anyways, I think interestingly last September, AMD also disclosed new license requirements
that would prevent the export of its MI250 AI chips to China.
And this regulatory landscape, I think, since prompted NVIDIA and AMD and Intel to develop
less powerful AI chips, which are exportable to the Chinese market.
And so what's interesting here is it's like, these licenses go to specific products.
And I also kind of like work with different, you know, specifications or capabilities of
the products.
So essentially if they want to get around like the loophole of not being able to export
to China, all they have to do is make like a less capable chip.
And what's interesting is like, I guess America is okay with that because they're like, hey,
we're still maintaining like our AI dominance because we can ship China chips.
But they're going to be like way less powerful.
So we get the best of the best kind of deal.
So I think the most recent restrictions come without kind of explicit reasoning from the
US government, although NVIDIA noted in last year's filings that the controls essentially
aim to quote, address the risk that products might be used in or diverted to a military
end use or military end user in China.
So I think for context NVIDIA's recent fiscal quarter reported $13.5 billion in sales mostly,
which was coming from the US, China and Taiwan.
So only about 13.9% of the company's sales were attributed to other countries.
And I think the specific Middle Eastern nations impacted by the news restrictions remain sort
of undisclosed.
So last year, the geopolitical tension concerning Taiwan, which is a significant hub for semiconductor
manufacturing added kind of a new layer of complexity to chip export policies.
And in October of last year, the Biden administration took further action by issuing a comprehensive
set of export controls designed to limit China's access to certain semiconductor chips manufactured
globally with US equipment.
So I think this move aimed to kind of curb China's technological and military advancements
and was subsequently echoed by Japan and the Netherlands.
I think what's interesting here is that, you know, the absence of AI chips from American
companies like NVIDIA and AMD has some pretty fairly significant ramifications because without
these more advanced chips, Chinese organizations find it difficult to perform complex computational
tasks like image and speak recognition and doing this like cost effectively.
That's the big difference here.
So these technologies are kind of integral, not only in consumer applications like smartphones,
but also they have a lot of potential in the military and military applications, including
analyzing satellite imagery for weapons or bases and kind of sifting through digital
communications for intelligence purposes.
So all in all, you know, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of criticism out of the country's
band from these things.
The US seems to think this is kind of like a military play where they're not just slowing
down other countries access to AI, but also their access to integrating like powerful
chips and AI into their military.
So kind of keeping the edge there.
It's going to be interesting to see what the impact is and how this story continues to evolve.
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In this episode, we delve into the latest developments as the U.S. government imposes restrictions on the export of AI chips from industry giants Nvidia and AMD to the Middle East. We explore the reasons behind this move and its potential impact on the global tech landscape. Tune in to understand the implications of these limitations on AI hardware distribution in the region.
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