AI Hustle: News on Open AI, ChatGPT, Midjourney, NVIDIA, Anthropic, Open Source LLMs: Unlocking GPT-4: Education Disrupted by Personal Tutoring AI
Jaeden Schafer & Jamie McCauley 10/5/23 - Episode Page - 11m - PDF Transcript
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ChatGPT has the ability to disrupt a lot of different industries and one in particular
is education.
Today on the podcast, we're going to be diving into how GPT-4 is going to be disrupting education
and what is currently happening in this space.
I think one of the biggest stories in this particular area which actually OpenAI announced
when they did their big huge launch of GPT-4 is Khan Academy and Sol Khan, who's the founder
of Khan Academy, explains why he thinks that GPT-4 is ready to be a tutor.
In the past, this has gotten a lot of criticism, I guess you could say, because ChatGPT obviously
has the ability to hallucinate and just make up random facts.
People when talking about GPT and ChatGPT being used for education, one of the big concerns
is what if this thing is just making up random stuff and it's teaching it to kids and now
they don't know what it's actually like fact and fiction.
This has obviously been a big debate and a big area of discussion in the past, but what's
really interesting is Mr. Khan obviously says this technology is very powerful, I think
that's something we all know, and then he points out the fact that it is getting better
and better, so that obviously is something that we all know.
But I think that there's also a lot of just high profile examples, aka people posting
screenshots on Twitter or wherever, about ChatGPT getting really basic facts and math
and all that kind of stuff wrong.
So I think OpenAI is trying to claim that their newest version GPT-4 solves a lot of
those problems.
I don't know if it actually is any better at doing math per se, but they have also integrated
plugins that are better at doing math and that kind of stuff, and so I think that might
be used to fill the gap.
Now it's pretty interesting because if you talk to Khan Academy specifically about kind
of what they have going in, they actually have a AI-assisted tutor called Khanmigo,
and that is what they kind of launched with when GPT-4 initially launched.
So with that, I think at the moment they have a couple new schools that added, so I think
they have a total of 425 teachers and students that are currently testing this out, and so
I think they're just rolling it out to a couple specific schools at the moment, and how it
works essentially is that the Chatbot is pretty much like a real life online tutor looking
at students' work and helping them when they get stuck.
That's kind of the idea of it.
So in a math problem, for example, it would detect not just whether a student got the
answer right or wrong, but also where they might have gone astray in their reasoning.
If you kind of zoom in out and look at the bigger picture, ChatGBT obviously has gotten
a lot of criticism around everything within education from people saying it's not correct
enough to people wanting to ban it because they're worried that people are just going
to use it to write all of their essays, yadda yadda, and so there's obviously a whole number
of different concerns, but what's interesting is Khan said that he understands all of these
fears that people, you know, all of these kind of controversies that are happening right now,
but he also notes that many of the people criticizing ChatGBT and whatnot are actually
using it themselves. You see this a lot. A lot of teachers are using ChatGBT to help them grade
students' work and to help them come up with assignments and stuff like that.
I've even talked to a teacher that had it write his entire curriculum for his entire semester,
so obviously this thing is incredibly powerful, and I think it really is in the best interest
of these students to let them use it, get to know it because when there's something in this
powerful tool, you don't want these kids to be the ones left behind, and so I think for
all of the flaws that it might have, I'd say today this really offers an amazing opportunity
for kids in, you know, both rich and developing countries to really get personalized learning
with this tool, despite some of the imperfections it might have, and especially under the, you know,
realization that this technology is going to get better and better, and we want to start testing
and integrating it now so that we can have it ready as this thing becomes, you know, incredibly
accurate in the future. Something interesting to note is that Khan Academy says that they didn't
just take GPT-4 right out of the box, you know, because, I mean, essentially you can get an API to
chat GPT and use it and integrate it into whatever you're doing, but they said, you know, it's not
just straight out of the box, it's not just, you know, an API because obviously that wouldn't have
any value add. They said that they added some of their own secret sauce to help avoid math problems,
and they've said they'd be surprised if anyone has worked harder on this than they have, which is
kind of interesting because, you know, math is one area that has been notoriously criticized in,
and in previous versions before GPT-4, I tested that pretty extensively and found it not super
great. I know GPT-4 has helped some of these problems, and I think plugins have helped a lot
more, but anyways, it's going to be pretty interesting. I kind of know what they're talking
about, you know, in the past, I've helped develop AI life coaches, and we have really complex and
elaborate and long prompts that you're essentially telling chat GPT to, to act like, to help it become
a life coach, and so I'm assuming it's going to be the same thing, you know, it's going to say,
pretend you are a math tutor, look over the kid's work, look at how they've solved the problem,
explain every, you know, step of the way, the problems they solved, and they probably have some
sort of plugin integrated that says, for all computation of math problems, use x, y, and z
plugin, or, you know, pull it from here, don't do the math problem yourself, like, I'm sure they have
a lot of those kind of things, I mean, secret sauce, it doesn't sound that complicated, you're
just going to integrate it with a calculator, essentially, and then you're going to explain the
steps of what it, what this student needs to do, so I'm sure they did work hard and tried to make
some custom stuff, but also, I don't know, I wouldn't give them like too much credit, like they have
their own, you know, Khan Academy GPT, like they really are still using an API, even if they have a
elaborate prompt that they put at the beginning, and maybe a plugin they integrate with. In any case,
another popular feature allows students from elementary school and all the way up to high
school to take either side of an issue and debate with the AI tutor, again, I'm sure that Khan
Academy or whatever is going to try to play it off, like they have some secret sauce, but
all you're going to do is say, pretend that you are a elementary school or, you know, high school
grade 12 debater, and you're debating the opposite side of this issue, and the issue is blank, and
then it just fills it in with, and then it just debates, right? So, I mean, it's nothing that,
like, not anyone could just figure out, so I'm, you know, I haven't quite been dazzled by anything
that they've done specifically, but obviously GPT-4 is getting better and better, and this is an
amazing tool, regardless of whether it's Khan Academy or virtually anyone that I think is going
to be able to implement this in the near future. Now, that being said, I do hope Khan Academy,
you know, as they are, I remember using them growing up, and they are a pretty big platform,
so I do hope that they, you know, come and help develop some really powerful AI tools,
maybe use some of their data to build some of their own language models, but at the moment,
they are using an API, and so I won't hype them as a company up too much, since they're just using
the API from chat GPT. So, Khan Academy does, you know, acknowledge or whatever that they're,
the chatbot, like the students, it is helping tutors still has a lot to learn, and that's why
it's being only made available to a really small group they're testing it on right now, right,
around 500 students and teachers, and I think that it's going to get better. They said that people
who are opting in hopefully know that it's not perfect, and that it's getting better quite fast
with earlier versions, including GPT 3.5, so that's the second version of chat GPT. They said that
the engine could help answer a lot of math problems, but it couldn't break down the math
problems into steps the way that GPT forecams, so that is one of the big improvements that has
been made, and that's actually what was really necessary for this thing to be considered, you
know, like a full-time tutor, because that's what it needed to be able to do. So, as far as next
steps on what Khan Academy plans on doing, they say that they would love to see the program cover
current events and be able to work on problems that require a diagram or graph. We're not there yet,
but with the new feature where you can upload images to chat GPT into GPT 4, this might be
something that is coming soon, so it's going to be really interesting to see what happens in the space,
how Khan Academy plans on integrating some of this technology into their platform,
and also how education and schools as a whole integrate this into what they're doing. It's
going to be a really interesting space to continue watching in the future.
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