The Intelligence from The Economist: The Intelligence: Iran’s dangerous game in Gaza
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Our correspondent investigates the controversy and she does inhale.
But first,
In Syria overnight, American forces carried out airstrikes against bases that it said were
used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and its partners. The Defense Department
said the strikes were in response to at least a dozen attacks this month on American personnel
in Syria and Iraq. America's Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said the move was
separate and distinct from the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Not everyone's going to see it that way. For decades, Iran has been funding, backing,
and stoking conflicts all over the Middle East, from Syria all the way down to Yemen.
In the Palestinian territories, it's the force behind Hamas. In Lebanon, it props up the militia
group Hezbollah. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken recently said that America would like
to avoid a wider regional conflict. We don't want escalation. We don't want to see a second or
third front develop. Iran might in fact like to see exactly that at its peril.
Iranian leaders are really trying to thread a needle. They want to escalate tensions with the
West, with the US, with Israel. Nicholas Pelham is a Middle East correspondent for The Economist.
But they don't want to trigger a full-blown war. It's a very hard
balance to calibrate. It's very hard to do and very, very dangerous.
So what's the calculus here? What does Iran stand to gain by trying to escalate this conflict?
In a way, they've already pocketed some gains. The biggest win so far has been
the delay to the normalization deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
It appears for the time being that any deal between the two countries is on pause.
That's a big deal, because it would have amounted to a major victory for the United States.
With America's backing, four Arab states have already normalized relations with Israel in
recent years. That's all kind of part of the process known as the Abraham Accords.
Adding Saudi Arabia to that group, the most powerful Arab state, would fundamentally change
regional politics. It would also have left Iran very isolated in a predominantly Sunni-led
region. You've just seen Sunni-Pak brokers working with Israel.
Okay, that's the big picture, the strategic play. What about the short term?
The crisis has, I think, been quite good for the economy. Regional turmoil always helps increase
the price of oil, and oil has risen about $5 a barrel since a mass is deadly assault into Israel
on October the 7th. Of course, Iran is taking advantage of the run-up in prices. They're
also pumping more than 3 million barrels per day, which is the highest it's been since America
withdrew from the nuclear deal in 2018. The reason they're able to do that is because
America has just got too much going on to be enforcing sanctions, but also it doesn't want
to add to inflationary pressures, particularly in an election year.
But doesn't all of this kind of create risks also for Iran trying to escalate a war?
Absolutely. I think there's recognition in Iran that if there was to be an all-out war,
it would be an unwinnable one. It could draw Iran into a full-blown conflict with America,
and I think the atollers are realistic enough to want to avoid that. And then they also have to
worry about their domestic base. A regional war could prompt more protests at home by Iranians
who have fed up with their regime's foreign adventures. And it comes at a particularly
tense time in Iran at the moment because Iranian officials have pronounced an Iranian school girl
to be brain dead after she was beaten by morality police at the beginning of the month. And of course,
that evokes memories and outrage on the part of an Iranian population that exactly this time last
year was on the streets protesting against the death in custody of Masa Amini, another young
woman who was arrested by morality police for not properly wearing a veil.
As you say, Nick, it's a very fine line to walk. How does Iran go about escalating just short of
something far worse? Iran has been building up its network of proxies across the entire Middle
East for decades. They're supplied with Iranian arms, they're well-trained. And this network is
known as the Axis of Resistance, and it's become something which for Iran is probably even more
an effective deterrent than its nuclear program. And this is particularly effective in Southern
Lebanon where you have an armed cheer group, Hezbollah, which has more clout and more firepower
than any other force in the country, including its armed forces. And leaders from Hezbollah
have been warning that if Israel was to launch a ground operation, they would consider that to be a
red line and they would act. And so you've seen Israelis that have already been evacuated from
towns along their northern border with Lebanon. You've seen increasing skirmishes across that
border and just the game of tit for tat, which is escalating, and it's really hard to know how that
can be contained. We know that the United States has two carrier strike groups that are already in
the region. On the one hand, that could be a warning particularly to Hezbollah and its backers
not to escalate. On the other, I think there is concern in Lebanon that Israel might take advantage
of that to launch a preemptive strike knowing that it would have American cover. And this game
of brinkmanship could easily spin out of control. And you said this axis of resistance is more of
a network. Who are the other players that matter here? You've got the Puthis in Yemen. They're a
cheer force that have controlled the capital for almost a decade. They've been fighting a war with
Saudi Arabia. They're heavily armed. Last week, they fired three cruise missiles and drones up the
Red Sea towards the Israeli port city of Elat. And those missiles are believed to come from Iran.
They were intercepted by an American destroyer in the Red Sea, but that clearly poses one threat.
And then you've got scores of sheer militias operating in Iraq who pretty much dominate
government there. And in recent days, they've renewed their targeting of American interests in
Iraq. They've been lobbing rockets at bases, housing American troops. So I think there's a
kind of implicit warning that if Hamas falls in Gaza, then Western interests will fall elsewhere in
the region. And how much say so? Does Iran really have overall of these groups? And how much will
they necessarily do what Iran says? Yeah, I think the answer to that is we simply don't know what
Iran is saying is that Hamas launched its breach of the frontier with Israel and Iran did not have
prior knowledge of that operation. The same is also said about Hezbollah's descent into war with
Israel in 2006. So it does seem that these are not groups which operate by remote control. I think
there's also a concern that since Qasem Soleimani, the head of the foreign arm of the Islamic
Revolutionary Guard Corps was killed by America three years ago, the commanders in Iran have
probably lost more control over these groups. So, you know, we know they're heavily armed,
we know that they're ideologically driven, and they could be loose cannons. But of course,
these proxies also have to worry about their own domestic context, and they are juggling with the
dilemma of knowing that if they do escalate, they really could risk alienating the countries that
have given them shelter. And the countries that are giving all of these groups shelter, how have
they responded so far? I don't think particularly positively. If you look at Syria's President
Bashar al-Assad, he's reluctant to enter the fray. He's already concerned, I think, about
Hezbollah and other groups sort of running a mock inside Syria. He doesn't have the Russian presence
that he used to to keep them in check. And he is nervous about the risk that they could provoke
a second, or perhaps a third, front with Israel. And he particularly doesn't want to go into bat
for Hamas. He views them as a group that he harbored, gave them refuge, and then they turned
against him in 2011 when they joined other Syrian rebels in rising up against his rule,
and then picking up arms against him. The Lebanese are also concerned that
they could be dragged into a war between Hezbollah and Israel that is going to kind of pummel
their hopes of a tourism revival. They're already struggling with major crises, financial crises,
and the destruction of infrastructure that was caused by a port explosion. So they're
in no desire for yet another escalation. They're exhausted. And then if you look at Iraq as well,
it's really nervous about being caught in a power struggle between Iran and America. It really wants
a chance just to recover as well. So each of the proxies has to worry about their domestic base,
but then they also have to show that they remain a credible force and are true to their rhetoric
when they say that there are red lines and they will intervene. But what about the strength
of that rhetoric? What happens if any of these satellite groups escalates beyond the point of
no return here? And I think we're already seeing a major escalation. If you kind of rewind the
clock one decade, two decades, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been confined within its own
narrow borders. You haven't seen this dramatic intervention from outside at least since 2006.
And now there's a major risk that that's changing. And there's a risk that if the West is drawn in,
then Russia and China might get involved too. So for the time being, I think Iran has been
quite comfortable pocketing fairly limited gains if the region spins out of control
and into a conflagration. I don't think that's something which anybody is going to come away
from celebrating. Nicholas, thank you very much for your time. Jason, it's always a pleasure.
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I don't know. I can't think of any words. I mean, it's just really nice. Yeah,
I don't know what you want me to say.
Catherine Nixie is our fearless Britain correspondent.
That was the sound of me consuming laughing gas. The British government has just decided that by
the end of the year in Britain, taking laughing gas will be punishable by two years in prison,
and dealing it will be punishable by 14.
You can call it whatever you like, laughing gas, whippets, nitrous oxide,
NOS. It's got lots of different names like most drugs. It's just a gas that you inhale,
usually by putting into a balloon and then sucking the air into you.
People take it because it just feels really nice. It's a very, very benevolent, jolly drug.
Not seen as benevolent by everyone, of course. Its critics condemn it as hippie crap,
and its canisters are described as a plague and its uses described by some as a terrifying epidemic.
People get very cross about nitrous oxide today, but they didn't always. It suffered a spectacular
fall from grace.
This gas was once taken by pretty much anyone who was anyone in intellectual British life.
It breathed life into the romantic poets. It transformed anaesthetics.
According to those who took it, it let you touch the face of heaven.
When one man took it, he said, I believe that the atmosphere of the highest of all possible heavens
will be composed of this gas.
The British chemist Humphrey Davy was particularly associated with it. He tried it initially to see
if it could be used for medical purposes and then just got immensely into it. He wrote pretty much
an entire book in which he gives it to various animals. So he gave it to a bee, which he found
was unable to fly in a straight line. He gave it to a lizard, which staggered around. He gave it to a
butterfly, which was rather sweet. He wrote that the butterfly wrapped his wings around his body and
then fell down senseless.
Scientists discovered laughing us in the 18th century. Just around the time when they were
starting to realize that there apparently is substantial air all around them, in fact,
contained multitudes. A scientist called Joseph Priestley discovered that
there was a dangerously fiery gas in the air that when piped into a jar made candles burn more brightly,
and that was oxygen. He discovered that there was a colorless gas that if you bubbled it through water
made it fizz pleasingly, and that was obviously carbon dioxide, and he was the inventor of soda water.
Auditable scientists discovered this gas that when you piped it into researchers,
made them feel like they had discovered the secrets of the universe. It can give you the
sense of utter omniscience. The psychologist William James would later write that it made
people talk meaningless drivel, and James should know because he took a lot of it and
talked an awful lot of meaningless drivel.
Humphrey Davy, after inhaling gallons of the stuff, declared that nothing exists but thoughts.
James, after he'd taken rather less. So there are no differences, but differences of degree
between different degrees of difference and no difference. These words might be total rubbish,
but the realization that laughing gas inspired the mere chemistry could manipulate a mind.
That was really profound, and that would start to change how people thought about what the brain was.
Or as James put it, something might sound like nonsense, but it is pure on sense.
In modern day England, users have proved almost as enthusiastic as Humphrey Davy was.
Laughing gas is now the second most commonly used illicit drug in England and Wales among 16-24
year olds, after cannabis of course. And it's easy to see why. It's really simple to buy.
It's canisters are sold for use in whipped cream dispensers. You can just buy them on Amazon.
Reviewers actually praise it as an excellent cooking accessory.
There are some reasons to be cautious. It is a drug, and so like any drug there are downsides,
heavy long-term use can cause nerve damage. Prolonged exposure can be problematic.
That's why some hospitals are taking it out as a pain relief, because they don't want their
staff to be damaged by it. Addiction is unlikely, but over-enthusiasm is perfectly possible.
After taking gallons of the stuff, Humphrey Davy definitely became a bit over-keen on it,
and said that he used to start to want it any time he saw anyone breathing,
which was obviously quite a lot of the time. There's been a bit of a police crackdown on it
recently. It was already illegal to deal in it, and that has moved people from using the smaller
canisters to the larger cylinders, which is the equivalent, said one expert, of moving
teenagers from drinking Shandy to drinking Neat Vodka. Critics say that the new law,
when it comes in, will exacerbate this kind of behaviour, people taking the stronger version
rather than the weaker version, and it will just get more dangerous.
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