Global News Podcast: The Happy Pod: The gift of sight
BBC 9/2/23 - Episode Page - 29m - PDF Transcript
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I'm Jackie Leonard and in this edition uploaded on Saturday, the second of September,
the extraordinary impact of an experimental stem cell treatment for a serious eye injury.
They kept talking about thank you for participating and thank you for doing this for us.
And I told them thank you for doing this for me. They saved my life.
The Italian who saved a little girl as she fell from an apartment block.
I opened my arms, I closed the eyes and an upper to catch her.
I don't know how, but I did it. She fell down my chest in my arms.
The green tech to help reduce the costs and carbon footprint of the fishing industry in
Southeast Asia. To have the possibility that you can give more to fish your folks out there,
it's a very, very good feeling. Also in this podcast,
the feet start moving and the movement is one, two, three hop, one, two, three hop,
one hop, two hop and then there you go with the sticks.
Our political correspondent like you've never heard him before.
Many of us perhaps take our sight for granted, but for Phil Durst, who's 51 and from Alabama in
the US, a life changing accident left him blind and in terrible pain. Then he was given a ray of
hope. He heard about an experimental procedure to treat corneas damaged by chemical burns and
other such injuries. We'll hear about the science in a moment. First though, Phil told us what happened
to him. So I was standing in front of a piece of commercial equipment in the back of a restaurant
and the pump built pressure somehow and it squirted right across my face. It's 27 percent
sodium hydroxide, landed pretty hard and heavy in my left eye and a little bit in my right eye
and I was blind and suffering some of the worst pain I've ever felt in my whole life.
And then you volunteered for this trial for this experimental procedure. Volunteering for
something experimental takes courage. What were your thought processes?
I couldn't go on doing what I was doing. I was suffering cluster headaches, migraine headaches
one to two a day. I couldn't leave the house. I was living in the dark. So the thought of
volunteering and being brave, I do not have a cape and boots in my closet. I would have done
anything to make this stop. After the actual transplant, my light sensitivity has decreased.
I actually started to see for a while there. I was super excited to get to see the big A
on the eye chart, you know, the biggest letter. And my distance vision in my right eye is 20-25
with glasses on. So I can drive a car. I can do all sorts of things. But talking about the
quality of life and how life has gone on and how much better it is, I don't have words to describe
it. I couldn't go on. It wasn't just being blind. It was what light did to me. I was walking around
with my eyes closed everywhere I went because there wasn't a pair of sunglasses or shades
that could filter the light enough to give me the relief that I needed in this house. I mean,
they kept talking about thank you for participating and thank you for doing this for us. And I told
them, thank you for doing this for me. If not for Dr. Yurkunas recognizing a need for something
like this, what I was going through, I probably wouldn't be here today. And I mean, so Dr.
Yurkunas, do you need me to cut your grass and clean your gutters? Give me a call. I'm on the
next plane. Whatever you want, I will do it. She saved my life. They saved my life.
Well, let's hear now from Dr. Ulla Yurkunas from Mass Eye and Ear in Boston, who's behind the
knee treatment. This procedure is called callic. It's basically taking a small biopsy of a corneal
tissue from a healthy eye, taking that biopsy to laboratory to cultivate the cells or grow them
and after making more stem cells, placing them back onto the patient's eye. So there's already
another procedure using stem cells from a healthy eye on an injured one. But this is different,
isn't it? You've improved the system and this one is less risky. Yes. So currently in the United
States, the most common modality is to actually take the biopsy and directly place it on the
diseased eye without cultivating those stem cells. And a lot of times the risk of that is that you
have to take pretty large biopsies from the healthy eye, putting the healthy eye at risk.
And what sorts of eye injury are we talking about? What sorts of people might this be able to help?
It helps various injuries, but it goes even beyond that. So if there is a patient who has an
infection that has depleted their stem cells, if there is an issue of trauma to the eye or
chemical injuries, so anything that can destroy those stem cells can be actually treated with
this procedure. So you've made the science clear and it has been a really lengthy process to get
this far. Tell us about the patients that you've been working with. It is a really great pleasure
and really honor to be able to do this trial. Because first of all, the patients have entrusted
their eye to us. This trial is a combination of 20 years of work, literally from bench to bedside.
So for me personally, it's wonderful that the basic research that we were working on is now
in humans. Dr Ulla Yokunas and before that we heard from Phil Dust. Now to cheer in in Italy,
which is celebrating an incredible catch, Mattia Aguzzi and his girlfriend Gloria were on their
way to buy bread when they heard desperate cries from high above the street. We heard somebody
screaming for the balcony on the other side on the street. Stop, don't move, go back. Looking up,
we saw a little girl at the fifth floor of the building next to us. We started shouting to her
to stay back, but she didn't hear us. She continued until she was angry just with her small hands to
the balcony. In that moment, I was following her movements. I opened my arms, I closed the eyes
and I opened to catch her. I don't know how, but I did it. She fell down my chest in my arms. It has
been a strong impact. Both of us felt on the street. I couldn't breathe for a few moments.
Then after a while, she started crying. The worst was over. She was alive. Gloria must be so proud
of you. Yes, yes. She was very, very scared, not only for the baby, but also for me. Well,
yeah, it was a long fall, a huge catch. You did fall to the ground. Are you okay? Yes, yes, I'm
okay. I've been at the hospital just for some checks until today afternoon, but after a few
hours, I was at home. The strongest impact has been under an emotional point of view. The following
night, I could sleep just a few hours. I started thinking more and more about what happened,
or maybe more about what fortunately didn't happen. I felt like I've been in a parallel dimension,
so many media were calling for an interview to get information. Including me, it must be said.
Importantly, the little girl, is she okay? Yes, also the baby is fine. On Saturday afternoon,
I saw her for a few minutes at the hospital. She was smiling, watching cartoons. This is the most
important thing for me. And you mentioned the reaction and all the media interest. Tell us a
bit more about the things that you've heard from your family and your friends and social media and
famous people. When I met my mom Saturday evening, she gave me a long hug crying for the motion,
as well as my dad and my sister. I received many messages from friends, colleagues, even from people
who don't know. The prime minister, the Piedmont president, is important to share the credit with
Emilio, who was the first person to raise the alarm when he saw Frida on the balcony.
So, Matteo, you've had this huge emotional reaction from your family and friends and
international interest. What's it like to be a hero? No, I don't feel like a hero. I follow
with my instinct, hope that anybody else would have done the same. For me, in that fragment of
second, it was the only right thing to do. I always been a rational person, but now I stand
to believe the destiny.
Traditional prosthetic limbs can be expensive and often heavy, and a lot of the places where
they're most needed lack trained personnel and infrastructure. Well, one company trying to do
something about that is called Koala. It started what proved to be a successful pilot scheme in
Sierra Leone in 2021 and is now working to roll it out nationally. Founder Nate McAbuag
told us what's different about his prosthetics. The way we make prosthetics is much more akin
to how you might make a trainer or bit of sportswear or an item of clothing. So, instead of
a rigidly moulded socket, it's soft, flexible, it's reinforced where it needs to be, but the rest
of it is made out of fabrics. And then instead of really complicated things on the end that are
quite heavy and hard to use, which have simple tools that clip on and off and you have ones for
pens, for playing music, for doing other sports. Obviously, you've been working in the UK, but
you've also been carrying out a pilot project in Sierra Leone. What took you there?
Yeah, our chairman at the time had done work in the past and he had some contacts out there and we
met an amazing guy called Dr. Abston Boyer. He was born with polio and he saw what we were making
and was like, guys, that would be so useful here. So, what we kind of realised by making
prosthetics like clothes is that you can put in a box and send them to anywhere in the world.
Tell us a little bit about the source of response that you have had from recipients.
They send videos of doing new sports, doing new hobbies, of trying new things, of doing
things that haven't done in years and it's like, I wake up to these every day. That's the most
fulfilling thing I could imagine. So, I mean, the first time we actually went to Sierra Leone,
which was 2021, we're only there for a week and we managed to fit about 20 people with upper
limb loss, which is kind of unheard of. How is that? Very excellent. The polio bull is excellent.
They were just happy to see that there were people paying attention and for us it was amazing because
a completely different culture, but actually what we saw was a lot of the similarities.
A guy called Sullivan, the other son, and in his thing, he didn't need a prosthetic for most things,
but when he says, when I'm walking my son to school, I can't hold his hand when I'm crossing
the road and help him carry his school bag and he said photos afterwards of like, this is great,
this is amazing. So, the last thing we did was train the clinicians that make prosthetics from
the country. There's only four, which is about 20, 25,000 amputees in the country. So, it shows
you the scale of the mismatch of the problem and the funding. So, it's a model that if we get it
right in Sierra Leone, it can scale to literally anywhere on the planet. You can't describe that
feeling of being even just a little bit useful to someone else. We were with approaching 1,000
people around the world. It's the coolest job ever. That was Nate Maccabourg from Kuala.
Now, some of the other things that caught our eye this week. The magnificent return of gymnast
Simone Biles, who broke a 90-year record by winning her eighth all-round title at the US
Gymnastics Championships. Her win came less than a month after the four-time Olympic champion
returned to competition following a two-year break. Her triumph took her ahead of Alfred Joachim,
who claimed his seventh US title in 1933. Some good news for Atlantic Puffins on remote
islands off the coast of Maine in the US. They have had their second consecutive rebound year
for fledging chicks after they suffered a catastrophic 2021. It's partly down to the
abundance of a fish called the sand lance, allowing Puffins to thrive. Now, you might have
heard a report on the Global News podcast about some very eye-catching footage that emerged this
week from Nebraska in the United States. Police there pulled over a man for driving on a motorway
with a huge bull nestled in the passenger seat. Chad Ryman of Norfolk Police explains.
The officers received a call, reference a car driving into town that had a cow in it. They
thought that it was going to be, you know, like a calf, something smaller, something that actually
fit inside the vehicle. There were some sightable issues with that situation. The officer chose
to write him a warning and ask him to take the animal back home. The car actually had half its
roof cut off in order to fit the animal and its magnificent horns in. You can see the footage
on the US and Canada pages of our website, bbcnews.com. And a winner has been declared for
Finland's ugliest vase. It's a thing, apparently. The winner against tough competition was a shiny
gold vase decorated by a pair of fire red roses. Second was purple, decorated with golden ornaments
and a sparkling plastic crystal. Third was an unusual combination of a copper pipe and black
stiffened metal chain. If you want to look and why wouldn't you, I will share using the hashtag
The Happy Pod. Still to come in this podcast. I felt like it's a whole new, like, learning and
fun. It's like a whole new world. What 11-year-old Reese thinks about the new Braille Lego?
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Hi there, this is Camilla Cooley from Sydney, Australia. I live next door to a school,
which at the 8.30, 8.45, 9 o'clock mark of a morning has a sound. It's like letting the
children know that school's about to begin. And the sound is really quite jarring. It's just
really not conducive to children starting out their day at school. And it's not particularly
enjoyable for neighbors like myself. And very recently, I noticed that the sound had changed.
And I imagine the reason the sound changed was to consider that we need to be more welcoming to
children as they start their day. And to acknowledge that maybe for some groups more than others,
a jarring sound can be really off-putting. So this is my sound that makes me happy is the switch
from the jarring emergency type alert sound to a really gentle, warm, welcoming, cheerful chime
to set people on their day. And Andrea from Rome sent us this.
That's the sound of crickets when he works out on his bike in the empty Appia Antica Park.
Thank you, Andrea and Camilla. Now, subsistence fishing is a huge industry,
employing hundreds of millions of people around the world. And it also has a huge carbon footprint.
Now, a team of scientists is developing a solar power bank to help people in the southeast Asian
fishing industry reduce their impact on the environment, improve their own health, and save
money. Jeriza Molina from ShiftTech Marine in the Philippines told us about their project.
These small-time fisher folks usually go out at night. So they need the battery so that they
can power the lights that they need. And what they use usually to power those lights are these heavy,
bulky car batteries that are very, very dangerous, as well as they spend a lot on it. And then they
can just use it for like a few months and then they need to buy again. And well, after our
fisher folks are not able to use them anymore, they just throw it away. So that's terrible for
environment. So we wanted to help these small-time fisher folks get the most out of their living
and then make it safe for them so they can get home. So that's the problem. What is the solution
that you have come up with? We created a safer and more convenient solar power bank. It works
like the usual power bank, but it can be recharged via solar power. So when fisher folks go out into
the sea, they can use the power bank to power their lights. And right now, it lasts around 18 hours.
And then in the morning, they can use the solar charter to power their power bank. And then we
are also working on the wind. So imagine you're in the ocean. It's very cloudy. We can use the
wind power to charge our power bank. And it's really affordable. So our fisher folks spend around
26,000 pesos a year for their artificial battery. But we offer around 10,000 right now.
So what sort of impact is it having on the people who work in this industry and their families?
They're getting more fish out from the sea. That means they can get more income. It's really an
amazing thing to hear about from them. You know, they share that they were able to go to a mall
recently and then to hear that their child has the goal of becoming a doctor and then thinking
that her parents can actually afford that now. And to be able to think that you already have this
impact on such a small family and then to have the possibility that you can give more to other
fisher folks out there, then there may be more children wanting to become a doctor, engineer,
an attorney, and you can be a part of that dream. And it's a very, very good feeling that many people
strive for, yeah.
On a standard brick where you might have six little dots to connect other Lego pieces to,
the Braille bricks correlate to the same as you would read out in Braille. So they would have one
dot, three dots, four dots, five dots, but they also have lettering on the bottom actually printed
to tell you what Braille they correspond to. So an A would be top left corner and that's all you'd
have. You just have one tiny little dot. So it's very much to help someone who wants to learn Braille
to be able to put them out and actually feel the dots as opposed to try and feel the little
dots on a piece of paper.
Does it still work to build things the way that the original Lego does?
It does. And that's the beauty of it. It's still compatible with your original Lego
that you might have lying around or that you play with at home. But the beauty of this is
you kind of learn Braille as you go along. So I've got two young kids who are both into Lego.
They're both sighted. They want to learn Braille because they watch their dad,
but gets to a point where they're just bored. So I found that with Lego Braille bricks,
we can sit down and we can play, but they're actually learning as they go along. So in our
household, it's a win-win.
How important is it for kids who have impaired vision that manufacturers are paying attention
to the sorts of toys and learning devices that they can use and have fun with?
Lego for me is one of those universal games or toys that you can interact with despite
having sight loss. And you can play it with everybody in the household. So I think manufacturers
need to take notes on when they're producing games, making games, to make sure that they're
inclusive and there's a way of being able to play with them with everybody else.
What is the most impressive thing you've ever made from Lego?
Oh, when I was a child, it used to be cities and towns, but now with my kids, it's more
dinosaurs, monsters, anything that's big and that you can destroy within a second.
Eleven-year-old Reese has severe visual impairment and he's been trying out the Braille Lego.
So you can play it whilst you're still learning and it teaches other kids, like my little sister
that's free, she understands it's Lego, you build stuff with it. But I've taught her that
with Lego Braille bricks, she can lay them out and make different words. I felt like it's a whole
new learning and fun. It's like a whole new world. So you've been trying out this stuff.
What sorts of things have you been making? I have been writing a lot of sentences and I made
everyone's name and I have been using them as normal Legos sometimes. You can build cars, houses,
a lot of different things. So if you had to give it stars out of five,
Reese, what would your verdict be? If I could go higher, I'd say like 20, but five.
And Amanda, Reese's mum, he obviously is really enjoying it. What's it like for you as his mum
watching him learn this new thing? To be honest, all different kinds of emotions. I always obviously
feel the pride seeing Reese doing all the different things when it comes to Braille. But it's lovely
to see that he's not only learning, he is playing at the same time. And as he's doing that, he's
pointing it out to his sisters and they're picking it up along the way. So it makes you really happy.
Reese and his mum Amanda. Now time for another sound. This one though came to us not from a listener,
but from our very own political correspondent Rob Watson.
Now Rob has been making sense of the twists and turns of UK politics for a global audience for
many years on the BBC World Service. And while on holiday, he was reminded of our historical
signature theme tune. It used to be the tune that would say, aha, I am listening to the BBC
World Service wherever you were in the world. It was, if you like, the BBC World Service's
signature tune. This obviously was not on the BBC World Service. This was not that particular
rendition. Tell us about this particular piece of music. Well, it was an extraordinary moment. So
I was on my holidays in South Devon on the south coast of England. And I came out of the pub where
I was having, of course, the traditional fish and chips. And an extraordinary sight greeted me. So
it was a troupe of Morris dancers and for those of you who's never seen it, it's a tradition that
dates back to the mid 15th century. It's people dressed in whites. They got bells and handkerchiefs
and they're doing this dances. But it wasn't just the dancers. I was like, hang on a minute. I know
that tune. And it wasn't instantly recognizable. But they could, yeah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
And people Morris dancing to it. I mean, it was just an extraordinary sight. I could just feel
myself light up inside. You know, when you get one of those good feelings, I could feel myself
sort of smiling and thinking, wow, I haven't heard this for a while.
Now, obviously, we normally talk to you about British politics. People might not realize that
you have a cultural hinterland, as it were, you yourself do have an interest in Morris, don't
you? Oh my goodness, Jackie, you've brought it up. I once danced. I think you were there. You
were recording. I once did a bit of Morris dancing in the BBC newsroom. Everyone must have thought
I was mad. I do. So as I mentioned, it's a tradition that that goes back to the mid 15th
century. It sort of went out of fashion in the 19th century as Britain industrialized. But then
in places like Oxfordshire, where I grew up as a boy, it was sort of it was revived. And so
amazingly in the 1960s and 70s, if you were at a sort of humble state primary school that I was at
for people under 11, you learned how to Morris dance. And it was one of the best bits of school.
Every time I hear that music on Mayday in Oxford or a place like South Devon,
the feet start moving and the movement is one, two, three hop, one, two, three hop, one hop,
two hop. And then there you go with the sticks. So I can feel my feet moving.
There really is no end to his talents. That's the BBC Morris Dancing Correspondent, Rob Watson.
And that's it from us for now. Remember, if you would like to be part of the happy pod,
you can email us the sound that brings you joy. We would also love to hear if you have any stories
to share that will make us all smile. As ever, the address is global podcast at bbc.co.uk.
This edition was mixed by Alanna Bowles, the producers were Anna Murphy and Tracy Gordon.
Editor is Karen Martin. I'm Jackie Leonard and until next time, goodbye.
Machine-generated transcript that may contain inaccuracies.
Our weekly collection of the happiest stories in the world. This week, the extraordinary difference a pioneering stem cell treatment has made to one of its patients, the man who saved a toddler as she fell from an apartment block in Italy. And, a chance to hear our politics correspondent, Rob Watson, like you've never heard him before.