Global News Podcast: The Happy Pod: Saved from skin cancer
BBC 6/17/23 - Episode Page - 28m - PDF Transcript
Hello, this is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service with reports and analysis
from across the world. The latest news seven days a week. BBC World Service podcasts are
supported by advertising. Hi, I'm Professor Dan Angus and you're listening to The Happy Pod.
Hi, I'm Dr Graham Siegs and you're listening to The Happy Pod.
A professor and a doctor no less, you heard them. Welcome to The Happy Pod from the BBC World Service.
I'm Jackie Leonard and in this edition we'll be in Australia, Germany, Canada and Colombia,
where a 13 year old girl kept her three younger siblings safe for 40 days in the rainforest.
Leslie, without a doubt, was the one who kept her younger siblings alive. It was a miracle.
Also in this podcast Natasha has full control. She can alter the sails and the direction of the boat
just by a sip and a puff. The girl with cerebral palsy who sailed the Atlantic
using her breath and your favourite sounds. The ripping of velcro, screech of wheels on the floor,
the oofs when people get a nice hit, piercing whistles from the officials.
It makes my heart warm and pumps me up in a multitude of ways.
We begin with a story about observation, investigation and the upside of having a big
internet presence. It all began when Dr Graham Siegs, a skin cancer expert, you might guess
where this is heading, was watching the ABC Evening News at home in Adelaide in Australia.
Professor Daniel Angus from Queensland University of Technology was on and as interesting as his
interview was, Dr Siegs was distracted by the professor's appearance.
I was most interested in the brown spot on Daniel's right cheek, reasonably large,
about a centimetre in diameter and I thought that looked a bit strange and I was very suspicious
that it might be a melanoma. So I googled his name and found that Daniel had many images of his
face on the internet and I was able to look back over the previous few years and discovered that
that spot had not always been there, at least not as large as it was now and that it had been
obviously growing over a period of several years. So I wrote him an email. Daniel, this would be an
odd email to get. Did you consider ignoring it? Yeah, it's a funny one. I do tend to get what I
might term as fan mail occasionally, but yeah, this one, it didn't have, I mean, Graham was very
careful in the way that he emailed it. He included information that for me, it absolutely
checked out it's legitimate and this is someone that if nothing else is just concerned for my
welfare and you know, I had consulted a couple of GPs previously about this, this suspicious spot.
It's been on my face for about 10 years and they kind of waved me off, just said, look, yeah, okay,
it could be something. We're not quite sure, but it was on the back of the information and the
confidence I had in Graham's advice, because with his, you know, additional accreditation,
I thought, look, I really definitely should get this checked out. If someone's seen this,
taken the time to write an email that really sends a strong signal that they are confident that this
is at least worth making another appointment and the dermatologist straight away said, yeah,
Dan, this is troubling and we definitely need to buy Opsia. It did come back as all of the samples
were indicative of a level zero melanoma and Sarchi melanoma. So that's when I got a referral to
our public hospital and they've got an absolutely wonderful kind of plastics team there who did
an absolutely amazing job of taking the whole thing off. How are you now? Look, great. Right.
I mean, this is it's major surgery and you know, it's a considerable, you know, pound of flesh
I've given over off my face, but I will say this one thing that most people that have heard the
story now and I've seen in person are absolutely flabbergasted at how quickly it's healing. I've
just got to say that they have done an absolutely amazing job. The surgical team of doing this,
it'll be a few months until it's fully healed. They're saying that, you know, most of the scar
itself will be, you know, largely invisible to anyone passing. And yeah, I mean, I'm not someone
who's too kind of hung up on my looks anyway, but yeah, incredibly happy with with the work
they've done. Well done to the doctors and staff who looked after you. Graham, is this
an occupational hazard for you? Do you find yourself involuntarily giving everybody a
once over when you meet them? Quite commonly when I'm out in the public, I look at people's
spaces and if they've got an obvious spot there, then I do take notice. I hone in on things. I
guess that's part of my job really. And I don't always speak to people about it. If I'm highly
suspicious, then I might sort of tap them on the shoulder. Often in a supermarket checkout line,
I might do see something on the back of someone's neck that they may not be aware of. So I just
let them know. So Dan, is there anything you would like to say to Graham? I express then,
I'll express again here, it just not a lot you can say in a circumstance like this other than
express a huge amount of gratitude. You feel in a moment like this, a second wind that you may have
just kind of avoided an otherwise bad fork in a road. It's an opportunity to kind of take that and
I don't do something positive with it, pay it forward in some way. So yeah, I mean, Graham,
I said it before, but I just owe you a massive debt of thanks. Certainly after the all clear.
Yeah, I had a spring in my step and it certainly is a credit to the eagle eye of Graham and to
take the time and craft that email and kind of tap me on the shoulder is it's going above and beyond
really. Will you be sending each other Christmas cards? I might be sending more than a card to
Graham this year. Some of my colleagues have joked saying, is that all you get a beer and a hug?
You haven't tasted my home brew beer yet, Graham. I'll wait and you can reserve judgment on that one.
Professor Daniel Angus and Dr Graham Sigs in Australia and two more medical stories that we
saw this week that are worth nodding to. First of all on polio, a genetically engineered polio
vaccine is showing positive data in its first stage human trials. It's designed to keep the virus
used in the vaccine from mutating into a dangerous form by keeping it in its most weakened state.
The scientists behind it are hoping the change could finally wipe polio out. And secondly,
good news for Danistus Cungae, a former army sergeant in Sri Lanka who has been relieved
of the world's largest kidney stone. The stone removed by army doctors weighs 800 grams,
more than five times the weight of an average male kidney, and it's even been recognized by Guinness
World Records. Now around this time last week, the world breathed a sigh of relief.
Four children have been found alive more than a month after their plane crash.
Four Colombian children found alive in the Amazon rainforest 40 days after a plane crash.
Their mother and the two pilots died in the crash and the children aged 13, 9, 4 and 1
had to fend for themselves. The children belong to the Witoto indigenous group and after signs
were spotted that they were alive, a huge search operation was launched which involved over 200
soldiers and members of the indigenous community. The calm leadership of Leslie, the eldest, has
been praised. This is the children's grandmother speaking after they were found.
When her mother was working, she always looked after them. She gave them food.
They knew which fruits to eat in the rainforest. I'm thankful to Mother Earth.
I never let my guard down, me or their grandpa. We prayed all night.
We spoke to General Pedro Sanchez who led Operation Hope and he explained exactly what Leslie had to
do. Leslie without a doubt was the one who kept her younger siblings alive. She managed to get
her younger sister out of the arms of her mother who died. She caught her other siblings out too.
She found things to keep them alive. She found one of the food packs we threw down from the
helicopters. The rainforest is a paradise but it's also very hostile territory.
They're wild animals, jaguars and venomous snakes. Trees of up to 20 to 30 meters,
you can get lost in 20 meters and the forest is so dense that you can be swallowed by it.
It was a miracle not only did they survive the initial impact of the crash
but then the 40 days it took to find them. At one point there were 115 soldiers and 93 indigenous
guards searching and we found them because their footprints were next to the paw prints
of Wilson, one of our dogs involved in the search. He was with them and looked after them but then
got lost. In fact at the moment we're still looking for Wilson as one soldier never abandons another.
General Pedro Sanchez who has since become the godfather to the youngest of the family
and he was speaking to the BBC. All four children are in a stable condition and receiving treatment
in Bogotá, Colombia's capital. Now a little secret, I like tea. I really like tea. I like it so much
in fact that I usually have not one but two cups of black tea on the go at any one time and it seems
I'm not alone. John from Ireland sent in that recording to share the sound of tea being poured
from his old red Polish teapot. He says it's not the same if it's a teabag in a mug filled from the
kettle. I hear you John but you might prefer coffee like Luca Cordelli who sent us this.
This is the sound of a mocha making his coffee. This is the sound that makes me really happy
every morning during all my life. Apparently I'm not the only one. 60% of Italians according to a
recent survey put the sound of the mocha in the morning as one of the best sounds in their life.
I'm going to enjoy my coffee now. Bye. I think we enjoy coffee as well. Did your school have a prom?
It's a milestone that many people look back on fondly when they reminisce about their school days,
memories of dressing up, dancing with friends and celebrating the end of an era and an unusual
prom has taken place in Quebec High School in Quebec City where the senior students decided
senior citizens deserved a party too. Come in, come in. We can sit where we want. In my word I'm
happy to meet everybody. It's beautiful. Everything's beautiful. The girls in the dresses and
they look so nice. We've been chatting away with each one of them and what they want to do when
they grow up. We're trying to find out why they invited us. Elsa Meeker, a Dutch exchange student,
was one of the pupils who helped to organize the event. We were in leadership class and we were
supposed to do a project and we were just googling fun ideas and then I think it was Chloe that came
up with oh we should do a prom for senior citizens and we have two proms and we were like
such a good idea so then we started setting it up and contacting the elite homes and then
it all went rolling yeah. They're just the most respectful people in the world and they make
me smile even when I see a person in the bus or whatever. I always greet them and it really
yeah it reminds me of my grandparents too. It's just really nice and I'm really happy that it all
happened so yeah a lot of reasons to smile the whole time. Some of the guests brought keepsakes
from their own school days to show the current students. Steve brought along his slide rule,
an old-fashioned tool used to multiply and divide that he has carried with him ever since his days
in the classroom. I'm sure there's something from the past. Have you ever seen that? That looks
familiar. It's actually just adding logarithms, the logarithms in here and that's how you
multiply before calculators. I went through secondary school and high and university.
I see you brought some photos too. Yeah I have all kinds of things that's my graduation dress
and they're friends. This was our identification card. I graduated here in 56, 57. Wow. Is it my ring
and my pin? I have several of these. They were the prizes and they have the crest on it which was
kind of nice but when I opened this one I had really had to laugh. It was for punctuality in
attendance. I guess we weren't allowed to steal. I'll have a great prom.
Still to come.
Why Mongolian women are joining the long song tradition.
The Explanation is the podcast from the BBC World Service that goes beyond the spin exploring
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explanation of the events shaping our lives. Search for the explanation wherever you get your BBC
podcasts. A lot of people around the world are trying to move towards cleaner greener transport
indeed most of the major manufacturers are getting in on developing their own electric vehicles
but it isn't just the big corporations. Let's meet Yehia El Bakali co-founder and CEO of a new
Anglo-Moroccan technology company called the Atlas E-Mobility Group who has big plans to create
the first African designed and engineered electric car. There's a lot going on on the global stage
but when it comes to Africa in particular there are not so many initiatives. If you look for
example at China there are currently over 600 EV ventures. If you look at the US there is over
200 EV ventures but if you look at African continents there are not so many initiatives
around electrification and electric vehicles so that was actually brought our inspiration to take
this initiative and I think if we don't make an initiative ourselves as Africans we can't be
expecting other car makers to come and rescue us so it should be our own initiative to create
something for the continents and beyond. The continent's population is increasing massively
and it's expected to reach 2 billion people by 2050. The average age in Africa is about 19 years
old so there is a huge young population there and there are so many talents so many untapped
opportunities and resources so the question is actually why not why not take an initiative
and create something that makes African people proud. And it's interesting because as you say
there is this global push towards trying to create electric vehicles and to move away from
the regular fossil fuels. What do you anticipate the difficulties being in creating electric
vehicles and a market for electric vehicles in Morocco? I mean for us the main three challenges
that we find that consumers actually facing when they try to buy an EV is first the range anxiety,
second the charging infrastructure availability and third is the affordability. So these are
really the three key challenges that the consumer face. Building a car company is definitely challenging
but of course that brings with it that excitement of overcoming challenges every time.
Yahya Elbakali, CEO of the Atlas E-Mobility Group. Velcro whistles and the sound of
that's what brings joy to one listener. Amanda Mayurovich from Germany is a roller derby fanatic
who got in touch to tell us what gets her heart pumping. All right are you ready? Bear city on
three. One, two, three. Bear city! There's just like this electric feeling of excitement in the air
and when you hear people skating around you hear the wheels on the floor you hear people trying to
do different kinds of stops or hit each other or it's the rip of the velcro and screeching of
the wheels the the whistles are just so uplifting and I'm I have shivers right now because I'm just
like so excited but yeah and then when it's a big tournament like that just hearing so many people
in the arena or wherever it is cheering everyone on because I think that's another thing that's
amazing about roller derby is that all of the fans cheer for everyone that's not necessarily
like us versus them I know for me whenever I'm cheering I cheer on and I say hey that was a
really great hit even if you hit me one of our goals is to just stay happy and positive and
excited. I think when I haven't gone to practice for a while I definitely notice a difference in
how I am like that's definitely an outlet that I use to get so much of my energy and
emotions out and it's a great way to like get out your frustration or even if I'm like really really
happy or excited it's the outlet so that all of the emotions and feelings are not just built up
inside of me. Nice job. Good game. Good game. Good game. Good game. Thank you. Good game.
And our thanks to Amanda for that. Now imagine sailing a 46 foot yacht and controlling it
with your breath. Natasha Lambert is 17 and has cerebral palsy she can't use her arms and legs
so her engineer dad invented the technology that helped her sail the Atlantic. Rachel Burden
has been speaking to Natasha her dad Gary and mum Amanda. What was it about sailing that you love
did you feel a certain freedom on a boat? Definitely lots of freedom you love being outdoors the
weather the wind the rain everything. So this was a passion then that your mum and dad obviously
felt that they really wanted to encourage but it was also about practically speaking how you
managed to operate a boat yourself right? And then that's where your dad Gary steps in
so he's quite handy with this kind of stuff. Do you know much about boat sailing Gary?
When we started I knew nothing about boat sailing so it's all I can tell because Natasha's
absolutely laughing all over the place here for suggestion. So no we weren't a sailing family
when this all started so we had to learn quite rapidly we learned that there were no experts
in the controls that Natasha needed so it was down to us to me it was down to me to develop it
and and get it to where it is. So who else is in the boat what does the boat look like how does it
work? It's a 46 foot catamaran this is the boat we cross the Atlantic in and there was the four of
us our family and we also had another four crew on board we were sailing for 18 days day and night
and Natasha what about your role in all of this? Natasha basically makes the decisions
we put all the information in front of her and then she makes decisions and we carry them out so
she's skipper. And Natasha what's this about you steering the boat with your breath is that an
accurate way of describing it? It is Natasha has a small tube that is held in place in a helmet
and that works the controls of the boat it's wicked so Natasha has full control she can alter
the sails and the direction of the boat just by a sip and a puff. It's extraordinary so Natasha
what next around the world? She says she's going to give up. She'd like to do a Pacific crossing.
Amazing. Natasha Lambert and family who sailed the Atlantic using a sip and a puff.
Dave from London is a massive Bruce Springsteen fan and he also happens to have Parkinson's
disease and he says the boss has helped him with his symptoms. My happy sound is the sound of Bruce
Springsteen when he first walks out on stage. I diagnosed with Parkinson's 12 years ago and
rather than celebrate my parkyversary I was diagnosed with something downbeat and feeling
sad. I normally see Bruce Springsteen somewhere in the world so I've travelled to Cape Town
I've been to Perth Australia I've been to New York to see Bruce and the moment he walks out
on stage the optimistic energy is just brilliant. The crowd are all quiet then the lights dip and
you just see this shadowy figure walk out from the back of the stage and you see Bruce and he says
hello wherever you are in the world you know hello Edinburgh hello London hello New York
and then just goes straight into the track and that that moment just sends me wild
tears in my eyes and goosebumps all over. It's the Bruce Springsteen the moment he walks out
on stage and greets the crowd it's just a magical moment and it sets you up for the night and I
went to see my specialist after a Bruce Springsteen concert. He jokingly said I'm going to prescribe
three Bruce Springsteen concerts a year to you because you're in such good form after seeing
him it's amazing so that's my happy sound Bruce walking out on stage cheers. Dave has seen Bruce
Springsteen 22 times in total you'll be jetting to Sweden to see him at the end of June and Bruce
if you're listening fancy a chat with the happy pod well it's worth a try and now let's end with some
song some long song to be precise for centuries a Mongolian celebration would be nothing without
this genre of music which gets its name not just from the length of the pieces but also because
each syllable of each word is extended a four-minute melody for example may consist of only 10 words
until very recently long song was mostly performed by men and women were actually forbidden from
singing some of those songs but times are changing with the Mongolian tourism board now inviting
women to showcase their cultural heritage. Hello my name is Orindhya I'm a singer of long song
tonight is a closing ceremony of an international conference organized by the government
as part of their campaign welcome to Mongolia it's a big event and I'll be singing long song at the climax
long song is a type of music that's been performed for more than a thousand years by nomadic people
in Mongolia it's one of our most distinctive and special art forms and that's why it's been chosen
to show off our country at this event when I was little I'd listen to long song at family gatherings
it would be sung at weddings at springtime when the horses had had a new fall and I loved it
my grandpa was one of the best long song singers in our family and so I'd sit at his knee and listen
to it because of that connection I decided I wanted to be a long song singer too long song is
part of nomadic life it's traditionally been sung by men on horseback as they rode for hours
across the countryside Mongolia has been a patriarchal society since the time of Genghis Khan
even till recently there were some songs that were forbidden for women to sing
but times are changing and perceptions are changing and today in many parts of Mongolia
there are many more young female long song singers than men I think women's voices are received
better here in Mongolia and across the world there's something about the female voice when it
sings long song that just seems to touch people men have a bigger vocal range and that can be very
impressive to show off but musically there's something very distinctive and different about the way
women long song singers breathe and the pure beauty of the sound it's very special in my career
I've been invited to more than 40 countries to sing long song promoting Mongolia as a country
and showing off our cultural heritage it makes me feel very proud and I'm really looking forward to
seeing more women singing long song across the world in the future
the beauty of Mongolian long song
and that's it from us for now if you would like to get involved in the happy pod we would love
to hear from you send us the sound that brings you joy the address is global podcast at bbc.co.uk
you can also find us on twitter at global news pod this edition was mixed by Javid Gilani the
producers were Phoebe Hobson Tracy Gordon and Anna Murphy the editor is Karen Martin I'm Jackie
Leonard and until next time goodbye
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Our weekly collection of the happiest stories in the world. This week, thanks for the eagle eyed doctor in Australia who spotted a serious medical problem on a TV interview and issued a very timely warning. Praise in Colombia for the big sister who kept her little siblings alive in the jungle after their plane crashed. And the Mongolian women re-invigorating an old art-form for the twenty-first century.
Presented by Jackie Leonard. Music produced by Iona Hampson.