SmartLess: "Rob Lowe"

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Most meek laugh you can do will go ahead

Okay, Sean meek laugh

Don't I can't just blow your nose we're recording

Talk about wait, I didn't say do the most meek nose blowing you can do

You nailed it

Yeah, I sneezed right before but how about every time every time you have like a slight cough or see how about every time you sneeze in public now

Anybody who anybody freaks out everybody. They look at you like what's your problem? Why are you even out of the house?

I'm like, well, it's just people they look at you like you're a war criminal

But I guess I'm guilty of that too. I know if somebody coughs more than once

Right if they cough twice, I'm like I give them I try to get eye contact with them like are you okay?

I said, is this something I need to worry about or I

Still get surprised at the people who cough and don't especially after everything we've been through who still just cover your mouth

That's all I ask. Yeah. Yeah, or just into the shirt

I used to think into the shirt was super gross, but you know what? It's it's a it's a nice gesture

It'll leave a spot, but it's better than getting someone sick what depends on this shirt, right and the blood content in your cough

I mean, what do you mean a spot? Um, I had a friend over last night that he was waiting

He was like congested and I'm like, what why did you come over? He's like, I'm not sick. I'm not sick

Yeah, and look you woke up blowing your nose. So why I just had at least worth it Sean you old war horse

We missed you all we can I know did you go Sunday? Yeah, we went we went we went

I didn't go Sunday because granddad pulled his back. He pulled his back

Everybody was calling into question whether everybody kept going. Yeah, just pull this back

No, it's not it's not great. I was I'm

In a shame to say it is a golf injury

I was simply leaning over to address the ball about to swing not even swinging and it just slid out. Yeah, I

Yeah, that's painful, but then D on finiff our our our incredible friend love golfer

NHL star yeah gave me some of his

CBD cream. I use that. Let's plug it. Yeah, it's a canny, right?

Can he can he ease or can he something get it right because you're now you're

Candy 1200 I think it's called candy golf. Can I can I 1200? Can he not pull his back out over 50?

I mean, I'm gonna get the right word there the right title and we're gonna

We're gonna plug it you're I mean, do you think the fact that you were just addressing the ball?

Obviously you're brittle and you have no nutrients in your body. Do you think that that is of

Concerned you do you are you worried about snapping some of your limbs at any point because I mean you have you have

There's literally nothing holding you together anymore, right? It's not true

I wish I was as thin as you think I am we saw a guy as thin as I should be for the

Lack of food. I mean, do you remember this about a year ago? We were playing with

Chuck day and Mack Laney and those guys up up there in the valley and we sit there's a guy on this other on this other hole

I don't know maybe

93 and he was just God bless him. He's making his way around this guy this old old old timer and

He shuffled up to the ball and he was leaning over and I just look over and I point and Jason just goes

That's not me motherfucker

That's you I would have thought it was you that's you now that's Jason you are so thin. What are you talking about?

I am so not what are you talking about? I'm sorry, but I 70 pounds. You're very thin

Yeah, I just don't have any muscle mass because I'm not out there

I'm not okay blasting backs and buys on Tuesdays and Thursdays pushing weight. You fucking jar. Why don't you yeah?

Oh, yeah lifting weight. Yeah, yeah moving weight has there's there's no science that says it's good for you as you get old

Oh, hang on a second. Look it up. Yeah, by the way, here's an update on the sweaters. I was I talked to Alex and

We're moving on to sweaters. Well, remember remember we talked about my mom knitting sweaters for you guys

Oh, yeah, and so I guess

Do with pushing weight or just talking about getting older because here you'll hear why oh and she says okay

Well, listen, I'm gonna need she text me out of the blue as she does just apropos of nothing

I'm gonna need sizes and blah blah blah and I'm gonna guess that Sean is a little slider is a little slimmer than Jason

Oh god now, you know, she just mixed up the names. That's all. Yeah

It's just that like Sean looks slimmer

Mm-hmm, and and you're right

I mean you are and I will I will go on record saying you're very skinny and stuff

But you just you're never gonna lose that look you have the look

You're so right I that's the problem

I wasn't born with a beautifully angled face like you with great bone structure and super hero Jim

And I am I am doughy. I am round. I am I am I came out puffy. Okay

No, you didn't you didn't you both have chiseled good-looking faces. I'm on camera, John

By the way, you want to talk about a chiseled good-looking face here

Me tell you something guest you better not look puffy after that intro check your lighting right now

Don't worry. He won't I've never seen him look puffy and I've never seen him look bad. It's impossible for him and he is

Just and and he's maintained it for so long

Which is really admirable on top of which the really most admirable thing about him is that how well he's maintained a career

That has spanned decades for decades. This guy has been at the top of the list

It is unbelievable. Oh, we know we knew when we were we're talking about an angular again

Again, we know I'm so I can't I gotta be really careful because I just want to get a little bit of

Before you guys start before you start guessing you don't know Robert Pattinson and he doesn't want to know you

I know but he has no interest in seeing you, but this guy Robert even Robert Pattinson looks up to this guy

Well, I'm defa this guy has done everything. He's done every

The top of the game in film and television. He's done some of the most iconic films some of the most iconic television

He's been nominated for two Emmys six Golden Globes for SAG Awards

Which he's won two he's started so many 80s classics

He was part of what was then known as here. We go the brat pack

He's been in same hours about last night. This is Robert. West Wing Parks and Recreation. It's our friend

Wait a minute. Why are you on set right now? He's in a cop. Listener. He's got a cop uniform on yeah

It's it's a fireman's uniform. Yes. It's a fireman. Sorry. I told the whole crew. Yeah, I said I got to go see my boys

I got to go see yeah

See see my guy. This is so lovely. He's on the he's on the set of

9-1-1 Lone Star which is the show that he stars in and he produces in your fourth season

You're shooting your fifth season, maybe we are

Almost done with season four

I see clips of that show and I'm tired looking at like I guess it looks like watching our episode you rude bastard

What try watching a full episode?

Yeah, wait watch the episodes don't watch the clips the clips don't like the promos

I mean the promos and I look and I see your face. I'm like god Rob

Just finished a 15-hour day on that episode like it's just looks so like

Do you sleep in olive oil Rob? Is there a mattress that's got a zip-in olive oil pouch that you sleep? I know look at the best skin in the world

Um, I I'm an Olympic sleeper. Yeah, I think that we've talked about I I get a lot of sleep

But I mean I have shame around how much I sleep. I because

Makes you still sleep like you're a teenager. Yes, how many hours is that what time? What time are you in the rack every night, Rob?

Well today I had to I had to be in the car at 5 15 in the morning

Now but but as you know, I live in Santa Barbara, so and I get I'm lucky enough to be driven so I can sleep in the car

So I get an extra hour and a half in the car, but I'm I'm I was in bed at 9

30 last night, okay, and you're and then you're up it. So what time you getting up for a 5 15 get in the car?

5 14 truly 5 14 because I don't really know now

You're gonna get you're gonna get my typical morning questions now, and I'm gonna try to keep this clean

But well, but hang on now. Why are you leaving the house without a shower or without emptying yourself?

You're doing that in your trailer

All of that. I don't I don't do the morning shower. I do the I do the nighttime shower

Nice, I get that I do the nighttime so then what do you do about your bedhead then you you let the people in the way?

And the makeup hair trailer do that all that that's that's what the professionals are for

Isn't it nice if you can hold it Sean?

Save yourself you could

You could save yourself an hour if you don't do makeup and you do your own hair before you leave the house

How does it save me an hour that costs me an hour that makes it and that means I have to wake up earlier

Yeah, that's true. God. That's great math. God. Isn't it nice to take a shower at night? Yeah

It makes you feel like a kid. I take sometimes take a shower put my pajamas on watch TV

And then you go straight to be brush your teeth to go to bed. Oh, yeah, no, I look forward to going to sleep

I'm like I do love that. Yeah now Rob

You know you're an incredibly talented actor you can't get this far without being a really good actor

did it ever bother you that like

It seems like the only people that get real good accolades as an actor are those that look like character actors

You don't you look like a leading man

Was it ever frustrating to you that you didn't get the character roles because you were born with leading man looks?

Well, first of all, thank you for saying that and I do feel like I'm a character actor trapped in a leading man's body

Well, look at Austin Powers. You were hysterical in Austin Powers. Well, thank you

It's a long list and when I when I get to you know, I'm

Johnny Depp's made a career of not you know, he's so handsome, but he wears prosthetics and stuff and so he gets to do these

insane

Characters and I I every time I've been able to do that. I found it very freeing

But yeah, let's talk about that because your trajectory is been

It's so hard. I mean everybody's got their own sort of path that they have but yours is gone through

So many different areas and and I was a lot of people have peaks and valleys

You haven't even had any valleys

It's been sort of like from peak to peak and you've just kind of jumped you started in and I mentioned sort of the Brad

Pack, but you started in was was the outsider is your first big film was my first movie period

I mean, I okay, so yeah, talk about that talk about how you got it

And how it came about and what it was like. I mean Jesus. I wish you guys had been

You know in in that mix you would have it was it was an incredible thing and all of us

Who went through it or it's like bonded or like band of brothers because?

Coppola put us through such an arduous insane and I think actually illegal screen actors Guild wise

type of

boot camp

Really went on for months months and months and months

Mixing and matching and you'd go into this soundstage and there'd be like Mickey Rourke

with roller skates on stinking like an animal and

And being treated like he was then the Marlon Brando reincarnated and then you'd have Scott Bayo

Coming in in a limousine and telling Francis he had to get back to a show and Francis going what show?

And he goes happy days and Francis going. What's that? Oh my god, and then you'd have like Ricky Schroeder and

You know Dennis Quaid and I mean just anybody and everybody

So he was doing like mixing and matching or were these like kind of forced bonding kind of

chemistry reads

The the first bonding came later the but these were mix and matches with everybody present

So you showed up everybody showed up at eight o'clock in the morning and you left it

You know seven o'clock at night, and you just sat on the floor and he would go okay. I want to see Dennis Quaid with

Henry Thomas and

Ricky Schroeder and you know, whatever Wow, it's wild Wow. What was the name of your character again?

It wasn't soda pop soda soda. Yes soda pop

You know, it's really cool about the outsiders is as every you know

It's it's part of the seventh grade curriculum. Yeah of almost every school in the country

So every year there's a new group of seventh graders who get introduced to

to not only to the outsiders, but the you know, like soda pop

That's super cool and look at you now from soda pop to cop

I literally just had a guy send me a text this morning and he said

Stay gold pony boy

Literally said that on a text this morning from Harry Chung will oh, yeah. Yeah, I like Harry

I was about to lay in whoever did it, but I like Harry a lot. He's a friend. He's a good man

He's a good man

So so I remember when you were in contact

I remember when you were in contact and it was like that's one of my favorite movies of all time

Yeah, and and I was like and you showed up on screen. I was like wait, that's that's Rob Lowe

I was like, I don't know 22 years old when it came out. I was like wait Rob Lowe was in this movie

That's so crazy and amazing like you like to Will's point you would take no peak

Just all peaks right no valleys and you would appear even if it was the smallest role or a leading role or whatever

There were always seems at the police the perception was that they're all super high quality movies and TV shows totally

And by the way, sometimes with Sean Robb as you know, as you know

Sometimes it's like having it like a kid come in because he just goes I remember when you were in contact

You're like, okay, man

We're not just fucking doing freeform. Just whatever pops into our fucking head Jesus Christ

I remember one time I saw you in a fucking what man?

Jesus

I remember a billboard one

Three of us he was nominated for the host of the singled out but but Rob but Rob is single out singled out

Pulled out of the the trifecta. No, is this true? This is amazing. No, it's true

100% true. Yeah

The best host of a podcast. Well, there's three of us, you know, nope just Sean

That is the greatest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah, he didn't win

Okay, that's why I've ever heard why

Missed it because they finally went and listened to it and then they were like, oh shit not him

But but Rob so you do like the outsiders and it is true as Sean says and what we were saying which is like you do all these

Things that are amazing that have that each one of them have a place in

You know culturally a place in

Everybody's lives whether it's it's

The outsiders and then say no most fire

Which I just saw I just watched it for the first time ever. Are you serious?

What do you got?

Never saw it. I watched it like no, he's saying are you serious that you're just interrupting and get with the blur. Sorry

So so you do the outsiders. What was what was film number two after the outsiders?

Which was a big sensation and every we all saw it. What was the next thing?

What was the move when that came out? Was it like you had everything offered to you?

All of us all of us got a lot of a lot of offers. I mean, I think

Tom

Did the best with it because he followed it up with risky business

And then that was you know the beginning for him

I did a movie called class with andrew mccarthy and jashlin beset. Yes. Oh, I know it well

Good for you rob. All right. Yeah, great for you. Okay class act right was going on there. Okay, you know, no

No, no, you don't have to admit anything on this podcast. You just keep going with your answer

I thought I have something I want to say about contact after will gets there

Oh, holy fuck

I love that he's obsessed with contact. I had two lines in it, but it's good. Love it. I'm obsessed with you in it, too

Obsessed well, I used it obsessed and it's his favorite movie of all time. Go figure. Hey, listen rob. So if you do

Thanks to star trek sometimes it's like you just gotta breathe. They're right. You just do you have to finish your juice box, Sean

so

So rob so you do you do class with uh with andy mccarthy jackland beset. Yep. Yeah, jackland beset and then

What was after then it's um Sean's favorite act actor jody foster

Yes, can I say something about that hotel new hampshire? Oh and hotel new hampshire was going to be

That was the one everybody all the young actors wanted to do because they thought it was going to be oscar type movie because in those days

um

However, you want to call the brat back movies teen movies john hughes movies whatever you want to call them. They they were like

The guilty pleasure of the movie business

Like today they'd be straight movies. There'd be no guilt associated with them at all. In fact, they'd be the tent pole

But in those days it was like

Terms of endearments the real movie this year. Okay, and oh you're doing that that look that that trifle over here

Like that's the way it was. That's what it was. It was it was very segregated in that way, but hotel new hampshire felt like

a real movie

Of course, then it came out the same weekend as splash

And that was the end of it. Oh, wow. Isn't that a john erving?

It's a john erving book. Yeah. Yeah, and and it did I remember when that came out. What was that like?

Here he goes 85 84 83 83 late 83

Oh, so so I know I missed up on that one. I'm usually a really good movie spot on just inside the same decade

Was just incredible that but but so you do but you did I know that you're sort of you're saying that these are the films

That were the tribe, but these were the films that people were going to see

That all of us were going to see, you know, I mean, I wasn't uh, I wasn't a huge student of the cinema

yet

And and those are the movies that wanted to go see I wanted to go see you guys in those

I wanted to go see young blood by the way as a canadian. Yeah, yeah, dude

Rob, let's talk about young blood for a second. I'm not a quick five for us

sure

Yeah, go ahead. Rob talk about it. Yeah, go ahead young blood is

It's I think it might be this the second best hockey movie at first is slap shot. Let's face it slap shot

It's one of the greatest movies ever made by the ducks by the ducks. No, I'm throwing down. I'm sorry. I'm not having it

No, I'm just not having it. No, I'm with Rob. I'm with Rob

Now, yeah, young blood is fun because whenever I get to go to a hockey game

People are super excited

Because there aren't that many hockey movies

There aren't that many if you're a hockey band. There aren't all that many really. No, dude

And we we loved as a canadian we loved young blood and and and I would say this

Slap shot maybe because it came before and paul newman, etc

But they're kind of different. They fall into different categories within hockey

So it's in terms of like a pure hockey movie. That's not a comedy. That's right

Young blood is the best in that regard. So they're very different, but yeah pure hockey pretty pure young hockey player

I mean they all everybody's played hockey has has worn

That movie out because because it's about coming up into the league. So now were you were you a good skater?

We had were you playing hockey at that time? No, I was horrible. I I mean I I could Rockefeller Center

Date hold hands skate right and so I had it was the first time I ever

Had a trainer or I had to work out and we and I Swayze was my co-star Patrick Swayze and we we trained

every day for I went as almost eight weeks

Six six hours a day brutal brutal brutal training and I got to be pretty good on skates at that point

Wow, and Keanu and Keanu

Was in it too. No as the goalie. He was the goalie. I thought he was an actual french canadian goalie

He was right. We had him on the on the podcast. We just had him on the podcast. He was a goalie. He was a goalie. Yeah

Yeah, there you go. Someone listens. Do you remember interacting with Keanu back then and thinking like oh, this kid's gonna do something

Like do you have anything like that?

Well, I'm telling you and this is no slight to Keanu Reeves who I adore

I thought he was a french canadian goalie. Wow. Wow. I thought

By which which probably tells you all you need to know because I thought he was the real thing. That's how good he is

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Well on the same sort of question on on outsiders

Could it was it clear to you or if you had to bet on one of those horses to to

Have the kind of longevity that you ended up having in your career

Who'd you think was going to be the horse I bet on pony boys the horse? I mean

Yeah, I mean

Again and it's funny because you tom has obviously

Become you know a legendary legendary actor and I'm not sure you would have

Um

Back in the day, but he had he had such drive

such

He had an intensity that none of us have and then taps. I think put him over the top right or was

Taps was right before

Taps it made him. Yeah, and and he was so good in that move

I got it taps was my first Hollywood from big Hollywood premiere. That was that I remember that movie really knocking me out

Yeah, wait, can we go like go back to go back to contact sure and so on contact

No, I want but like didn't see what you scared

Did you think the aliens were really coming out? He's all hopped up on apple juice now go and let him go

Do it

Just well no well since you brought it up at the content, but I want to know I want to go back

Yep

Before the outsiders, but I just want to get this out about contact my favorite line in the movie

You are the worst go ahead

Only person I know I get drunk on apple juice

Just swerving all over the podcast

I am dying. I can't pull over and take a nap

I can't believe you're torturing Rob like this. I wanted to get out my favorite line in contact

Which was Jody Foster and Matthew

Well, McConaughey was in it

Yeah, Jody Foster Matthew McConaughey, and I think it's like the second time they kiss in the movie

And Jody pulls away and she's and her first line. I'm not making this up is I'm so confused

And that's your favorite

I'm gonna go to your nomination for this year. So no Jody Foster's a friend and she would laugh at that. So

Fuck me. I want to go back. You're literally crying. Will is literally crying

I've laughed her Rob. You've got your own podcast. You can see you see it's not easy, right? It's not easy at all

You got to deal with

Anyway, this is why I do mine alone exactly if you deal with the nonsense. Thank you

No, I don't want to I love you too so much. Um, so Robbie before the outsiders

We kind of just skipped over like I don't know anything about your like pastor. You tell like

How did you get that? I'd like wasn't that such a huge deal to what were you doing before that like theater or anything?

I I was doing theater when I lived in Ohio was my family lived there

I was eight years old and I went and saw a local school production and fell in love with

The kid like, you know, like I was like, I want to do that and my parents like, yeah, sure whatever

So you let you had a love for it when it when you were super young?

Super young. It's all I ever wanted knew exactly what I wanted to do. Wow. Isn't that wild?

But you couldn't you couldn't pursue it in Ohio, right? Was it was there a move out to Los Angeles that that triggered like, okay

I want to I actually want to do this now

Well, my thing was I'm gonna do I did every sort of university. There was there was a

A traveling. Oh god, this thing called the Kenley players. You got to look this up guys. It's the best

We should make a movie about this the kind of players. It would be summer professional summers. It's like waiting for guffman

but real John Kenley was

Musical theater producer lived as a woman in

florida

During part of the year and then was John Kenley in the Midwest and of course the midwestern people were never the wiser

And he he would get whoever's the hottest TV star and put them in Camelot or something like that

And then they would tour Dayton Cincinnati

Akron Columbus Flint, Michigan

And you'd like Henry Winkler would come and just crush

for four weeks in the summer

And you'd you'd see like Vic Tabak

in Manila Mancha

Or and it was it was the most delicious sandy Duncan is Peter Pan. Of course

Yes, I thought Jason's old co-star

Oh, yeah

Wait, so so Rob, but that that's a good point. So you do it. So you're doing this thing this this this touring

Theater thing which it does sound amazing and

And then what how what do I say in my Paul Lynn stories? Well, let's go. Yeah, look at you you little jiblet

That actually sounded more like Charles Nelson Riley. No the mix of the two

This is definitely a mix of one of my favorite Paul Lynn lines on Hollywood Square squares was um, they the host said

Okay for the center square for the X Paul

When a man falls over a boat you yell man overboard. What do you yell when a woman falls over a boat? And he goes

false beta had

Oh, wait, wait, how did you where did you encounter Paul in first of all Rob? Oh

The Kenley players

Not on Hollywood Square. Did you ever do Hollywood squares?

No, I did the 10,000. This is how long it was a long ago. It was the 10,000 dollar pyramid before it was 25 or 100

Yes, yeah with Dick Clark and that was a that was my first trip to to New York

The publicity trip and I played against Tony Danza

And I eviscerated him

I once took Tony Danza deep at the Hollywood stars night

Uh, no way. Yeah, he threw a little cookie over the plate and I took it out to right center field

I love that. Yep past the sprinting leuphorigno

Uh-huh inside the park home run

Then they what you went around the bases on a gurney or what you probably pulled something for that at that time

I was I was I was pretty pretty limber. You really were not 18. I love those old

The old time Dodger Hollywood stars. I the first one I played in it was such a huge thrill. It was 1979

And I stepped up to the play that now aboutting rob load

No, no way

and

It was amazing and I think I might have walked got in a field was choice to first base or whatever

And and I was like super because in those days it was super competitive actually and then at a certain point

It devolved into high jinks and then you'd get

Kareem Abdul Jabbar pitching to Billy Barty

Right with a huge with with a large with a huge bat. That's right. Yes. And that's what happened and then it all but it was that was my

Moment at the hollow. I talked to Kimmel about this sometimes like we should approach them and and and ask them if they

If they would be interested in in us just sort of just like

Let's make this thing overhand again, you know fast pitch baseball because like now I think it's like softball

They bring in a fence and

We should get it back to listen. I'm gonna make that if you're down

Jason's like, how can we set the fun back out of it? You know what I mean?

Do you ever hear Rob? Do you ever hear about the golf trip we went on last year and Jason on our way there?

We were like eight of us and Jason's like, okay, here's the deal. Everybody has to put everything out

We're gonna keep score. It's gonna be and everybody gets score over four days and everybody's like, hey, man

Oh, we haven't even started the the trip yet and he's already want to take the fun out

Um, wait, so Rob, okay, we're jumping all over the place

But what I do want to know is when was the move because you did all these really successful great movies

Like I pointed out before Sam was fire about last night

Whatever it was class one of my favorite masquerade, which I loved as well. Thank you. I like that one

I thought that was a very underappreciated movie

um

And then all of a sudden you start you made like this switch and you're like, well, I'm gonna do comedies

And all of a sudden you became a guy who was like in every comedy in the 90s

Uh, you were in him and it was a big was that like a

Like

Did you make a conscious decision like yeah, fuck it. I'm done with this. I'm now I'm gonna do that. How did that happen?

What I'd loved always loved comedy and it was my first love and was obsessed with snl

I did

For my sixth grade talent show. I did acroids basomatic sketch

I loved

loved

Right, you know that one

Oh, yeah, this that thing where he sells the basomatic and he talks really fast and it's how many times does this happen to you?

You have a bass

It wiggles off the hook. Yeah

And so I hosted snl and had a really good show

and

Hit it off with lauren and I think lauren saw

Something in me that nobody nobody had really seen before that I could really be funny and then

um

When they so when they made wanes world into a movie

Yes, I had I had also connected with mike on the show

um

And we we we started just got each other and so when they when they were making wanes world

They were looking for somebody who had been in a movie

I mean they mike and dana

Literally, it was just as simple like I think rob's been in a movie shunt. Tell tracy who he's talking about really quickly

Uh, oh, uh, what mike mires and dana carvey. There we go. Thank you. Yeah mike mires dana carvey

Okay, um, you have to use them sparingly rob, you know, you give them the easy ones like that and then you move forward

I know I got some nervous

So you do so. Yeah, of course, of course, it's it's wanes world and that makes sense

That you get brought in is not only had you been in a movie you've been in a lot of big movies and you're a movie star

So for them, it's a great

get

And loren's like so you're gonna mike's gonna write it and you're doing it rob and you start tomorrow

And you've already said yes, and here's your wardrobe and you've said yes, and let's go into action

I just by the way will I just walked with him

Last week I had nata I had nata good loren michaels walked through beverly hills in a long time

And there were so many great quotes. I I really really really and we have to do a coffee table book

We have have we have to of loren quotes

It's they're they're the best

One of my favorite and I love loren. I haven't

I haven't done the walk with him in in a few years now any of the walks. I've done the beach walk

I've done obviously the beverly hills flats walk many times

But this is a known thing. Yeah, he walks with people. Yeah, like john syke said to me other day

I just did a walk with loren and then I saw him with gold. I see he in gold one every time he's in town

john gold one, but I said

He one time said we were talking about the south and he just goes

It's a mason dixon line thing

Which I loved but rob what you did with that with that comedy turn though

That I I sort of felt was it was just

I just thought it was really admirable that you were doing this

It's if I remember correctly at a time when people really were still kind of taking themselves pretty seriously

And you were not and you were assigned a lane too. Yeah, and you said, yeah, you know what?

I'm not going to bust out of that lane for a lane of I am a character actor and I'm doing shakespeare

Now you actually went the opposite direction. He said I'm actually going to kind of make fun of myself a little bit here

and um

Just pull my pants down a little bit, you know and kind of not be quite as uh

Gorgeous, you know, it was it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was really cool. Well, thanks. I mean, I love it and I still

I still love

You know, you guys know there's nothing look. I'm talking to a bunch of guys who get to do

You know, you know get to play in both pools and to do

You know like to do be doing Lone Star now

And then the show, uh, which is now on netflix unstable with my son hard comedy. Oh, yeah

You know that's the fun of it because they're so different but but when I first got into when I first got into comedy

When I first got into humor, um

You know, I when I first decided it was um, no one else was in that lane for sure. No one

knew they were and also snl was a thing where like

People

Like now everybody wants to do it does it doesn't think about it

But in those days, like, oh, you better be careful. Oh, I don't know like there was all that shit going on

I was like, right be careful of what right? Yeah, but you do you do wanes world. You do tommy boy. You do

Austin powers and then you jump back and you start doing things like

You you do a bunch of serious dramas. You you did brothers and sisters, uh, west wing

Well, I was gonna say west wing. Right. Sorry. Sorry west wing first

I was getting to west wing but west wing first, which was a phenomenal show

Then you then brothers and sisters with Robbie Bates, then then then you go and you make the jump and then you start doing

I remember the day that

Amy's like, I think Rob Lowe's gonna do

Parks and Rec and I was like what that's amazing

All of a sudden like you're on a serious drama and then the next year you're on a sitcom and you're on a you're on a you're on a full

Fudge comedy. Yeah, you're an agent's dream. Yeah, very few people get that kind of I know

And can pull it off and nobody and there's there's no part of you that's like, well, he can't do that

You're like, yeah, well, yeah, it's Rob Lowe. Yeah, Rob can do it. Like that's fucking rad, dude

So for as much as you feel like you're like a leading, you know

A character actor trapped inside a leading man's body you did what you wanted to do anyway, which I think is

Super fucking and still are doing it and they're still doing it. Yeah, it's pretty rare. Thanks

And then now you're doing your show with Johnny

Who's a great kid who might know a little? Yeah, you're signed down. Jesus Christ. That's so cool. I remember you saying telling me

Talk about this, dude

It's it's so it's

I mean to be able to work with with my son. I mean it all started with um

him sort of

Trolling me on on social media like just brutalizing me. I mean

mercilessly

just for nothing other than to just do it and

People started to notice and it got to the point that if I was out doing an interview to promote something whether it was

You know the today show or the Ellen show it didn't matter what the

Venue was all they really wanted to talk about was your son just loves to make fun of you

We have some of his greatest hits here and we were like Jesus Christ

so it got to the point where

We both were like people really like this. I wonder is there

Is there some there there because I mean literally the audience is saying

We want this we want more of this

So we tried to figure out what it would be and we're like well, we're not going to do a reality show

Um and and I don't want to do that thing of playing a heightened version of me because larry david did it so well

It feels kind of done. So what is it? So we we we've distilled it down to

Really what it is is like a larger than life

Benevolent narcissist dad who may or may not be as in touch with the real world as he would like to think

And and the world just applauded him and the sun who's just like oh my god, really?

and

And so we we built the show called unstable and I play I play a you know like an almost like an elon musk

uh tech genius who's

Unstable on his best days and maybe insane in his others and jono and is this the the son who can

Is the only one who can speak truth to power

It's it's super fun. It's called unstable by the way. Yes. Yes. It's on netflix now. It's on netflix because it's streaming

click it

Wow

Go ahead jon. Oh, no, I was just gonna say that's I I know tommy boy so well and you're I'm such a fan of you in it

Everything but I just love that movie. I think that movie is so beloved by so many people

Are you guys amazing by the way when when sorry when someone when two people start talking at the same time

And then somebody goes no no you go ahead. I can't help but say

Oh, no, I was just gonna say like I can't stop myself from saying it and I tell myself not to say it

But that's okay

But but but you too like you just said it. It's it's impossible not to say. Oh, no, I was just gonna say

Right. Yeah, it's like you have to say it as an acknowledgement

But it's like it's like yawning when someone else yawns next to you. You can't help. It's anyway. Go ahead. Yeah

I was just gonna say uh tommy boy

Is

Movie where like Wayne's world

We thought might do do well and austin powers

They had that thing tommy boy. We no one ever expected that movie ever to do

And that started with playing tennis was playing tennis with lauren. I'll never forget it lauren bernie brilstein myself

jon goldwyn

Playing doubles perfect and lauren zing. Um, you know, I think there's something with you and farley playing brothers

Really?

And I was like, wow, that'd be great and I never heard another thing about it

And then, you know, whatever six months later tommy boy morphs into

What what it is, but but I don't think anybody thought and that's the one that I do think

has

You know, who did I just talk to oh jonahill?

Yeah, jonahill, and I'm not kidding. We'll tell you that his favorite movie in the world

Is tommy boy. Yeah, I'd be pretty close to over good fellas over the goddies. I'm telling you tommy boy

No, it's one of the greatest comedies of all time. I mean, it's right up there with all of the classics

No, what did did chris make you laugh as much offset as uh as on camera?

I because he did and when you were doing your meek laugh. I thought you were doing farley

That you do your meek laugh jason because it literally is

That's farley's laugh

He killed me

I mean chris farley and will ferrell. There's just there's no one funnier than those two guys. I know to me. No ever ever

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so

So you do tommy boy you do all this so then you do talk about west wing because west wing was such a

I mean that that show just still you can watch it

You can turn it on today and it just completely holds up

Isn't that kind of making a research? It's like I hear people talking about that they now watch it a lot like

Yeah, because politics is such a big part of of society now more so than then I think right

It's interesting about west wing is you could it kind of comes and goes it was it

People liked it when it was on and then in the early years of netflix the early years. I think it was

That and friends were drove

Netflix yeah, and and then

went off the platform

And now something's going on that they're into it again. I don't know what it is, but I'm hearing a lot about it again too

I don't know so Rob like us. You've been doing the pod. You've been in the podcast space. I like calling it the space

It does sound good. It's good right? We're in the podcast space

It's better than content. You should hear me go off about Rob

I hate when people go in my content creator. So you just make fucking shit or storyteller if you're storyteller or content provider

Uh, have you have you liked doing the podcast literally with Rob Lowe?

I love it. I have so much fun. Um

Because I

You know, it's what you guys are just riffing. You're having a good time

You're you're saying what's on your mind and

and and sometimes the the most trivial stuff is the most fun to talk about and then

You get guests on and and I get I mean, you know, I a lot of them

I have known forever and ever and ever and and know them in a very specific way that no one else is ever going to know them

In the way that I do, right? So I'm able to bring out

sides of them

that no one else is going to be able to do because they don't have the history that I have with them and

You know, I had I had Whoopi Goldberg on uh recently and I was like Whoopi, do you remember

When we were on the California toxic clean water caravan

with Michael J. Fox, Jane Fonda,

Cher, just picking up trash down at Santa Monica Pier and we went through the and we went through the McDonald's drive-thru

Do you remember like like where are you gonna? Where else are you gonna get that? You know what I'm saying?

So it's super fun. Rob has got so many

Unbelievable you're kind of like and we always we always hammer Jason and Kimmel loves hammering Jason for stories about you know

Back when he was a teen actor and stuff

You guys have such a long history in this town of doing stuff like that weird ass shit where you're like

Yeah, I went I was a 10 hour overnight train journey with LeVar Burton

We were we were going to vienna on our way to vienna to see the scent like what the fuck

I know and that Jason went to school with Janet Jackson. It's so crazy. Jason was on the massage bus with Janet Jackson

This is like fucking crazy. That's a whole other

thing Rob

I once saw Rob on a boat in the south of france and he comes on and goes we were just

Uh, we just got washed out, right? You got washed out by a flooded river or some shit. Remember that?

Yeah, I survived a flash flood in france. It was like a legit like real flash flood got saved

I would be rescued by the police. Oh, by the way, Jason we so I did jimmy show and there's a game that's named after you

That they're now renaming after me. I just want you to know the game really

Yes, it's so it's the game. We put the names in the hat

and then

you pull the hat out

And and then you have to tell a story

About he pulls a name out of a hat. It's some some random

Celebrity from years past and you have to say whether you have a story associated. Oh, that's right. I'm Rob. You must crush that

You must crush that. I want you and I to play that game. We should go mono a mono

I would give anything to watch you to fucking go. Let's just play. Let's just play let's just play a version right now

I'll I'll pick a name for you and then you pick a name for me. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. Okay, I'm ready. Okay

Telly Savalas

Uh, I don't have any direct interaction with him, but I believe my wife

that that might or no

He may be her godfather or maybe he's the godfather of gen aniston. I think I

I think he's jen's godfather, right? I think he's jen's godfather and amanda and sheared so close. So that's why it's

That's pretty good. It's sort of it's it's adjacent to which reminds me of my my new construction

Company, it's called adjacent abatement. And we what we do is we go in and we take mold out from

All right, I got here's my one for you. Uh, piazadora

Hmm. Yeah, okay. You have one. So I was wow. I was making out on the colony beach with gregari peck's daughter

Oh my god, fucking it. Everybody shut up. Keep going Rob. And

I hear this woman going that's disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself

Don't you have any common decency?

There are children on this beach

And I looked up and it was piazadora. That's crazy. But how about for bonus points?

We get gregari peck's daughter and the malibu colony. I mean

Rob low this man is royal. You're a hero. Come on. Rob. Jesus Christ. How long have you known how long have you known downy?

Ninth grade history class. Wow out there in malibu

Sam oh hi Santa Monica high school. Wow

I could see it. I remember at Christmas when I saw you and we at the christmas party and then I saw you talk to Rob

And I to downy and I was like I could immediately see like oh, this is deep

This is deep long deep deep. You guys have that shorthand of knowing each other since being kids. Yeah

That was so and there was no one more fun to party with

Downy made me laugh harder than any human being in the world and yeah, he's super funny

And I just love what he's done with his life and he's he's such an inspiration and a great guy and

By the way downy was on the bus with share and and

Whoopi Goldberg as well

I mean he was we were always doing that stuff. My mom used to my mom used to call her hoopy

Well because because in in her defense, she couldn't see the whole word because the W was covered

Because that's where the eye

The but

Do you think you'd be able to recall enough to to write a satisfying book?

He's written a book. Sorry

And he's very successful

But it's a book when I say book. I mean a follow-up a series. Yes. Yes. What's it called stories?

I only tell my friends. Is that right stories?

I only tell my friends and the second and the follow-up love life. So we're talking about so I'm talking about the third one

The third one is called names and dates

Names and dates

What's happening?

Gregory Peck's daughter March 12th

Yeah, it is a door. Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's a fucking uh, so now rob and now you're back

I know that your new thing you're well, it's not new but you're obsessed with golf

You've been playing a lot. You and I played a couple months ago with Danny D's by the way, Rob's good buddies with Danny

Who's a friend of the program?

Um, he's the best. He's the best. Uh, he's he's the world's only good finance guy

Um

And it's right how you were talking about how obsessed you are with and your game is getting really good

With I mean, you're just getting there. You're you're on it, right? Like you're practicing a lot

Oh, I practice all the time. I don't get to play as much because I don't have that much time

Really, but I I'm practicing

Easily four days a week like today. I'm at Fox. Is there a goal?

Yes. Yes. My goal is to do what you did. I want to play. I want to play in the AT&T. How was that for you?

That was incredible. I mean we'll almost won the damn thing, but um, I I had a really good time myself too

And all you got to do is just put your hand up. They'll have you up there. I mean, Rob, you're in you're in for next year with us

Come on. It was such a blast. We it was amazing. I'm doing guys

I'm doing it. I'm 100 doing it. I it always falls right in the middle of of the production schedule

But I'm actually going to ask for the time off next year and I'm I'm absolutely committing to doing it. There you go

I got to follow tiger inside the ropes at Genesis and

Yeah, I got to be inside the ropes with tiger rory and jt. It was insane. Wow. Oh, yeah, those rounds were incredible

We were you there the day when they they uh, when tiger birdie the last three holes and they all birdied 18 together

No, that was the day after I was there the day that he almost had the hole in one. Yeah. Oh, that was incredible

Yeah, one revolution, but I also saw him. You know the green with the with the sand trap in the middle of it

Yeah, you saw him put into the sand trap

Yes

Did you see that?

Tiger Woods put in put into the sand trap which just to me was the most beautiful thing in the world because I'm like, okay

That's the greatest who ever hoisted a golf club. Yeah. Yeah, and even he can do that

And even it was the thing was he was going to take his medicine

He was gonna you know, it's that thing we always do or we can't quite bring ourselves to take our medicine

Yeah, we kind of also want to do the he kind of

And he did get up and down before though. He did but yeah, I've putted into that bunker twice

Yeah in my life

Twice

And the other thing he did that I noticed was whenever he would do something like that he would go to another gear

In whatever the next hole was like another like a another gear. I want to get tiger on this show

I know it'd be great to have a wild

Uh god, I just I could just listen to you talk about all your stuff all your

I know I love god. You just everything you whether it's his movies or his shows or his life

By the way, well, this is this is what the podcast is. I mean because a lot of times somebody will bring up something

and I'll go

That reminds me because I do have a telly savala story where I was eight years old and kojak was coming to date in ohio to sign

autographs in the ladies undergarments of rakes department store

And is that true? It was yeah, absolutely true. And so I got my bus fare together

Underwear on on the third floor is telly

Yeah, yeah, and he was probably doing a kenley players. It was probably telly savala's and uh,

you know, um, um, you know some arthur miller show and

I take the bus and I wait in line forever and I and I bought him a sucker because I know telly savala's likes

Remember kojak always had the sucker. Yeah

Yeah, you always had up like a charms blow pop that was his thing

And so I bought him one and I brought it and I was going to give it to him

And it's a three and a half hour line

And I'm I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. I finally get right to the front of the line and they go

That's it. Mr. Savala has to leave

And he fucking bails and I'm standing here with my sucker

And I kind of looked for somebody I think is important and I go, excuse me

Would you give mr. Savala's my my my sucker and he goes, oh kid

That's so thoughtful. I sure will and I walk away and I'm going down the escalator

I turn around to watch and the guy throws it in the trash can

And that's awful that actually stayed with me forever

Because whenever I like I meet someone I'm always like dumpy telly savala's

Don't throw it in the trash

Right, right, and they give you a bag of freshly cooked homemade cookies

And you're like, no, I'm gonna eat these in fairness. It wasn't telly. You did it. It was it was a guy

It was a it's true. It's handler. It wasn't telly. He probably would have taken telly would have sucked it for sure

He probably would have probably there's a better way to thrown it at you

Well, I would I want to listen. I haven't listened. I don't I'm not really into podcasts

So well you make you make a hit podcast. You don't need to listen to another one. I get it

It's a radio show to will he's doing radio. It is radio. It's morning zoo

I feel like I feel like it's morning zoo drive time. Yeah drive time

I'm always I'm just trying to copy my buddy, uh, johnny von over there in the uk

Um, and rob you're a helicopter pilot. How's the traffic on the five?

Yeah, you know, it's looking a little backed up over here as the pull with a pass is pale lights as far as you can see

We got the uniform for it. Well, uh, rob, let's get out again. Uh, let's get out and play again

Yes, really fun

And uh, I want to be a part of that as soon as my granddad back heals up. Yeah, that's not good man. No, I know

Don't come back too soon. I know I got a date coming up in two days. I gotta I gotta are you doing ice baths

You you got a date in two days and it made us cool with that. She's just like she's she wants me to be smart

And safe and she's letting me make my own decision, which is nice and um, so she doesn't mind that you're are you both dating or is it just you?

Um, I uh, I I am icing it that does seem to help

Good. Yeah, I'd tell you one of the nicest thing and this is a true story. This is not a bit

I hurt my back a couple years ago now and I was at and I was texted JB. I was like my back really hurts

Anyway, I was at home and all of a sudden out of nowhere in my backyard comes Jason

And he's got like a back heating thing

And like an icy hot thing and and a bunch of stuff that he brought for my back

I just dropped it off and then I just dropped it off and he came into my backyard

I was in the sauna and he came in and he knocked and he's like I got all this stuff

I was like just like a little angel and then got back in his car and left right once a year

Yeah, once once. Yeah, even a stop clock. I thought even a stopped clock, you know

Tells the right time twice a day. Okay. Listen Rob

We love you man. I'm so excited about your show that with John and he's such a nice kid. We'd please say hi to him before me

Yeah, and also say hi to Cheryl and to Cheryl your your lovely wife of many years

So sweet such god you guys are such nice peeps and uh couldn't happen to a better

I love you guys. I I was so excited. You're three of my favorite in all series is three of my favorite people

I love everything about you guys. I love hanging with you. I love your work

I love your podcast

Dude Bateman, you're making me laugh right now so hard in the fucking trailer for the the air jordan movie

Is like only only you can fucking steal a trailer with one. Yeah, I know it's so great. It's so great. Nice

It's amazing

It's amazing

Love you miss you mean it. Yeah

Love you miss you mean it. Um Santa Barbara

Yep, we'll go, um, you know and hang or in the let's make it

Get fired off one of these 10,000 jobs you're doing and free some time up and let's go hang out. I know

All right, it has to be so hard. All right has to be the way. Uh, thank you the great rob low

We love you buddy. Love you

It's low. It's load

Load, thank you guys. Don't forget podcast rob low literally wherever you get your pot. Yeah, it was rob. Rob's podcast

Listen and unstable on netflix. You're watching it. You're loving it. Uh everything rob load, uh all the time

Love you boys. Love you. Thanks for doing this rob. Bye, buddy. Bye

Lovely man at rob low

at rob low, he's um

He's just always been nice always been talented always been handsome. Yeah, that's uh

Another guy I'd like to come back as I think there's a long list here of guests. We've had that I'd like to

Yeah, you can talk to him for hours. He's reincarnated. We tried to we tried to get him on

Uh, I tried to get him on before he was the one we had technical glitch a couple weeks ago

And we have a deal that was rob. Yes, and oh that was rob. Oh, I didn't know so I've been trying to get him on here forever

And um, you know, we had a technical glitch with uh with uh, McConaughey way back when right when when are you gonna rebook him?

I don't know. I want to get it back on here. Uh, that was a great

Because when we do have McConaughey on then we can go through hopefully we have the recording of

Of me having my hissy fit when you had your did I snap at him a little bit?

Didn't I tell him you're laughing is not making things helpful

surprise guest

Who was laughing?

Yeah, that was so great and then um, and we can talk about contact when we can talk about contact

You know, but I did you're gonna fucking break me today. Sean with the contact

It occurred to me earlier like it is somewhat it's either dangerous or good or whatever about this thing

Is it we do this all the time? We're always just sort of just

You know almost every day we're picking up that we're talking with one another

No matter what mood we're in and we drag that into these these interviews these conversations for the public

And oftentimes we're doing this thing in a bad mood and like what if we like what if we get in a fight with one another?

I mean, I know it's been it's been tense a couple days

But like every people just get like warts and all on this. Yeah, that's smart for us to be doing that

Why not? It's real. It's normal. It's real. I guess yeah, also who cares who cares?

We're not gonna get in a fight like what's the worst we've never fuck you Sean. Fuck you. Don't you disagree with what I'm sick

We've had I think it's uh

I don't know

I just think like

I really mean it when I say who cares. I mean we might as well

Right because it's gonna be lights out at some point and then

Anyway, Rob Lowe, you know

You know Rob was in contact Rob was in contact

He was he was in contact and by the way, he's not he's not allergic to work boy. He works a lot

By the way, just just for the record

There's no recollection of him in contact or Matthew McConaughey for that matter. Well, Matthew McConaughey and for joining us one of the stars

Yeah, yeah, but I only remember her in it. And wasn't there a kid too? No, there are no kid

Oh, I'm I'm I'm conflating. You thinking of now

Another uh, jody foster vehicle. I do remember the incredible opening pullback right from from earth

All the way back. Oh when I emailed you that one shot with each she runs into the mirror the mirror. Yep. How'd they do it?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's how they that's the kid when she was a little kid. Yes. Thank you. Thank you

Um, but wait, but I in his show that he's doing now the 9-1-1 lone star

Yeah, I thought I couldn't tell if he was a cop or a cia or an f

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