The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway: No Mercy / No Malice: Losing My Religion

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I'm Scott Galloway and this is No Mercy, No Malice.

For the past several decades,

religion has been fading from its central role in our lives.

This week we consider the monumental nature of this shift

and how we are filling the void.

Losing my religion, as read by George Hahn.

What has been the most significant change

in the American experience over the past century?

The internet, civil rights, antibiotics,

the transition from a manufacturing to a service economy

or rapid urbanization?

Right up there, I believe,

is the displacement of religion

from the center of our culture

and what has taken its place.

Religions and religious institutions

play key roles in society, practical and spiritual.

Humans are meaning makers.

We're wired to imbue our actions with purpose.

We will have gods,

even if forced to make them of mortals or machines.

Religion is successful because it works.

Participation in religious services

is correlated with a reduction in mortality

by a third, depression by 25%,

and suicide rates by three to six times.

Religion motivated the construction of cathedrals,

pyramids, and temples

that, set against space travel and pocket computers,

still invoke awe.

Here in the secularizing U.S.,

religious people are three times as likely

to be active in community organizations

and twice as likely to participate in local sports leagues.

There are also 44% more likely to vote

and 44% more likely to describe themselves as very happy.

Much of religious experience has been insular,

hostile to change,

riven with corruption and abuse of power.

The previous sentence may be

the mother of all understatements.

The land of the free was born of a violent theocracy,

contrary to what you likely learned in grade school,

the earliest English settlers wasted little time

before exiling anyone who differed

on the fine points of biblical interpretation.

Eight of the original 13 colonies

had official state churches and persecuted heresy.

From 1300 to 1600,

European towns executed tens of thousands of their own people,

mostly women, on accusations of witchcraft,

over 3,000 in my ancestral Scotland.

And in the New World,

the single village of Salem executed 20 people

out of a population of just 1,400.

The ratio of positive to negative

is legitimate cause for debate,

but there's no denying religion matters.

Religion, like old actors, doesn't die.

It's just fading away.

Churches are still operating

and people still line up to see El Papa,

but religious observance, practice, belief is down,

almost everywhere,

like ad-supported cable down.

Even where it persists,

Christianity coexists with other religions

and other passions.

In America, 75% of us believe religion

is losing influence.

We're correct.

Napoleon said religion is the only thing

that keeps the poor from murdering the rich.

As our nation prints more wealth and poverty,

and as we register a decline

in reasons to congregate, church, work, the mall,

we are witnessing a palpable increase in hostility

among Americans toward other Americans.

Exceptions distort our view of the long-term trend.

Compared to 40% of Americans generally,

59% of black Americans say religion

is very important to them.

In part, this is a legacy of the old churches

and church leaders in the civil rights movement.

But their fidelity is waning.

28% of Gen Z black people are religiously unaffiliated,

compared with just 11% of baby boomers.

Membership in the Mormon church,

once a growth engine, has also stalled.

A broad religious nationalism,

which may be more the latter than the former,

is driving political change in India,

and it remains a headline issue in the Middle East.

But even Saudi Arabia is creeping toward secularization.

Much of the rest of the world is already there.

In China, only 10% of people claim affiliation

with a religion, and only half of them attend services.

Only 11% of Western Europeans say

religion is very important in their lives,

and only 22% attend services regularly.

It's worth taking a moment to consider

the monumental nature of this shift.

Our species hasn't known a time

when religion played such a small role in our lives.

Being religious is our natural state,

and nature abhors a vacuum.

We are finding substitutes in two realms,

the spiritual and the corporeal.

Humans need meaning.

We crave stories and reasons

and higher explanations for things.

We want someone or something

to tell us what it all means.

I believe this was a significant factor

behind the rise of Google.

Now, even more so, it's powering our fascination with AI.

Google and chat GPT are omnipresent,

all-knowing, and soon, all-powerful.

Our gods can drive cars and use credit cards,

sentient yet immortal, everywhere and nowhere.

Feels like a god worthy of worship, no?

A. No.

If we're not worshiping the tech itself,

we are treating its masters as high priests.

No group cements this more than the Elon Stan army.

Their idol is a brilliant entrepreneur,

a world-changing innovator,

and a jubating absent father of eleven or twelve.

The refusal to hold musk to the same standards

we try to live up to

defines the distinction between admiration and worship.

Tech is not our only new god, however.

Our need to follow is easily transferred from the pulpit to the stump.

I didn't plan to write about politics this week,

but it's inescapable.

Donald Trump looms over the American landscape

more myth than man,

worshipped as a savior persecuted by the sinners of the left.

There's ideological and demographic overlap

between Trump's followers and fundamentalist religion.

Christian nationalist identity is highly correlated

with political extremism and violence,

and was bound up in the events of January 6.

Equally concerning,

85% of adherents believe, or mostly believe,

that God has called Christians to exercise dominion

over all areas of American society.

Spoiler alert, they haven't succeeded.

Religion is not merely a spiritual sucker.

Religious institutions have long provided

the foundation and framework of society.

Their declining relevance leaves a vacuum

of more immediate and practical concern

than our need for meaning.

Catholic schools enroll 1.7 million American kids.

Around 15% of parents rely on faith-based childcare.

More than half of food pantries,

which people rely on heavily during economic downturns,

are church-affiliated.

For decades, one of the major fault lines

in American politics has been the social safety net.

I, and half the country,

believe the government's role is to provide it.

The other half hates the notion.

It's no coincidence that my half is largely,

not entirely, made up of people whose religious connection

is scant.

Elong de Baton has a book about this,

Religion for Atheists,

in which he goes through the practical things

religious institutions have provided in the past.

In our increasingly atomized society,

the physical coming together of weekly church attendance

is sorely missed.

Most religions provide moral guidelines that,

at their heart, are simple and useful.

Don't steal, be good to your parents.

Render aid to the needy.

My father has been married and divorced four times,

so my religious indoctrination has been more varied

than consistent.

When I was at my dad's, I'd go with Linda, number three,

to a Unitarian church.

At my mom's, we'd go intermittently to temple.

Statistics and trends only tell us so much.

The role of religion is personal.

While inconsistent, the impact of religion on my development

was real.

I remember the rabbi at Temple, Isaiah,

delivering a Dvar Torah that spanned from the conflict

in the Middle East to the role of friendship.

Afterward, over a brisket dip at Junior's Deli,

my mom and I would discuss the sermon,

and I remember thinking,

this is fun, and I'm good at it.

I asked my mom what rabbis did and how much money they made.

They educate and comfort people, and not much.

However, they command a great deal of respect.

In high school, my closest friend was Mormon.

He was part of a two-parent family who loved sports,

laughed a lot, and treated me well.

As a latchkey kid raised by a working single mother,

I was at the Jarvis household almost every day.

I went to church events, played on their sports teams,

and even went to services a few times.

I never felt any pressure to convert, sign up, etc.

My observation from spending several years in and around

Mormons and their church, the Mormon faith is strange,

and Mormons are wonderful.

My path to atheism has been downhill.

I've always been skeptical and judgmental

and consider myself a scientist.

This made it easier to dismiss believers as idiots.

As I get older, I realize my belief that all this was nothing

and then it exploded sounded no less batshit crazy

than the parables about loaves and fishes.

Regardless, my atheism is a source of strength

as it motivates me to envision my death,

the end of the road versus an off-ramp.

Imagining my death has made me less afraid of it

and more bold in my behavior preceding the event, i.e., now.

I've been more bold in my career,

but also in my emotions.

Risking embarrassment, I frequently tell people I love them

because why wouldn't I?

Those who might laugh like me face the same destination soon.

I'd also like to think that the absence of preordained truths

fosters a relentless pursuit of knowledge,

a deeper appreciation for the wonders of the universe,

and a profound respect for the inherent value

of all living beings.

It's clear to me that every being will register joy and tragedy,

and the ratio is 90% a function of when and where you're born

and the chemistry you inherit.

Seneca believed religion was regarded by the poor as true,

the wise as false, and the powerful as useful.

As someone who has been all of those things, however,

I believe the absence of religion and opportunities to congregate

with strangers leaves a void.

I'm getting older, wanting to serve in the agency of others

to be part of something bigger and register comfort.

I'm left wanting.

I'm losing my religion.

Life is so rich.

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As read by George Hahn.

https://www.profgalloway.com/losing-my-religion/

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