Genstart: Mytteri mod Moskva

We are following breaking news out of Russia, where Yevgeny Prugoshin, the leader of the

Wagner mercenary group, says that his forces have left Ukraine and are headed into Russia.

We are voting in with reports from Newspapers, correspondents, and international media about the situation in Russia.

Tonight's news is dominated by the volatile situation in Russia.

Russian authorities are telling Wagner fighters not to follow their leader, Yevgeny Prugoshin,

and also to take measures to detain him.

The world's major, Gormuk.

Everyone is looking at the moon because it is looking for a weaponry attack against Putin.

Putin was facing the biggest threat to his authority since coming to power over 20 years ago.

It begins with a wide discrepancy from the Wagner boss, Prugoshin, on Friday night.

Lördemorgen develops it so well that it shows a regular Russian coup attempt.

4,000 seriously wounded men from the private Wagner here are moving in an unequivocal way

against the Russian capital, Moscow, against Putin's crime.

This is a fight for power in Russia, as we see in the game, for all of us,

and it will be a huge blow for Putin to stop it, because it is very fast.

But then it stops quickly, almost as suddenly as it started.

Even if the coup attempt never becomes a reality, the question is whether Putin has been killed.

It is today about the failed murder of the weekend, and the ruffles that have been sent through the crime.

My name is Anna Ingrish.

These failed coup attempts took place in the weekend, or what we should call it now.

What have it done to you?

It has destroyed some of the weaknesses in the Putin system,

and it also tells us that there are some fundamental weaknesses in the Russian state.

There are weaknesses that they do not have the ability to handle.

A state that says that we should not use the border, because we are still going far away,

but a weaponized conflict in a certain way, a form of weaponized attack, a coup attempt, etc.

is of course a sign of a state that has problems with itself.

Fleming, let's start with you. You just presented yourself to the people who may not have heard you now.

I have seen you research in the Danish Institute for International Studies.

What you have been aware of in the weekend, Fleming, has it come back to you?

It is completely concrete that it has come back to me, but we have only been able to take it through the months,

that there have been these tensions, and we have talked about how far can Brigodian go.

How many snores does he have? He has sought out the boundaries.

We must say that he has found the boundaries here in the weekend,

but we have been able to see that it has come together with something.

It means that the conflict, the accusations, the accusations, the accusations have become stronger and stronger,

and that is what we have been able to see.

In the division of the Chevak Wagner, the Bahamut was practically surrounded.

The main person in the weekend's drama is Yevgeny Prigoshin.

The keys are clamping.

The leaders of the military group Wagner.

A private Russian camp here is well known for their brutality.

Earlier, he managed a trolley here for Putin, and then also gave him the president's cock.

They call him Putin's chef. Here he is serving President George W. Bush.

When Putin was supposed to have done some business, he gave him to Prigoshin.

Now he leads a huge private army.

It was Prigoshin who could organize things, things to happen,

but he was scrapped out in a different way.

And Prigoshin has a very dark past.

He had the most of the four officials in the Soviet Union.

Just like in the past, he has been sitting for many years.

And then he came into the catering industry,

and therefore he was one of those who wanted to get Putin.

Do you have Prigoshin's cock here? How does it look?

He is a hard guy. He is a little heavy in it.

He is brutal in his expression.

And there are many of the tabloids in the system that do not like him.

And because of that, his future, the way he talks about it,

is his choice, which is full of vulgarity.

And then that's what he's sitting in jail for.

That's what many people can't agree with.

And they think that he plays a big role, or has done it through time.

Yes, and most of them just follow a minimal meal in the war.

After all, he knows him quite well.

Everyone knows who he is, why he became such a head person in the war.

He has become a head person in the war,

because the Russian authorities and the Russian media have chosen to do it.

It is also what he might have done, this coup attempt.

The Wagner group quickly gets a leading role in the war against Ukraine.

And Prigoshin goes from being an anonymous background man for a secret camp here.

To being a great public personality.

He came out of the ship and said, yes, it's me who's standing in the tip of the wave.

The war is severe.

It was me who established them in 2014.

I did it to be active in Eastern Ukraine.

And that's why in Europe, for the Russians, it was snowing.

We established such a company, such a militia,

who was active in Eastern Ukraine.

And we said to him that he didn't find it.

But that's the way they handle it. That's what they think is snowing.

Since then, since he believed in it, since he came out of the ship,

the Russian authorities and the media have celebrated him as a great hero.

So in a year's time, they have said that Prigoshin is a great hero.

It's Prigoshin who leads the other camps.

It's Prigoshin who leads the troops.

It's Prigoshin who is responsible for the mobilization of the people.

So it turns out that he has one role in the war.

He has some leaders, he has something in Eastern Ukraine

and he plays a role in the front.

So he is also a man who is good at being late.

Yes, he is really good at being late, he uses social media

and he has his followers.

So when you talk about Prigoshin and his achievements,

it's important to remember that there is a part of the Russian society that supports him.

How many do not know?

But I can see in the Russian media, I myself have often tweeted stories from Russian media

where they take his views from social media

and completely disregard them on their own.

And that knows that there is a support for him.

It's good that they do not know what he wants.

But they suspect that he will take up the system,

he will run out into the redness that is around,

for example in foreign ministries and other places.

Look at them!

S**t!

S**t!

He blamed Russia's top defense officials for heavy losses

and accused them of starving his forces of ammunition.

Prigoshin has in months opened his eyes to the most advanced military leadership,

which has been very strange in itself.

But Friday night, his criticism reaches a completely new level

when he shares a sound field at 21 o'clock.

Well, in that sound field, he warns the Ministry of Defense

that they have attacked his troops.

Well, that's actually what I'm looking forward to.

And what Prigoshin says to the media is that

Russian troops have attacked the militant troops

while we are fighting in the eastern Ukraine.

Then they will attack us.

There was no reason for the war.

It's something that the top defense officials have found.

And now we will simply not find out more about it.

And now he will simply answer again

and he announces a fair march against Moscow.

So he is simply thinking to take part of his material and his landscape

and then go to Moscow.

And then he calls for changes in the top of the military system.

He calls for the Minister of Defense to be dismissed

and he calls for General Staff Chief Valeriy Gerazimov to be dismissed.

If these changes do not come,

and if there is no beginning to roll,

then I will soon be in the red spot.

Well, we start with a high-spirited situation in Russia

where a weaponry officer looks like he is playing in these hours.

State media this hour says security measures have been set up in Moscow.

State media also saying Putin is aware of a situation

unfolding around Yevgeny Pergoshin,

the Chief of the Private Wagner Army.

So much so that it is out in the Russian community.

They can sit and follow,

and make sure that there is a certain control over what is happening here.

And the media all over the world also goes into,

so Breaking Ganga 10 has wanted to say,

all Danish media, all international media.

Does it also matter to you that you hear this sound?

Yes, it does. I came home late on Friday.

I was in the city and came home at about 11.30.

And my reading is that Pergoshin is trying to set a trap here

in a way that I cannot say,

now it is happening and now there should be changes.

How does Kremlin react to Pergoshin's attack here?

The Foreign Minister and Kremlin,

Putin's talisman,

so that there is something about these accusations

that the Russian Foreign Minister should have attacked the Wagner troops.

There is a part of it,

so a bit of anger and confusion about how to deal with it.

What can you do?

There is an awareness that the Wagner troops are strong.

Late in the evening,

the Russian Security Minister, FSB,

reports that they are opening a sentence against Pergoshin.

And says that this is a response to the weaponry,

to attack the military.

And that is the status of the Flemings and most others go to bed.

But in the course of the night,

it develops rapidly and rapidly.

At 23.30, the S.F.B. Wagner soldiers

attack their own leaders.

This does not happen

instead of having Pergoshin in time later

that he and his master are in the south-west Russian city of Rostov,

the city where the entire Russian war effort in Ukraine is controlled.

And a couple of hours after that,

at 3 o'clock at night,

Pergoshin writes on the message on Telegram

that they have shot a Russian helicopter down.

Shortly after that, at 4 o'clock,

he swears that he will choose

the most advanced military leadership of the country.

At the same time,

a large military convoy is seen on the M4 motorway

with a direction towards Moscow.

Good morning and welcome to P1 Morning.

When you wake up in the morning and orient yourself

what is the status and what has happened?

This is great.

And then it is out there,

if you are unclear,

what they actually can lead to.

Good morning, Flemings-Biedspogel.

Yes, good morning.

I am looking forward to these.

There are journalists who call me early in the morning

and ask how long it takes to drive to Moscow.

And I actually don't know that from there,

but I also doubt that he will go all the way forward.

So there is a little bit of a question

about what he is planning to do

and how the road looks like out there.

I am thinking about what kind of situation he will meet.

He is planning to go all the way

and maybe stop him on the way.

So my assumption is that they will try to stop him

before he is too close to him.

We will not repeat this.

Saturday morning at 9 o'clock,

Putin talks to the people of Russia.

We will protect our people

and our state from any threat.

I think he seems a little stressed.

At the same time, he is also very direct,

very firm in his speech.

He chooses to escalate.

He talks about treachery.

He talks about getting stuck in the back

while you are in the war.

And then he uses the 1917 analogy.

During the First World War,

Russia is involved in the First World War.

It goes really bad.

And at a certain point,

some soldiers choose to throw their weapons

and run home.

And there are other soldiers who turn up,

but they take their weapons with them

so 1917 marks the revolution in Russia.

And if there is anything that the Putin can't like,

then it is revolutionaries.

So Putin uses the analogy

to tell the Russians in a simple and simple way

that this is what is at stake.

It is the regime's survival that is at stake.

It is the state's survival that is at stake.

And therefore I need to handle this very firmly.

And it is also my security and stability.

It is also my security and stability,

my future.

What can you say about the regime?

Because it is the life of the people we have.

It is not the words he uses,

but it is something that lies in the analogy.

So it is a rhetorical term he uses in 1917.

And then the Russians understand that

the chaos that begins there

can not be accepted.

And how is his speech an escalation?

He later puts it in a very violent way

that now we have to deal with a father

who is stalking us in the back

while we are in this hard, hard battle.

And it is completely unacceptable.

So he puts it in a very violent way.

But despite Putin's great speech

the people of Helmut Breguschen are not.

In the course of Lördagen

you can follow how the Wagner column

will always be closer and closer

to Moscow.

Messers have the panthered

men's army, combat army,

air defense systems

and mobile rocket systems.

It is about 250 miles

south of Moscow.

It is necessary to do something

or at least choose to do something.

This with the invaders in Moscow

Moscow region

they are warned that they will get into a door

and get close to each other.

It sounds very, very violent.

Yes, it is very violent

and it is of course also because of the people

who are there.

It is basically a wish to keep people away from the streets

if something happens. It is much easier

for the police and security forces to navigate

if there are no people on the streets.

The situation is also in this case

that these Wagner troops

actually go all the way to Moscow.

What is important for you to keep an eye on?

It is of course

how they move forward.

How they move forward, how far they come

and how they get into the streets

up to about 200 kilometers

from Moscow. And then of course

there is a lot of attention to how the Russian media

covers this hundred ways.

And there we can say

that there are some instructions

on how to cover this

and how to make it very sharp.

All the talks about security,

all the talks about trying to open a cup

all the talks about having to hold it

very, very tightly.

So we can say that the confrontation

is building up right now

in the course of these hours.

The people of Prigoshin come to Moscow

and the authorities are ready to accept

this under no circumstances.

So I am waiting

for the climax

that might come when they stand together

in one way or another.

Thanks to the fact that this column

comes closer and closer to Moscow

and so relatively quickly, you also start to think

what if this succeeds?

What happens if they actually

move forward to Moscow?

What is the consequence of this?

Yes, it does, but I have a suspicion

that they will stop Prigoshin

at a time point before

they, for example, liquidate him

eliminate him, take him completely out of the line

maybe in some way

if they can, or hit hard on these troops.

Do you think that this does not happen

before they reach

so relatively close to Moscow?

Why does this column

and Prigoshin do not get the bomb

liquidated?

Yes, it does, but we also have to be honest

to say that it has developed so much

so far quickly and in some small

stages where it is difficult

to put yourself down and say

it is now necessary to say

exactly where this column is

and how long is there until

and so on.

But of course I wonder

what can happen to be his goal

and I do not really know

what Prigoshin had to think about.

I think we should not agree

with him to think that the retreating

Putin and the rebels in the Kremlin

will at least be very dramatic

and super controversial.

In the top of the military system.

And

I should also be honest, I am not sure

about Prigoshin's whole thought

there Friday night when he gets

a ready-made bridge and decides

to escalate the situation, but soon

he sets off and thinks

now we have to see what is happening.

And my reading is also that he may

think that

it is not certain that I can go all the way

forward, maybe we should try

to see if we can discuss

it.

That is, now I will not say

that you feel confused, but

I think it is a bit chaotic in the

mood, just for you when you follow

it, because it goes so fast and

the reports, they move forward

and the whole thing is constantly

characterized. Do you actually think

that the Kremlin has had it in the same way?

Yes, I think they have had it and

I think it is important for us to try to

understand when we have to analyze

this and we have to understand where it

is, there are some power dynamics

that will change and we will not see

them.

And even those actors who are close to

can not see them.

So I imagine the situation where

Brigodian has set off and he has

thought that he has been reassured that

he wanted to get support when people

want to let him pass and he could

run a good amount of time without

anything happening.

But he may have been unsure if there

will be a resistance that will

happen.

But there were some who were

willing to insist on this and

Brigodian on his side may have

been convinced that he has the

loyalty towards people and that

there are some who will fight for me.

And Brigodian knows well that

Brigodian is popular and even if

he wants to build it up, he can

take care that there is support for

Brigodian around.

So Brigodian could also have been

convinced.

So Brigodian is still in

the process of running

and then he announces to Brigodian

that he stops them and he

wins over and runs back.

New development in Ruslan

led by Wagnergruppen stops

the movement of his soldiers in

Ruslan.

Around 19.30 Lörta joins

the white Russian president

Lukasenko, suddenly there is

an agreement with Brigodian.

We can't tell you the details

but the basic principle is

that these Wagner soldiers

are free of charge, that Brigodian

is offered an upholst called

Tassyl in Belarus and that

the Russian Security

Service drops all the enclosures

that have been against him.

Four minutes later Brigodian

observes the agreement in Lydfil

and announces that his soldiers

retreat.

Responsibility

for the door.

When you hear that this is a

fixed agreement, signed by both parties

do you think it is a good agreement

he has received?

No, I think Brigodian has paid

a relatively high price for it.

I also think Pusin has paid

a relatively high price for it.

It has been said earlier that

they may have both been suspicious of

how much support they had, how long

they could pull this one.

Sooner than

Brigodian would be arrested,

and sooner than

Pusin would be released,

then they would have to do something else

and that's what they both did.

My point of view is that

it is not a very good agreement

for Brigodian, but there can be

nothing in it that we don't know

until he seems to be very satisfied

but a Tassyl in Belarus

I don't think he had agreed with

for the whole morning and

that he would still have

some money on him.

I think he is not going to live

much longer.

Then it is difficult for him to

suddenly move out or drink a

cup of tea.

But now we have to see that there are

some guarantees.

There are a lot of experts out there

saying now that Brigodian is

more or less as good as dead

after the weekend game here.

Do you agree that he is

as good as dead?

No, I don't.

Pusin has to cement his power

again.

I imagine that after all this

he has sat in a dark room

with a lot of trusted employees

and talked about who is with me,

who is against me, who can stand on,

who should be fired, who should be released.

Already now I am trying

to repair these damage

because there has been a lot of damage.

Then I think that he

will try to get rid of Brigodian

when he feels very powerful.

But it can also be that

Pusin is afraid to come with

Brigodian because

there can be people inside the

systems who do not want to accept it.

There can be people inside the systems

who sympathize with Brigodian

and what he stands for.

In all this game that it has unfolded

it is clear that Pusin is responsible.

He was very clear in his speech,

it was violent, it was direct,

it was directed at.

The Russian media are trying already now

to build Pusin up again,

to say that his great strength

is that he does not react so impulsive

and violent.

So what the Russians are getting to know now

is that Pusin did not like it,

it is just his style to be

after things like to seek dialogue.

Already now there is a knowledge

that he should rebuild, he should rebuild

politically.

And in that situation it can be

that he does not like it.

Is it not only about

that Brigodian has played

his role in this war

and in the fight with the power in the Kremlin?

No, I do not feel convinced

that he has played his role.

We do not know

how big the rise of Brigodian is

around and that Pusin does not know.

There is clearly a lot.

I could only see it in the media,

there are parts of the population

supporting him, there are parts of the research

that are corrupt, that buy

animals and animals in the west

and so on. They are tired of it.

And they see Brigodian in a way that

one of them can give up. They hope

at least he will.

So there are many, many unknown and it

comes back to these power dynamics

that we cannot predict, but that we

of course know is there and they

change quickly.

To say every day you are

so close to the team, there are

a lot of people around in Russia

what should I do and so on and so forth.

So even if this is a

concern and still is, as in a way

is developed all the time, and it is

difficult and what can one say,

hand-tight things about something,

so what one can see is

that despite a cup of sweets

was put down, then Pusin

suddenly looks much more

sad for everyone, both friends

and enemies.

Yes, he looks much more sad.

He himself has created waves.

He has used them, so he has created

monsters that now suddenly have turned around

and he is still weak

that he can't fight with waves.

He can't survive without waves

because then he can't lead the war.

He can't continue the war without waves.

Then he is caught in an extremely

difficult situation, but he has created it himself.

What is it for him?

What is it for Pusin that

he has revealed

that he is not so strong, he is not

so much in control, he is not so

powerful as we thought he was

and as he might have thought he was.

This is

a great blow he has taken.

We need to prepare ourselves

to create something dramatic.

We need to see this all the time, and it can be that

we live a day in need of Pusin deciding

whether to go to the pension or something else,

and then we are in a completely different place.

But his escape status has come closer

and what is happening is that

they smell it around the circles

around Pusin, the inner circle

around the inner circle.

They smell it, they want to get rid of

what is happening to each other.

It will be extremely important for Pusin

to try to sit down on this again

and then say

I have what I need and what they will try

to do to find him political.

So what do you keep in your eyes

with the coming years?

I keep my eyes on the general

of Pusin and the whole situation.

At the beginning there might be

some comments that attack

are there any of the Russian media

who want to know how this could happen

how could they get so close to each other

how could there be these conflicts?

So I keep my eyes on

if there will be any complaints about this.

It will be really exciting to see.

Okay, Flemming, thank you for sitting.

Thank you.

Behind today's screen is

Barbara Jensen, Elyse Nordman,

Linnie Fabrius, Søren Elbig

and me, Anna Ingris.

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