Global News Podcast: Lengthy sentences for 2 more Proud Boys
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The second of September, these are our main stories.
Two more members of the far-right Proud Boys group get long sentences for the Capitol Hill riot in the US in 2021.
Tens of millions in Hong Kong and areas of mainland China take shelter against a super typhoon.
And Muhammad Al-Fair, the Egyptian businessman who owned Harrods in London, has died.
Also in this podcast, Christie's cancel sales of jewellery from the widow of a German billionaire
who made his fortune during the Nazi era.
And in Mexico, goodness gracious, great balls of cheese.
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Now, staunch supporters of Donald Trump, the far-right group known as the Proud Boys,
were among the first to storm the US Capitol just after the 2020 election.
Three of its members have already been given long prison sentences for their involvement.
A fourth Proud Boy has just been jailed for 18 years, the longest sentence yet.
And North America editor Sarah Smith is in Washington.
There's probably about 300 Proud Boys, they're marching.
Thousands of people marched on the Capitol on the 6th of January 2021.
The violence that followed has already led to hundreds of convictions,
with the longest sentences going to the people who organized and coordinated the riot.
The neo-fascist Proud Boys saw themselves as Donald Trump's foot soldiers,
prepared to use force to stop Joe Biden being certified as president.
Ethan Nordin and Joseph Biggs took charge of the Proud Boys on that day,
using a radio to coordinate and move their men.
They've both been convicted of seditious conspiracy.
Nordin has received one of the longest sentences related to the January 6th riots,
18 years in prison.
Donald Trump had invited his supporters to come to Washington and to march towards Congress,
bringing language many believe encouraged the violence that followed.
Joseph Biggs sobbed in court and begged for leniency before he was sentenced to 17 years in jail.
His lawyer blames the former president.
He stood on the ellipse, basically told people,
74 million of his followers.
The election's stolen, go to the Capitol, fight like hell you won't have a country anymore.
Some people listen to him.
Dominic Pazzola can be clearly seen smashing a window in Congress,
which then ignited the invasion of the building.
He's been sentenced to 10 years in prison.
In a debate with Joe Biden, before the 2020 election,
Donald Trump refused to condemn racist violence,
and name-checked the proud boys.
The proud boys leader, Enrique Tarrio, will be sentenced next week.
Donald Trump himself is facing a criminal trial next year
over his actions to try to overturn the 2020 election result.
If he's convicted, he also could be facing a lengthy jail sentence.
Sarah Smith in Washington.
Hong Kong has issued its highest storm alert for Super Typhoon Soura.
The authorities are warning it could be the strongest storm
to hit the area in decades, with winds of up to 175 kilometres an hour.
Hundreds of flights have been cancelled,
and schools, businesses and financial markets have been closed.
In the neighbouring Chinese province of Guangdong,
nearly 800,000 people have been moved from high-risk areas.
Earlier, streets in Hong Kong were deserted.
So how prepared are people across the region for Typhoon Soura?
In Hong Kong for us, here's Martin Yip.
The buildings are shaking, but there's also something
that is less of a concern for Hong Kong during the Typhoon season.
It's usually about debris flying around.
This time, we haven't received any reports of that kind,
so it might be the upside of the whole situation at the moment.
And how do the people you've been talking to caught up in this?
How do they feel about it? Are they scared?
Yeah, they do feel scared because of the buildings shaking,
and of course this wind speed is pretty amazing.
So anything flies around that's obviously going to be trouble.
And also heavy rainfalls are expected,
but there's more or less things that people get used to.
It seems this quasi-lockdown situation,
we have to continue all the way till tomorrow morning,
and possibly by lunchtime.
And what indicator is from
Cathay Pacific, Hong Kong's major airlines.
They are expecting to resume outgoing flights from Hong Kong from midday.
So that might give some hints that until tomorrow afternoon,
we might still have to weather this kind of storm.
So the best advice the government has always been giving
is to stay home, stay away from windy locations,
stay away from the glasses.
Martin Yip in Hong Kong.
Now, also following Typhoon's solar
is BBC Weather's Stan De Naos.
It's taking an unusual path.
It's not making a direct lamp fall.
It hurtled in from the east, off the South China Sea.
And instead of barreling inland and weakening as it moves inland,
it's actually turned a corner, moving south-westward.
So the actual eye is travelling along the coastline
with the outer edges affecting Hong Kong
and the south coast of Guangdong province.
And it's going to continue to move parallel to the coast,
weakening as it does so, pushing south-westwards through tonight
and into Saturday morning, heading down towards
the Lu Xiao Peninsula and Hainan Island
by the time we reach next Monday and Tuesday.
However, it's still bringing some really heavy rainfall
across the coast of southern Guangdong, including Hong Kong.
I mean, they do get Typhoons in Hong Kong,
but this one seems to be particularly strong.
It has been a while since the Hong Kong area has seen
a powerful typhoon like this almost make lamp fall there,
but other parts of Guangdong are seeing the impacts from the heavy rain
and the strong winds at the moment.
And there's a different typhoon, another one approaching Taiwan.
That's right. We've got Typhoon Hai Cao,
which is barreling towards Taiwan.
And that's continued to strengthen as well.
I don't think it'll reach super typhoon, but close to.
And then it's like to make lamp fall on Sunday across Taiwan,
weakening as it continues through the Taiwan Strait,
and then into East China by around next Tuesday.
So there's a double whammy of typhoon impacts
across the south and east coast of China.
Stampton Ails from BBC Weather.
The Panama Canal Authority says waiting times for vessels
that reached the area without a booking have doubled
this serious drought in the region.
About 120 ships are currently waiting for their turn to cross.
Here's our America's regional editor, Leonardo Rosha.
Transit has been restricted for months and cargo ships
are having to wait on average 9 to 10 days
before being allowed to enter the canal.
The Panama Canal, which links the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific,
uses water from an artificial reservoir,
Lake Gatun, to feed a system of logs.
In the process, vast amounts of freshwater are lost to the sea.
A prolonged drought in Central America has forced the administrators
to cut the number of daily crossings by about 10%,
which has caused a bottleneck on both ends of the canal.
The restrictions are expected to remain in place
for at least another 10 months.
The Auction House Christie's has set its cancelling plans
to sell more jewels from the estate of the wife of a German billionaire
who made his fortune during the Nazi era.
Part of Heidi Horton's jewelry collection was auctioned by Christie's in May,
raising more than $200 million.
Christie said the first sale had provoked intense scrutiny
and reaction that deeply affected the Auction House and many others.
US Attorney Stephen Lieberman created a group to oppose the first auction.
He told Julian Marshall how Helmut Horton, a former Nazi party member,
acquired his fortune.
Helmut Horton was an Austrian businessman who died a billionaire
and his fortune was based in large part on businesses that he bought
during the Aryanization process in Germany and Austria in 1936, 37 and 38.
Jewish business owners were required by law to sell their businesses
and Helmut Horton and others like him went to Jewish business owners
and made deeply discounted offers, 10%, 20% of the value of businesses
and if people said that the prices weren't fair or they didn't want to sell,
Horton said, fine, we'll use our Gestapo connections
and the Gestapo will be at your front door tomorrow
and you and your family will be taken off to the camps
and it was off the backs of those deeply discounted businesses
that Helmut Horton made his fortune.
Horton after the war married Heidi and Heidi Horton began to acquire
a fabulously expensive collection of jewelry using the fortune
that he had made from the businesses stolen from Austrian and from German Jews.
I mean, although they were ill-gotten gains, that jewelry was legally purchased, was it?
The jewelry was legally purchased but it was purchased with money
that had been stolen from Jews who ultimately, most of whom were sent off to death camps
and murdered by the Nazis.
And that is why you and Jewish groups objected to the first sale by Christie's in May.
That's right. When you hear the name Christie's you think a reputable organization
that cares about its name, but when these issues were brought to Christie's attention
they didn't do anything to stop the auction.
They simply said the jewelry was legally purchased,
the jewelry itself was not stolen from Jews by the Nazis,
they weren't going to halt the auction.
They didn't think about the moral issues
and frankly, I don't think they thought about the legal issues
because the jewelry is property that was purchased with money
that was made from stealing businesses from Jews, many of whom were murdered
and there may well be claims on that jewelry by the descendants of people
who were forced to sell their businesses to Helmut Horton.
Christie's said that the more than $200 million raised by that first sale
would go to philanthropic causes.
Has it, do you know?
These were philanthropic causes chosen by Heidi Horton.
They were not philanthropic causes designed to reimburse the people from whom the businesses were stolen.
Faced with a very bad publicity, Christie's said that some of the money
would be donated to Holocaust organizations.
That was, I think, quite rightly viewed by Jewish groups as a bribe to shut these groups up.
Nonetheless, you must be satisfied that Christie's has called off
plans to sell more jewels from the estate of Heidi Horton.
We are very pleased and we ask Christie's to go a step further
and to make a public commit that in the future they will not sell any more jewelry from this collection
and they will not auction off similar property.
This is blood jewelry.
It would be as if you had somebody who had engaged in the trafficking of children
and used the money from the trafficking of children to buy artworks,
which then Christie put up for sale.
A reputable auction house shouldn't do that and we call on Christie's
to state that it will not engage in such despicable behavior in the future.
U.S. Attorney Steve Lieberman.
The Egyptian-born businessman, Muhammad Al-Fayed, has died.
He was 94.
The self-made billionaire was the former owner of the famous London department store Harrods
and also Fulham Football Club.
But an inquiry into Mr Al-Fayed's business dealings led successive governments
to refuse to grant him British citizenship, much to his frustration.
You think this is fair from the Home Secretary to behave the way
with someone like me who have given employment to thousands of people,
having four British kids.
It just shows what type of people infiltrate in the political life
and give us such a deal.
Mr Al-Fayed's death comes 26 years after his son Doad,
he was killed in a car crash in Paris with Princess Diana, the first wife of King Charles.
A U.K. correspondent, Rob Watson, looks back at his life.
Muhammad Fayed began in business selling soft drinks and sewing machines in Egypt.
He went on to own the world's most famous department store,
amassing fortune and controversy on the way.
He built a shipping business from scratch and came to Britain in the 1970s,
renaming himself Al-Fayed.
To those he clashed with, and there were many,
he was an abrasive, obsessive character given to feuding.
He bought the Paris Ritz and later the Jewel in the Retail crowned
the Harrods department store in London.
His battle with Tiny Rowland, chairman of Lonrow,
ahead of that takeover was vitriolic.
A British government inquiry later accused him of dishonesty
and he was repeatedly refused a British passport.
In the mid-1990s he revealed he'd paid British Conservative MPs
to ask questions in Parliament.
That put him at the centre of the crisis over sleaze
that eventually felled Prime Minister John Major's government
in the 1997 general election.
When his son Dodie Al-Fayed was killed along with Diana,
Princess of Wales in a car crash in Paris,
he claimed it was murder plotted by the Duke of Edinburgh
and the British Secret Service.
Muhammad Al-Fayed refused to accept that the couple's driver,
Henri Paul, an employee of his, had been drunk at the wheel.
Henri Paul was in the payroll of the MI6 for three years as an informer.
What happened to Diana and what happened to my son is a murder
and I'm not going to keep quiet until I get to the truth.
A French investigation and a British inquest rejected those claims.
He gave large sums to charity but was accused of bullying staff too.
He eventually sold Harrods after a row with the pension fund managers
over the size of his dividend.
He cast himself as the underdog,
yet he'd always craved acceptance from the establishment.
Rob Watson on the life of Muhammad Al-Fayed.
Still to come in the Global News Podcast,
a rare Iranian and Israeli collaboration to make a film
that's blossomed into something special.
In Israel, that became so extreme and in Iran too,
we are not allowed to talk to each other because we're enemies.
That's what they taught us, but we're not.
We founded this amazing friendship.
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Thousands of Syrians have taken to the streets in the northwestern city of Soweda
protesting against their deteriorating living and economic conditions.
These demonstrators chanting the people want the downfall of the regime.
Lina Sinjab is our Middle East correspondent in Beirut.
She's been telling my colleague Laquaza Barak
more about what's happening in Soweda.
They brought back all the demands that many Syrians across the country
called for in the early days of the uprising in 2011
when there were peaceful protests
as they are today in the Middle East.
This is the second week in a row that protesters took to the streets in Soweda
and today was quite significant
because thousands of them took to the streets.
They came from different villages and towns around the province of Soweda
which is a predominantly Jewish city
that the regime has always been careful in how to deal with them.
So there weren't violent crap down on protesters there
and we have to be careful.
So there weren't violent crap down on protesters there
and what we've seen this time is that the demands of the protesters
is not only criticising the government
but really targeting President Bashar al-Assad himself
calling on him to leave
and tearing out posters of him everywhere in the city
so this is quite significant to see.
What was it about the cost of living that brought people out on the streets?
Well, it was a gradual deterioration of the situation
since the days of the war
and then the war stopped
so the war economy stopped
so dollars stopped flowing into the country.
The Syrian pound devaluated
the cost of living increased
but the worst was the full lift of subsidy on oil in Syria
and that's what flipped the coin for many Syrians
that they cannot afford living anymore.
The average wage of a Syrian worker in 2011 was almost $500
today it's worth $20
an average family with a $20
they cannot even buy basic food
let alone meat or any other substantial items
just basic food for 2-3 days that won't be enough
so people are really starving.
The country has more than 90% of the population
living under the poverty line
so it's not surprising at all that they would take to the streets.
Where are we seeing these protests because they're not in the capital are they?
That's a very important question
as I mentioned, this is a Druze province
that the regime has been very careful in dealing with this minority
that is spreading between Syria and Lebanon
for example, Daraa next to it
which is a predominantly Sunni one
which is the birthplace of the uprising
we've seen some protests there
but the reaction from the regime there wouldn't be the same
like a reaction to the Druze
it's hard to see the army firing at protesters in Sweden
as they did in many Sunni towns across the country
that's why we're not seeing these kind of protests
in any other government controlled areas
because people are scared
people have been killed, bombed and detained
and the regime is very careful in how to deal with the Druze
that's why we can see this momentum in Sweden
but it's hard to see it happening somewhere else
after more than a decade of civil war
hundreds of thousands killed, millions in refugees
and tens of thousands who've disappeared
so people are really wary on what to do in the streets
although the anger is mounting
even among the Alawite community
that is the main supporter of President Bashar al-Assad
last week the government introduced cuts of income tax
but that's too little, too late for many people
however, given the violent nature of this regime
it's hard to see how long they are going to
tolerate this situation there
our Middle East correspondent Lina Sinjab reporting
an Egyptian government official has submitted his resignation
over the destruction of a number of historic mausoleums
in centuries-old cemeteries in Cairo
the Egyptian authorities say they're developing
and restoring the area
but the campaign has caused considerable anger on social media
with some saying Cairo's architectural heritage
is under threat
here's our Arab Affairs editor, Sebastian Usher
Dr Aiman Wanas says he's resigning
because his task of logging buildings of historical
and architectural value has been rendered futile
the professor of urban design said the government's project
in the ancient cemeteries of Cairo
risked wasting Egypt's rich and irreplaceable heritage
several other members of the committee documenting heritage
buildings have already resigned
the cemeteries in Cairo have long been renowned
for the elaborate decoration and domes of their mausoleums
dating back hundreds of years
the authorities say what's happening is urban development
that's necessary to bring Cairo into a new era
critics call it cultural vandalism
the death of a mother bear
shot near a national park in central Italy
leaving two cubs alone has drawn condemnation
from animal rights groups and politicians
Europe regional editor Danny Averhard
has been telling me more about what happened and why
this bear, Amarena, that's the nickname for black cherry
basically one of the fruits that it was very fond of
two things that are important
one, it was extremely well known and well loved in the area
there was a rather endearing video of the bear
going through a local town at night
only a few days ago with its two cubs and onlookers
looking quite amazed at this scene
and also it was a female of a very rare subspecies
the rarest subspecies of bear in Europe
I think called a mastican brown bear
which lives in the Apennines in Abruzzo
this area of central Italy, east of Rome
and on Thursday night it was shot and killed
and the person who did this was a man in his 50s
and he's told the Italian news agency
answer that he did it out of fear
that it was on his property and he had shot it
but it hadn't meant to kill it
but sadly the bear died of very bad injuries
and the cubs escaped into the countryside
there's been quite a bit of reaction
both locally and on social media
absolutely, first of all on the political level
you've had the minister of the environment chip in
you've also had the governor of Abruzzo say
he's a very serious act against his whole region
it leaves pain and anger he said
and the head of the national park said
this type of bear is never aggressive
everyone loved her and called her a symbol of the park
and the rangers who posted the picture of the dead bear
said that it was just not justifiable
that bear Amorena had never created problems for humans
despite having raided agricultural produce and livestock
Danny Aberhardt
lots of movies claim to be groundbreaking
but Tatami which premieres at the Venice Film Festival
this weekend does fit the bill
it's a co-production between an Iranian and an Israeli
the film is about a female judo fighter from Iran
who has a shot at winning gold at the world championships
but the Iranian authorities order her not to compete
against her next opponent who's from Israel
leaving her and her coach in an awful dilemma
here's the moment when commentators notice
something's wrong with the Iranian contestant
don't worry, the coach is not out there with her
and well, I don't know why
she really needs to come cause herself to get her head seen somewhere else doesn't it
but this is where she's got to dig in
the co-directors are the Israeli guy Nativ and the Iranians are Amir
first to guide him, Franks asked him what inspired the film
in the middle of the pandemic
I read an article about an Iranian boxer named Saddaf Qadim
she really wanted to box in Iran but she couldn't
and she escaped to France where she became the first Iranian female boxer
and then more female stories about athletes
who rebelled against the regime in Iran for freedom
as part in the news and that brought the idea to make a movie about that
especially when the Israeli athletes and the Iranian athletes
are best friends in the competition outside of their homes
your Israeli, was that the reason why you then try to get in touch with Zah?
absolutely and Elham who wrote the script with me
so I brought a lot of Iranian artists with me to tell this specific story
and Zah, how long did it take you to decide that this was a project that you'd like to be involved in?
it took me a little bit of time because it can be risky for everyone
even outside of Iran
I think that this global situation of our society and our planet
is to rush towards disaster
we don't know how long we will all be able to live
but at least during this time we do something good
I just start doing this as a fit, it's staring, it's beautiful
because we've never seen it before
it's being sort of talked about as a first this collaboration
you live in exile in France yourself
you left Iran some years ago
in 2008
but you just said to me that you had to think about it a bit
because it's a very risky project
even with you living in exile
can you tell me why that is?
as an Iranian filmmaker what is happening in Iran and Israel is almost the same
political situation
we don't know with what risk exactly you take
not only because I'm afraid of Iranian government
but the story that we are telling in this movie
is exactly what goes on with us
because that government, that power can influence me
can control me sometimes even from 1000 km away
it also sounds like you both were drawn to the idea of
this fact that an Israeli and an Iranian were cooperating
there was a bigger story behind the scenes guy
what our government are preventing us from doing
we achieved
it's kind of sad that we have to get out of our country
to stability Georgia to meet each other
to feel like we're sisters and brothers
to understand that we are from the same tribe
in Israel that became so extreme
and in Iran too
we are not allowed to talk to each other
because we're enemies, that's what they taught us in school
but we're not
we founded this amazing friendship that is for life
we have the same taste, food, movies, music, sports
and we shot this film under the radar with a different name
and we made it
and that's why this collaboration is so important for us
it's kind of crazy that both countries are going through the same process
there's people who are fighting in Israel against the regime
by Benjamin Netanyahu
a lot of people are going to the streets to demonstrate
it's kind of crazy that Zar came to Israel to edit the film
in time of demonstrations
we were in the same ground to demonstrate the fight for democracy
the same thing happens in Iran
I hope this movie opens another window
we need to change our mindset
we need to change how we see each other
we don't need enemies
this movie is my first feature as director, co-director
I really love this movie and I'm very proud
and I hope we make them feel good about this friendship
Israeli Guyanati of the Iranians are Amir with Tim Franks
about the film Tatami
let's go to the Mexican town of Pijijapan now
local people there have been keeping themselves busy
with a bit of record breaking
the residents have banded together to, well, band together
a giant ball of cheese
weaving together cheese strings to make a ball
the size of a refrigerator
sounds like a story for Stephanie Prentiss
a giant spinning wheel
surrounded by 80 determined Mexicans in white overalls
feeding long strings of white cheese into it to form a ball
but this was no normal day
playing with a giant ball of cheese, no
these dairy farmers and cheese professionals had a plan
to make a ball of cheese so large that they break the world record
over 350 kilograms fair
using caseo, a mozzarella-like stretchy semi-hard cheese
drawn out into long strings
it is a source of pride for us, we're happy
proud to be here, for us and for our cattle producers in this region
it is going to be a part of history
to have the biggest piece of cheese in the world
making the biggest piece of cheese in the world
in all smooth sailing
at one point the Kurds nearly had their way
tilting dangerously close to the ground
but the crowd were there to cheer the workers on
and after much cheering and much spinning
a 558 kilogram piece of wound-up cheese was created
smashing the previous record
and securing the team's place in the record books
Stephanie Prentice reporting
I definitely can't beat the Kurds nearly had their way
so that's all from us for now
there will be a new edition of Global News to download later
this one was mixed by Javid Ghilani
the producer was Emma Joseph
the editor is Karen Martin
I'm Andrew Peach, thanks for listening
and until next time, goodbye
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The members of the Pro-Trump group were convicted over the US Capitol attack in January 2021. Also: Christie's cancels sales of jewellery from the widow of a German billionaire who made his fortune during the Nazi era, And Mohamed Al Fayed - the Egyptian businessman who owned Harrods in London has died.