Lex Fridman Podcast: Judea Pearl: Causal Reasoning, Counterfactuals, Bayesian Networks, and the Path to AGI

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Judea Pearl is a professor at UCLA and a winner of the Turing Award, that’s generally recognized as the Nobel Prize of computing. He is one of the seminal figures in the field of artificial intelligence, computer science, and statistics. He has developed and championed probabilistic approaches to AI, including Bayesian Networks and profound ideas in causality in general. These ideas are important not just for AI, but to our understanding and practice of science. But in the field of AI, the idea of causality, cause and effect, to many, lies at the core of what is currently missing and what must be developed in order to build truly intelligent systems. For this reason, and many others, his work is worth returning to often.

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00:00 – Introduction

03:18 – Descartes and analytic geometry

06:25 – Good way to teach math

07:10 – From math to engineering

09:14 – Does God play dice?

10:47 – Free will

11:59 – Probability

22:21 – Machine learning

23:13 – Causal Networks

27:48 – Intelligent systems that reason with causation

29:29 – Do(x) operator

36:57 – Counterfactuals

44:12 – Reasoning by Metaphor

51:15 – Machine learning and causal reasoning

53:28 – Temporal aspect of causation

56:21 – Machine learning (continued)

59:15 – Human-level artificial intelligence

1:04:08 – Consciousness

1:04:31 – Concerns about AGI

1:09:53 – Religion and robotics

1:12:07 – Daniel Pearl

1:19:09 – Advice for students

1:21:00 – Legacy