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The 6th-century war, Hanna?

Yes, and then you go with the last one?

Yes, because that's the most important war we have to talk about here.

We have to talk about all of it?

We don't have to talk about all of it, because we'll get there soon.

I know, and we'll talk a bit about what kind of food I have there.

The 6th-century war is just completely over.

Yes, but then I can get rid of some war quickly.

Yes, and goodwill for a special setting.

I hear that it's...

Yes, that's what I'm talking about for sure.

Good luck!

We can't talk about Israel without talking about wars, but there have been many wars

almost every 10 years.

But if we take the ones that are after the war,

the one that stands out, that stands out, is the 6th-century war,

because it's been going on for centuries.

Now everyone is fighting it, maybe, but rarely.

It's a bit special, I think.

Yes, of course it's been in the 6th-century war, it's been in the 6th-century war,

and also because it's been drawing the whole map.

And it did something with the whole Israeli morale in relation to war,

and understanding of power, and the change of Israel.

But briefly, it was a war where Israel expanded its territory

from being, I shouldn't call it a borderline,

but after that Israel is among other things with Sinai, the island.

Which is Egypt.

Egypt, yes.

It's half an eye.

Yes.

Swar, deep in the area.

And it's become very Islamistic now.

Yes, okay, nice.

So it's a bit of a hub for Islamism.

But that's Sinai, and then it was Golan,

the height, the west width, the whole Jerusalem.

Because they're being attacked, or the ones you started with?

Yes.

From all sides, really?

Yes.

And wins in all directions?

Yes.

Which is totally incredible.

It's good to just continue.

Yes.

Swar, can we talk a little bit about how they got you there?

Yes.

But that's a bit different.

But what do we do with these countries?

There came a question mark in Israel,

in all the world, right?

We've got a country where Israel has become much bigger than they were before.

The short story is that then the project for housing began.

Because then the open borderline, the borders,

they are heard, then, legally from the Israeli side,

and exist, since there is no open will, is that the first thing?

Yes, but no, because it's not in all directions.

No, okay.

So there is a difference between Palestine and Israel.

Israel did it.

Okay.

There are two different things.

Yes, I think that's from the word.

Exactly.

One thing is the Israel-Palestinian question mark.

Another thing is the Israeli-Mittus question mark.

Now the countries have become smaller than they were,

because they came to the Yom Kippur war,

six years later,

which was also Yom Kippur's lightest day in the Middle East.

But since the six days of the war,

Israel has kept on,

what we now know as the Palestinian-occupied areas,

Gaza, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights,

and West Berlin.

And then the question mark,

how do we hold on to these areas?

If you are going to hold on to these areas,

you can do it militarily,

or you can do it civilian.

And then there will be more plans

where the kind of recognition

about the demographic landscape,

i.e. the population landscape,

is more important,

or is more true, not more important,

than it is done militarily.

That's one thing.

The second thing is that the six days of the war

wake up to life

than what we call a messianism.

It is a time for the Elites.

Yes, the messias have come from.

Yes, and the point with that.

Is that they get a part of the Jewish population

that says,

this is what the Elites have come from.

Because Israel has recognized

the Elites within a part

of the Jewish theology,

that the Jewish people

also have an agreement with the country.

And then there is someone

who takes the six days of the war

as the building of the Elites,

which makes them move to the occupied areas

and start to live there.

So if you build a military

occupation here,

with a religious development,

that is what has become

big residential projects in Israel.

Military way,

Israel has kept

the mountain tops

within the western area.

From Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

there is a very big height difference.

The western area is within a height.

So the military

here wants to keep the heights

to have a bigger transition

over the neighboring countries

that want to attack themselves.

And then come a little bit with

what has become the residential area.

That has developed over time

and has been more in the war side.

But a lot of this is happening

in the six days of the war in the 1960s.

Because then the Elites

have expanded their territory

and kept and fortified themselves

within the occupied areas.

And they have continued to do that side.

But not all of them,

they have given back things to the Elites.

Yes, the Elites.

Yes, with the rest they have kept.

And Gaza was a Jewish population

in front of 2004.

It was the Elites who brought it back.

But the Palestinians,

it is still described as a big prison.

So they have continued,

the lowest in there, for example.

So there has been some housing

but the big chunk of the residential area

came after the six days of the war.

It changed the entire map.

But then you can also say

that the war there,

because Israel has been attacked,

it has done quite well.

The so-called military security measures

have done quite well.

And that was a very win in the victory

for the Israeli military

as a defense state.

But they did not

go super well afterwards.

But it has been defined

for Israel since then.

So there have been wars every ten years.

Not these ten years here.

But we are not that far into that.

No, it was just in 2023.

We had one in 2010.

Yes.

What war was it?

Gaza.

Yes, we had one in 2009.

2006 it was in Lebanon.

So in between there you have

two interfaces there.

You have the Palestinian resistance camps.

1987.

2000.

Oh, yes.

Yes, and so on.

So it has not been like...

We have to wait for almost the third one

in the middle of the year.

Yes, but we have to wait for a few weeks.

So it will come again.

Not the third war?

Yes.

Can you explain something

about why Jerusalem is so important?

It smells like a 20-minute smell.

Yes, we can move forward three.

Okay.

Religious,

Jerusalem is the most important city

in a theological way.

I would say

an identity-based way.

Number two.

You can't see Israel without Jerusalem.

It is almost impossible

for Jerusalem to be in another country.

There is at least a problem for me.

Exactly.

If we give it to Sadia,

it will be like this.

It is very positive for me.

And then I would probably say

the last thing about culture

is that it may not be

able to distinguish between the two.

In relation to what Jerusalem is

in our entire cultural history.

It is difficult to take it away.

Because it wants to be completely un-actual

for Israel to be able to give back

back to Jerusalem.

It is just like...

And then you could have believed

that the whole conflict

has become what we call a zero-sum game.

I mean that everything

or nothing for all parties.

So...

If you do this,

then this is also a change in history.

And it is so complicated

that if someone moves one meter to the right,

it means that the other one

has to back one meter, right?

And Jerusalem is a bit the same.

If Israel, the Jewish Israel,

doesn't have it,

it means that they actually

have to hide from each other.

You could have seen that

you could have a solution

but that is a completely different question.

Yes.

Okay.

So that is...

And it is of course

where the temple is located

in Hina Hore.

And where you wish to have the temple back

but of course it is the other one.

And all of this is...

It is not like the Roman temple

to Jupiter, it is like...

They don't go back yet.

They don't go back.

There are people who think

that they can't just give it to Jupiter.

If they don't go back to Jupiter,

then both the Jews and the Muslims

will leave.

Because they have never been there yet.

Yes.

Okay.

I don't know if the war is going to end

but if there is someone who is saying

Orahisbollo,

then it will come from there.

It is the Lebanese

what is it called now?

It's not like that,

but should we start crying

in all the wars?

No, no.

If someone is saying

Orahisbollo who has not been there yet,

Hamas, is that one?

The Palestinian Islamic group

that is now...

There are two big Palestinian

power groups,

one is the Pelo Fatah

and the other is Hamas.

The one is the Islamic religious group

and the other is not.

No, no.

Hamas is the Islamic group

and the Pelo Fatah is the Jasser.

Yes, yes.

Yes.

We can't...

Just name the words.

Should we take it now?

Just name the Orahisbollo because you were there.

Well, not like that.

I don't think we should say that.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

No, I don't think so.

But...

You were crying around there,

didn't you?

Yes, and I'm not born

at the age of 60.

Yes.

No.

No.

The Orahisbollo

is a kind of peace process

with the Palestinians of Israel

and...

Let me see if I can understand that.

Because the Palestinians of Israel

were very upset

because of the situation they had to face

and made a map of

this whole thing.

There are so many limitations and problems

that it's difficult to draw up.

And then the Palestinians

were divided into three sub-divisions

where there is type A,

which is 18% of the Palestinians

with full Palestinian control.

Then there is type B,

which is 22% of the Palestinians.

This is a mixed control.

And then there is type C,

which is 60% of the Palestinians

under Israeli control,

where the Palestinians have to seek

to build something,

which of course we have to be responsible for.

And there they live

half a million in Israel

for some reason.

Is that...

I have observed it

quite well.

Yes, they divided up

the Palestinian-Israelis

and divided the sub-divisions.

And then they expanded

Jerusalem's question mark.

And then there is...

And the status of this number

in Israel?

The flag is so huge

that it's...

It doesn't end

with me there

now on the screen.

No,

but it gets a lot of criticism

about the number.

And the time that I...

It's very interesting.

And then there is...

I see that

not long ago,

as a Norwegian diplomat,

I still have to wonder

if it was good or bad.

But some of what it also did

was that

the Palestinian pull

into...

I started talking about

both a state

and a Palestinian leadership.

And the Palestinians

pulled into

as their own

state actors

in relation to Israel.

So there are many things

with that number.

I...

I think

it's...

You won't know

that it was

such a disadvantage

for the Palestinians.

No,

it was such a bad thing.

Yes,

and how are we going to

divide up these countries?

How are we going to

get the Palestinians

to become economic

sub-divisions?

And the Israelis

are still

the Palestinians?

Shouldn't that be

a strong economic

historical factor

there?

No.

And then

there are just

the possibilities

for a responsibility.

There are many

types of restrictions,

but how

are you actually

going from...

It's not like

it's a Norwegian

who invaded Sweden

so now

we have

two different

states

that are now

going to start

negotiations.

It's

a way to

stabilize

the big,

heavy state processes

that are

a little

complicated.

Very

complicated,

that too.

That too.

I think

it's because

it doesn't work

that fast.

I

could talk

a lot about

it,

but we

can't

sit here

the whole season.

So

now we're

going to talk

about

how it is down there.

No difference

between

me and

you.

Okay,

you also live in Israel.

What can you tell me

about our

life in Israel?

What is the difference

between life in Norway

and Israel

from each other?

We can start

with the weather,

for example.

How hot is the weather?

Hot.

Very hot.

How hot is the

weather in Israel?

It's hot.

It's very hot

in Tel Aviv.

So

you get that

kind of

East-East Asia feeling.

Yes, it's

very hot.

Yes.

And

while

up in the mountains

in Jerusalem

it's hot.

A different kind of heat.

It's still

extremely hot.

But

in the mountains

there are

a lot more clothes

in the season.

Yes,

there are a lot of clothes

in the season.

Is it

a grocery store

or

military store?

In Tel Aviv

there are

a lot of

comfortable clothes.

Is that

correct?

Yes.

I can say that

Tiret Zvi

is the place

that experienced

the hot weather in 1942.

54 degrees in the sky.

That's a lot.

Yes,

exactly.

But

if you

know the area

in Israel

they have

the cold weather

minus 14.2

in the

summer.

It's

14 degrees in the

summer.

It's funny

if you're

on an Israel tour.

But

you're also talking about

that it's

especially interesting

to take a pack

with you

ski

and special luggage

when you're going to the

middle east.

But it actually works.

Do you think so?

Yes,

I can.

Because

he's

slipping on the whole way.

It's

a little

expensive.

One thing

is that you can

take your legs

on

and it's

short

when you go

because

everything

is coming

to Israel.

And

the weather is so hot.

Yes,

but it's

not like that.

Because

it's hot

and even in winter

so

let's say

at the moment it was

January.

It's

fast 10-14 degrees

also in Jerusalem.

But

it's

so

cold.

It's

the

stone

wall

buildings

made

to keep

cool.

It's

so

I live here well, for example.

Yes.

And then

I work

as a director

of the Corpse

Corpse.

I choose

the setting I'm in.

I have a body.

Yes.

I think it's good.

Yes, it is good.

Yes.

But then we got

some bubble jacket.

Yes.

The one that

is in the front.

Light blue bubble jacket.

You used it

all the time.

You used it.

And

it was

14 degrees outside.

But

it's also cold.

Yes.

And it was also in January, right?

Because it's

a tiny bit of land, so you could

get both parts.

Yes, but

it has four

climate

zones.

Which is too much for

to see a little bit of land.

He also said

that it's

too much.

Yes.

Because it's

very much.

It's a very complicated

location.

Yes.

It would have been enough for

that little young man.

Yes, I know.

And

people live

in the big city

of Lanskysten.

That's

possible to say.

And

this is

exactly what

it comes on.

Which vibe

do you want to have?

It's not true.

I have a question

that is very good

exactly.

Yes.

Because

it can be a bit of a

surprise, because

Jesus asks

Morten Berges

asks

where in

Israel do you get

the real

Oh, Jesus

went here

feeling?

That's

something you have to

have with

when you

go to Israel.

Where

do you get it?

Yes, where do we get it?

Well,

that is

what you can say

about the open

world

being self-sufficient

in Jerusalem.

Oh, yes.

Just like

because

you can rush

to see Monahage.

Exactly.

It's a cultural holiday.

Exactly.

And then you can

walk

through Donorosa

and all that.

And Donorosa

is not just

Donorosa.

It's

where

Godgata and

Godgata and

Godgata.

Is it?

Yes.

Because

it's called

Godgata.

Exactly.

Because

it's there

and there

we have to know

that Jesus

went up

and cried

with

Christ.

Yes.

It's

very funny to

talk to you.

It's part

of a

Palestinian girl

and

actually

a friend of mine

from Bryne.

We can

sit on the top

and

when I

answer

Because then

he comes

to the Philippines

and he runs

and it's

a lot of

things going on.

A lot of animals.

And

at the same time

we live

and people

call it

ordinary life

and it's

just about

trading.

Yes.

A little money

a lot of money.

A lot of money.

A lot of money.

A lot of money.

A lot of money.

A lot of money.

A lot of money.

But

it's

Yes, yes.

But around

Easter

people come

to call it

procession.

Yes.

And then

it rushes

them

in.

But then

these are the

most.

They're

a little park.

It's

a tiny park.

Yes

yes.

I

want to tip it

30x40m

maybe.

A tiny

park.

Yes.

And the rustling down, the little search and life in the mountains, and then it is a bit up

again to the old town that goes in there, and in Viedal Rosar or Golgatha.

And then they have such processions, and around the time of the rain, they are the ones who really

want to do that, right?

They are spying on each other, like, mystery.

It is clear that if you then at the same time, do not think that it is so new with Viedal

Rosar, if you live in Viedal Rosar.

Yes, because it is a everyday thing that happens.

Some live in Viedal Rosar 34B, right?

Yes, it is not like that.

And then they go home and...

They should go up to 7.

Yes.

And then there comes one of the Filipinos who will be spying on each other.

But you do not have to get parked because there are so many cars on the road.

It is a bit like that.

And then I just stick it on the door, and I'm just going to...

This was fun.

Here came the procession, the singing procession, with the same hats.

There are a lot of people like that, right?

Right.

There are a lot of yellow hats, actually.

But they also...

I do not know which journey it is, but they sing.

Oh, yes, a net-up.

Yes, but completely boring.

Yes, I understand.

You may not hear it, but it is a completely singing Catholic choir.

Yes.

And as you said during Easter, there are a lot of...

There are a lot of...

A lot of...

A lot of things that draw on the course.

But it is very interesting.

It is with the sharing between a daily life for ordinary people.

Yes.

How big is the Go Gata Donor Rosar?

And then the whole little old town of Jerusalem, which has a lot of this here,

including the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Klagemurn.

It is once a quarter of a kilometer.

It is divided into four quarters.

Once a kilometer?

Yes.

That is very small.

So it is a little less than that too.

It is in the middle of the Middle East of Jerusalem.

Okay.

So this is compact.

Exactly.

Yes.

But it is central, if you live there, so you live central and...

Yes, but it is not really a place where you live.

Is it a place in Go Gata?

In Go Gata?

No, but it is a hostel like a part of a backpacker I live on.

Yes.

So there you have a lot of places to stay.

There is a lot of stuff there.

There is no room for people who live there.

Yes, but you can enjoy being in the old town at night.

Okay, tell me.

Yes, so it is known to be a part of...

So it is the so-called Yrne Basar Life on the day.

And then just close it.

And then it is suddenly in the middle of the middle of a lot of small streets.

And then it is just all the smell and smell.

They have had a problem with a lot of dirt there.

Do you say that?

Inside there.

So it is a bit like...

Then I get a crash of civilization.

But this does not work for me.

That there is rust abuse on the streets as well.

But it is conceptually just crashes.

Yes, it is very.

At the same time there is something to be high on.

Yes.

But because it is like...

Both Israel and Palestine and many countries in the middle have a pretty big rust problem.

Okay.

And Palestine too.

There are not countries that have such a big level of alcohol abuse or alcohol abuse as we do.

But it becomes like...

The modern society problems meet the Bible.

Yes.

Yes, for example...

At the same time we have also said that it is just a street.

Yes, it is just a street.

And then you have to add a lot of historical, cultural and religious things.

But it is still just a street.

But it is like Jerusalem.

And you can experience it in a historical, significant way if you use...

Jerusalem Syndrome is a psychiatric diagnosis.

Do you say that?

Is it like Paris Syndrome?

What is the problem with Jerusalem Syndrome?

Jerusalem is a psychiatric diagnosis for people who travel to Jerusalem and get arrested by the Holy Spirit.

So they believe that they are Jesus, for example.

So they cannot get out of...

What is it called?

What is it called if you go in character, right?

Yes.

Yes.

So you are Jesus, for example, right?

Yes.

So it is your own clinic.

Do you have to be careful to get it?

Yes.

But then we also see that there are people who are not able to take responsibility for themselves

if you go around and believe in Jesus.

And it is very logical.

And you rush around in shorts and you end up in a modern life.

No.

And then you have to get into a psychiatric clinic.

It is your own treatment clinic for those who have been arrested by the Holy Spirit.

Okay.

Which then becomes, for example, Jesus.

Pontus Pilatus I have not heard of.

No, it is not him.

No, it is not.

Barabbas, he is in the court of Jesus.

It is not so cool to be him, he is a bull.

You want to hear it?

You want to hear it?

Or you will be a priest.

But at least...

But what they do is that they take people out of Jerusalem and send them to Jerusalem.

They are at home again.

So I am a little confused.

But it is like...

It is like...

I just came here a week ago.

The priest?

Yes.

Those who are excited about the Paris syndrome, you can hear it in the second episode.

But it is quite exciting.

It is more than...

It is a different way.

You get so scared about Paris that you get sick.

If you talk about drinking...

I mean, it is not...

In the Bible, Jesus made wine and all that.

It is very unsympathetic.

It is good for the children of alcohol abuse, for example.

But he did at least that.

And...

You mentioned that there is a little drinking.

Yes.

Because I would have understood the part of a religious life that worships Jesus, who is very good at alcohol.

Why not...

But it is a little, is what you say?

In Israel?

Yes.

So it means that they do not drink now?

No.

But...

And they drink a lot of good wine, right?

Yes.

Which is kosher.

Which is also a point, right?

Because it is clear that you will have...

Of course.

So you can...

Yes.

How they can eat food.

Yes.

But Israel has a significant problem of various types of drugs.

And as we have written, some of them...

What should we call it?

Military recognition.

Yes, exactly.

But they do not have the drinking culture that we have.

In that way.

It is very small.

But it is not a problem to drink...

It is not so cultured for it.

Yes.

Really.

Food.

Kosher, you mentioned it, right?

The health director says that meat from cloves, pig, blood, skull, blood is not for that.

Then you can not mix meat with milk and eat it right.

It is also a different kind of meat.

But it must be slaughtered in a special way.

Confiscated.

Here comes a word.

Sheath.

It has always been.

With S-C-H-E-C-H-T-E-R.

It does not mean E.

It is on the health directorate website.

And you are part of the law firm in Norway.

What do you take responsibility for?

I can talk to the chairman.

Is everything kosher in Israel?

Yes.

Yes?

Yes, so you can...

This is a bit of an exciting question.

But yes.

In Israel, there is food kosher.

Which means that it is well-matched to other rabbis.

And slaughtered in a special way.

But it is not as strict as it is in Islam.

But there is something different.

It is not the same.

Yes.

It is not the same.

But it is, for example, that it is on public places.

So you do not get things like that.

You are also under a PSA, for example.

Which is an egg meat dish.

Yes, on skewers.

Now you celebrate.

I would say that I am not so upset that I think the judge is Christian.

Maybe there are a few differences.

Is Abraham with the chairman?

Abraham.

Abraham.

Abraham is a father to both the judge and the chairman of Islam.

He must know that.

I would like to ask you a question about Abraham.

But I think that this question will be long enough.

It will be.

Yes.

But the PSA is a high time that has more religion.

We will not go into that.

But then there was no time for Jaira bread.

No.

Which means, for example, that Israel is free for, if you are going to buy a hamburger.

Or a pizza.

Then you just get a hamburger with flat bread.

No, you cut it.

Without cheese.

Because I do not allow meat and cheese together.

Can I have the butter?

If you can have butter there.

Then try to think about it.

I think it is a little creative.

Then you can have butter there.

Or you can do what someone does.

If you are secular, then you go over to the Palestinian part.

Network.

And then you get it.

Then you get the right and slightly good box.

It is actually, if you are going to buy burgers under the PSA.

Then it is also meat with flat bread.

It is not so attractive.

But when we think about it and they do not eat meat and cheese together.

Milk products together.

Then it seems like such a setting.

But if you practically mean.

See for yourself.

See for yourself.

Taco.

Or a pizza.

But pizza.

Yes, pizza.

Pizza is out of this world.

Pizza is not specifically Israel.

Tomatoes and cheese.

It is not really stupid.

But you just ...

They are very happy in their lives.

And live in London.

Yes.

It is also good.

Yes, it is super good.

It is called pepperoni, pork meat with mozzarella on it.

It is conceptually out of this world.

It is not so far away from the farmers.

It does not boil.

It does not boil.

There it is.

But the Israelis have the highest number of vegans per capita in the world.

About 5%.

There it is.

Yes.

They probably have a combination that it is a little cheaper meat than that.

Yes, it is very easy to be vegetarian.

Yes, because there is a lot of nice food.

And all that.

The other is a little promised.

So it is not so much cheaper.

And then there is a lot of salad.

There is no meal that is eaten without salad.

What I have read somewhere.

Here is salad for breakfast.

Salad for dinner.

Salad for dessert.

But there is a little bit of Turkish from other places.

But there is life and there are Turks.

And there are a lot of vegetables.

Yes.

Traffic.

Yes.

Israel.

Do you feel that the traffic is safe?

No.

But it is safe in Iran.

Iran is ...

I think so.

They are on.

If you look at the street, there is a loop.

Yes.

Israel has always been a street light.

A street light.

What does that mean?

That it does not blink.

It does not blink.

Yes, exactly.

But I think it does not blink.

No, I mean that they have a very regular traffic.

Yes, okay.

Because it is below.

It is far away from the traffic.

It is even around.

It is below a time limit in Saudi Arabia.

But they do not say much about it.

Below the middle part of Egypt.

Of course, Egypt is a powerful city before traffic.

Yes, exactly.

But they do not say that.

It does not free Israel.

No, exactly that.

Because it means that it is those who drive so well.

Israel's traffic yesterday has some pretty free speed and free traffic.

Yes, I got a little question about the average speed of 110 km per hour.

I have checked it out.

I do not think that any relationship is particularly much more.

And what do you mean by restaurants?

Do you think that the tourist part is a high culinary level to ask you?

Because I have such a sense of good restaurants.

Is it just your experience?

Yes, I do not think that the average food is very good.

But of course, now we can say that some people think that Israel is going to be easy on the

Indian food, that it is easy on the Arabic food, that it is easy on the other food.

But you can buy, you know, you should buy a postcard.

And you do not drive with that anymore until you send a text message.

But then you think, postcard from here, I think.

Then there is a picture of a pita bread with falafel on it.

And then there is a flag.

If there is an Israeli flag on it, I get a flag.

Greetings from Israel.

And then it goes five meters to the side.

Then you get an accurate picture of a Palestinian flag on it.

Greetings from Palestine.

So food and conflict goes hand in hand.

But most of them, if you go to a cafe, for example, you do not get a muffin of such a cup,

as we have on Espresso House, usually Espresso House.

Then you get Moroccan grite, you get tabbouleh, you get meze, falafel.

So it is very good food and also good street food.

Do you eat breakfast food when you are down there?

I do not eat breakfast in Norway, I can do that.

But you are not like that?

Yes, but here I should eat here.

I love it.

We have a little backstreet and maybe a little aspect party here in the room on the side.

Yes, but you do not eat breakfast.

Yes, but you do not eat breakfast.

Yes, but you do not eat breakfast.

Yes, but when you start something that is good with Norwegian breakfast, it is like,

oh, I get a kniper with brown cheese.

It is very good if you use real cheese.

And a good bread.

What is the most exciting city?

Is it Tel Aviv?

There is a very cool experience.

Is it a very cool experience?

Yes, but ...

There was a small damper on it in 2001, the Dolphinarium.

A big disco was thrown into the fields.

Of?

Hamas.

The time there is already 20 years ago.

But that has noticed all Israel's daily lives.

Because this is not to blend into the depression of the dead spurs.

But then there were so many self-made actions over relatively short periods

that Israel ended up being gathered in large places.

Yes.

It is true that all cafes and cafes and shops had a security factor

without checking what they had in their bags before they went in.

It is not because they are going to steal your things, you just have something to do with it.

Then it became less nice.

Israel ended up standing in a queue and ended up being in large collections.

And then it became very common to see security factors everywhere.

But then there was a damper on all this with disco and so on.

How is it that they have stopped all these actions?

What have they done?

It has become a very militarized struggle.

The only thing is, of course, that after the rescue,

I do something like a rescue.

And then it has to be done in relation to shooting down the rockets that come from Gaza.

You can say that the third point is that Israel has become very used to having security factors.

And many, many places.

Is it a big industry?

Very, very, very, very industry.

But the last thing that is perhaps most important is that Israel has been responsible for all this

and makes it much more difficult for Palestinians to move.

In Israel?

In Israel.

Exactly.

What have they built the huge wall that Trump said he was going to do?

Yes, and it has been done.

It was a wall between Israel and the West Bank.

And then someone says it is not a wall, but it is.

It is up to about 9 meters in some places.

9 meters?

But it is covered.

Yes, it is covered.

Yes.

In some places it is a core, but it is not a core that you just put through.

More militarized zones and such.

And then it has made it quite interesting to see.

On the Israeli side, a part of the core will be covered so that you do not see that it is there.

But it has a security side.

That means you look a little, and you do not see it from the Israeli side, but there is a high wall on the other side.

But this works for what is meant to work from the Israeli side.

Then you try to stop self-isolation and such things.

And for that, it has to work.

That is why I have it.

Is that so?

Yes, and that is the Israeli security argument.

Without taking into account the consequences, of course.

But that is the security argument here.

Then there is the side that also makes it...

Absolutely.

But on the other side...

Yes, that is what I was talking about.

But you have to understand why it is there, that is the reason.

Security is very cynical, in some way.

When you are going to make security regulations, they are often not based on sympathy, but very...

They have a little hatred towards it.

If I am to be safe, it means that I am just going to have a wall in front of me.

I have been...

With walls on the other side.

And then I will say that the criticism towards this is of course that the way it is done, I have invited to have it.

I mean, there is still hatred in front of the Israeli side, therefore.

So, if it works...

It works.

That is not what I set up for.

At least in the future.

And that is what we have to...

It is not completely random.

No.

I had a question for you, as I mean to say something about a country.

And it is there.

Have people not?

Yes.

People do not go on a tour with their dogs?

Yes, actually.

Do they?

I do not know what to say.

There is some peace and well-being over there.

Because you do not see it in the sense that a country in war is very exposed to people going with dogs.

So, what is there is very festive, that Tel Aviv has a lot of dogs.

Yes, they have a lot of dogs in Tel Aviv.

A lot of dogs.

Yes, great.

Shall we talk about what I have registered?

What did you say?

What I have registered.

Tell me.

Because Israel is a high-tech society.

This is a bomb for me, which I have read on this.

Israel and Tel Aviv are almost the largest way.

There are very few of them.

Yes.

It is such a huge tech hub.

And this, dear listeners.

On the other side.

Yes.

Israel is the reason why Israel is so far ahead in the whole of its corona war.

Because they were the best of all.

Yes, what did they do?

Now I can quiz you.

They built a wall around the whole of the world.

Yes, they actually did that.

No, they vaccinated them a little bit.

Israel is a high-tech nation.

It means that the whole health sector is highly digitized.

And they have large databases on their entire population.

So they searched, Benjamin Netanyahu, and looked out health data to Pfizer.

Pfizer gave and gave.

They gave more vaccines.

They could give more vaccines to Israel.

Vaccines and so on.

Fast.

That is why they got this.

It is a kind of data management director, Marietta, here too.

Absolutely.

And it has got a lot of both criticism and honor for it.

But...

Riser Rose.

Riser Rose.

Because potentially it has caused the population to be vaccinated faster.

And at the same time, some people say,

Hey, you have looked out.

You have looked us out.

Because that is the kind of powerful databases of the Israeli population.

But there they also have dog-bearing data.

I think that is a bit annoying.

Because if you miss your dog...

I hope so.

Yes, you know.

They don't want the Israelis...

They are the solution.

Okay.

They don't want to have it.

Then they will make the DNA data of your dog.

So if they find a dog that I think is solution,

then they can't avoid the dog-bearing data.

But they are also the smarter ones.

Network.

The dog-bearing data.

I will try to sit down here.

The dog-bearing data is complete.

I understand.

But it is...

It is usually a bit strange.

These high-tech things.

I understand.

But they have a dog.

You are going to talk a bit about the population there and the alternative there.

Can we talk a bit about the spread of the population?

Oh, Lord Baleva,

penima,

nefeshyehudi,

oh, mia.

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Nefeshyehudi, oh, mia.

What is it?

And then you hear it on the radio,

one of them says,

slash,

oh, yeah,

slash.

And then you hear it,

what did you say,

you call,

and then there's a woman sitting there,

and she calls on the phone,

it's from Airstod,

Dutta for Tel Aviv,

and says,

one or the other,

and then we go into the discussion.

Totally sublime.

If we talk about Israel,

they have a lot of language to say about them,

and that if there are two types of rooms,

there are ten different meanings and all that.

We are UNI.

They're proud of you, maybe?

Yes, yes.

And in Norway,

it's like,

it's not that I'm UNI,

it's not that I'm not UNI,

I'm actually UNI.

It's not that you say it's wrong,

it's just that I might look a little different,

but it's not like that.

If you think it's uncomfortable to see FRP in a debate with Rødt,

because we know that I'm not UNI,

and then they're standing in it,

and then they try to civilize it,

at the same time.

Yes, but I think it's more uncomfortable that I'm UNI,

it's like in the middle,

you can't find any unity.

It's like,

I'm thinking of my heart.

And then you say,

oh, you're talking to each other,

but instead of just two of them,

I'm also so UNI with you.

It's not like we've drunk some coffee

and get to be UNI.

We are UNI,

and it's something very,

very nice with a culture that pulls from

that we humans can actually sit

and drink coffee together,

but we have to be very Russian and UNI.

There we have some teachers,

as well.

There are some with some teachers,

the Israelis.

It's a lot of fun to be UNI.

I'm being bullied in Norway.

You're being bullied because you've learned

the Israeli method.

Yes, yes, yes, right.

And then you just say,

but I'm UNI with you.

But you actually have to say,

no, but we...

Yes.

Right.

Because we had responsibility.

But it's been noticed that

one third of the members today

are born in a different country.

Nine out of ten, 90%,

are either born in a different country

or one of them is born in a different country.

So here you will have a lot of people

with different cultures

and fun in a northern country

which is a big deal

with the equivalent.

Yes, you're right.

It shows that they are multi-cultural.

Right?

On taking to a new level.

Because they are like you say,

they have legs in two different cultures

and two different nations all together.

Right?

And they are multi-cultural.

Half-engaged, half-Israeli way of thinking and...

Yes.

A little bit like the Americans can be

just that the Americans,

when they say that they are half-Norwegian,

it's so far back

that they don't know where the world is in Norway.

I'm not interested enough in that either.

No, no, no.

Right.

Do the Israelis say

that they are Israeli abroad?

That's what I'm asking in Europe.

Thank you.

I would just like to...

Which country?

I don't know.

Maybe in the US.

Maybe not so easy in Egypt.

Let's get back to that.

We have a little bit of conflict here and there.

And honestly, when Israel is in conflict,

for example in the war with Lebanon,

we see that the Israelis abroad

have dampened what to say

where they come from.

We see that it will go a little bit

different, say that there are

different conflicts there, right?

So they travel with a Canadian flag on their back,

like the Americans do when they...

Right.

From Canada.

All of them from Canada.

All of them from Canada.

So that's really cool.

They have a military service that is pretty cool.

And you mentioned something to me on the phone,

which I thought was a bit surprising,

because a consequence of a lot of this military work

is that they often end up, after a military service,

becoming very New Age-like.

That's fantastic.

That it's a kind of New Age epidemic.

Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Yes, they have a military service

that is 24 months old for women

and 36 for boys.

Yes.

There are a few other friends who have a service

that everyone is supposed to have in the military.

Now it's a bit sadder,

but it's like two out of two or three years, right?

Yes, because the ULTRA also,

they are very happy that they are going to

leave the military service, right?

Yes.

And now they have to, in principle,

but not in practice,

because the Israeli defense forces,

they are just, okay,

but what should we use them for?

They can't read and write.

They can't read and write?

No, because they live with Tamouda,

Tora Studio and such.

IDF has always been very skeptical

about taking in people who have to leave

the military service.

Yes, exactly.

Okay.

So it's a bit out of the past.

Yes.

But the point was not that,

it was New Age.

Because it's a big military service?

Yes.

And when it has been very violent,

and there have been wars and conflicts

and invasions and so on,

we see that those who leave

the military service,

they wish for a little different experience.

So they are going to South America

or India.

Yes.

A lot of people believe that

Israeli groups are there.

Okay.

And it is...

I have believed that

I have heard some rumors

about Israeli ex-military

tourists,

who are negative.

Tell them,

India was there.

Yes.

It was the Israelis,

when the Israelis came

and killed and broke.

Yes.

But the unity of the Israeli military,

the unity of those who travel

to search for flight together.

Yes.

From Israel over to India.

They have their own detox unity,

from the idea that they are trying

to get them back,

when they end up too much

on the Russian side.

Yes.

Or become one there.

But the point is that

those in the group there,

they wish to go into

a lot of orange boxes

and be a little Christian, Christian.

Yes.

And they have to go to the beach

in Tel Aviv also,

a lot of bungalows.

Yes.

And then they can go to the evening

and you can be with them,

play in the room

and take on them

to know how long they wait

and dance a little.

You know,

they are just standing there

feeling the music.

Yes.

I am very often very stubborn

and feel very little.

I can't see myself.

A little bit like

my tears,

something like that.

What do they work with

when they travel?

A little bit of a smooth story

that I have had a few times.

Just work with?

Yes.

For tech.

I was surprised.

I think that the diamond

polishing industry

is about 25%

of exports and such.

A remarkable industry.

Yes.

In Netanyahu,

Netanyahu,

Netanyahu,

Netanya,

I mean,

it is a very developed

and well-developed

diamond industry.

Yes.

But it is also

not surprisingly sad.

Of course,

sad.

There are

a lot of religious

sad stories with it.

Yes.

And

it is quite difficult,

of course.

Yes, of course.

And then there is high-tech.

So

I would like to

answer simply

your question.

You can't do that

at all.

I would like to

say something about this.

I am

a bit concerned

about democracy.

Because

on the

democracy index,

in the world,

there is Norway in the first place.

And it is nice to talk about

all other countries.

Norway is at

9.81

on this scale

from 0 to 10.

New Zealand

in the second place,

but 9.61

far back,

so to speak.

They are

completely empty.

And there are

only 24 countries

that function

as a democracy.

That is,

the 29th place,

the place in front of the US

on this scale.

So

there is

an incomplete democracy

with it.

It is quite

highly functioning,

in that way.

And then

the other way,

we go down

under 6,

then we come down

to the

so-called

hybrid regime.

There is

Ukraine

in the 87th place.

It has

a total of

4.32

which is

more or less.

So

under the

4th level

after that,

Egypt

2.93

Russia

2.28

We are

very much

interested in the

3rd level

after that,

China

1.94

Syria

1.43

North Korea

1.08

and it is

a level

under that

4th level

after that

where there are

two countries,

Myanmar

0.78

and Afghanistan

0.32

the two

least democratic

like

Yes

but is

the democratic

statistics and he can

tell us

that you can play with

you can play with of course

Yes

and

drive with the

realisation

Yes

Do you mean

that those who are

behind the

democracy index

drive with it

or do you mean

your brother?

Yes

I just

said

that I have

learned from my brother

Yes

and that

he is

absolutely right

There are

two reasons for that

Okay

The one is

that

what we have to do

with the growth of the population

that

those who get

most children

are the ultra orthodox

Yes

who get

I can't

speak the language

but they get

so white I know

about 37 children

per pair

it's magic

while the secular

get

unknown to two

Yes

so when they

get older

they get

ultra orthodox

they

do not know

or

and do not

know

in the society

is the right choice

So

if we look at

this way

Israel

is

the next

20 years

quite interesting

Yes

it's a little bit more

for the

Jewish

secular

part of

Yes

and it's the

Jewish secular

Israelis

who are

like

us

who

democracy

Yes

people are like us

Yes

So

the other reason

that I say yes

that I believe

is because

the

democratic system

is

what

people believe

took on

Benjamin Netanyahu

I have

many corrupt

a lot

of

corruption

against

when I get a little bit

like Trump

as long as he

is the top boss

he can

buy out of

himself

which is

completely free

which makes

Israel

at a

lesser degree

believes in politics

believes in

Knesset

they experience

the

political system

as corrupt

Knesset is

a big thing

Yes

You know

I have

a share

that

I always

share

with

all of them

is

the

Jewish

with

different

them

and

mine

In this

I present

the fact that

you hopefully

feel that the correct

response from

your side

will be yes

We try

and it is

completely broken

The first

because it is

very funny

how it came

because

I asked

Israel

I asked

Israel

on Twitter

if they

a

something I

will say

in English

they said

that

the mount of olives

is the oldest

continuously used

place in the world

and has been

over 3,000 years

Thank you

Now

that is

also in the part

of Jerusalem

as a

district

Of course

they

drive

all the time

The first

answer

is

something

they

know

It is

a completely different

response than

Yes

Yes 2

The artist

who participated

in the

Eurovision Song Contest

for Israel in 2003

His name is

Leo Narciss

I think he is

the last year

he is called Narciss

Israel

has the highest

number of altruistic

new donations

per capita

in the world

about 91 in the year

Yes

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I have

I don't have a clue about the Christmas tree.

Yes, I do. I'm sure they have a rope in there.

Yes, I think so.

I've seen so many movies where they have it, so if you don't have it, I'll get it.

Yes, I don't think about the Christmas tree, but there are different people.

The Holy Grave Church is a Christian church in that place that is called Reina,

where Jesus was a ghetto.

On the outside, there is a three-step right up to one of the windows,

and it has been there since the 1800s.

Yes, you can't move it.

No one is one of those responsible for it.

There are a lot of different instances that have to be responsible for the church,

and no one is able to determine who is going to get away from it.

Isn't that great?

When you walk in there, there are a lot of lines of gold on the wall and things like that,

because all the churches have their own little place.

Yes, inside the same church.

Is there such an upper floor on that ladder?

No, it's not yours, it's not mine either.

And it's very, very hot, that ladder, to be so old,

because I've seen the picture on Facebook, and it's very good.

When I say Facebook, it means internet.

Israel is an urban country.

It's not.

But they don't stop from it, and have an Olympic bobbledag.

Yes.

Israel recirculates 90% of the population of the country,

including the world's most foreign recirculating nation.

Yes, yes.

I was lost in my mouth.

Yes, you were.

In July 2012, a group of artists in Etania made the world's largest mosaic of sugar.

12,000 sugar was used.

Yes.

An Israeli company has developed a revolutionary product for sugar healing,

which is a kind of skin you can spray on the skin.

The skin on the box is...

It's a bit nice, though.

If you don't get the answer to the question,

spray on a little extra skin on the box, and then spray on again.

You can't eat the skin in Israel.

Israel recirculates most of the recirculation per capita in the world,

and it's free for the first two children.

Yes, do you see that?

Yes.

Then I recirculated the skin.

Yes.

I got it.

We are ready for Lytter Spursmål.

Björn Ramnos, Lure som vanlig på, i Spalten Lytter Spursmål,

dem forteller de svenska vitser om.

Lutman har lagt en sån autogreis,

som alltid kommer med till de spursmål,

för det kommer all till första alle Lytter Spursmål.

Ta bort den och få såg under vägen.

Hi Björn.

De har ikke svenska vitser.

Nej, men liban någon vitser på det.

Nej, men nej, nej.

Nej, de har ikke det liksom.

De fort har väldigt höj cellironi.

De går innover?

Ja, forteller mycket om sån,

om det är mycket Israelere,

och har mycket vitser om sig selv.

Men inte sån nedsett,

när antisemitiska vitser om sig selv?

Nej.

Men nu kan jag,

sånt,

det är nog jag ska sagt,

för exempel den vitsen som,

och så husker jag den inte.

Så den bruker så morsom.

Det är inte så morsom då, nej?

Nej, det är inte så.

Morten Jacobsen,

Lure på,

vore startet ryktende

om att gödende styrer verden?

Och där har jag gjort lite research,

hvis du har...

Och den bruker jag svar på.

Nej, för att de flesta

är genom att be startet

med något som heter

Sions visas protokoller,

som är russisk producerat bok

som utgör sig

för att vara

en hemlig protokollen

fra den första sionistkonferensen

i Basel i 1897,

som vi har nämnt lite till i det här.

Och här,

i den här forfasningen,

så kommer det fram att verdens herredömen

måla med sionismen.

Kanske om de här protokoller

har varit behörd i dokumentärt,

som i förfaltningar,

i over 100 år,

så lever de alltså vidare där,

vore,

skulle jag säga,

vilja sterk,

och den kritiske sansen

motsatt proportional,

av det.

Och det har blivit oversatt

det här uravspråk,

brukes främdeles

som dokumentation

blandt konspiratorik

och antisemitter.

Och faktiskt,

så är store delar

av den boka.

Det här sår egentligen

att det är bara en plagiat,

en fransk bok

från 1864

om Machiavelli.

Så det kan bara

plockesättning och fortsättning.

Men det hjälper liksom

inte,

det är för folk vil

tro på det liksom.

Och i tillägg

så må man

huske då,

att den tio sions

visa-protokoller

ble produsert,

så var ju

den jödiske befolkningen

minoriteter

av hela verden.

De jobbar hårt

för att sikre egen

akonomi.

Det blev brukt mot dem,

snydd till

att de är grådige

och att de är

sån e-boende

personelsträck på grupperna

och för alla jöder

att de är så griske och grådige.

Och det där

blev alltså för det där

ytterligare

tror,

vi måste rettelsi,

är startpunkter

för den

lite kokotanken

om att

jöderna ska

ta det hela verden.

De lyckes

inte forlöpa.

Asså är det alldeles,

andra är exakt i forhand

till att de

inte hade egen hans rätt då.

Det är akkurat det

också,

att de skulle ta

det hela verden

när de inte har

egen hans rätt.

Exakt.

Kärste linjem,

hunsberg.

Varför blev de

med i MGP?

Asså,

det är inte riktigt

för det är MGP,

Norsk ut,

i dengangsidan,

för det israjare blev

med 1973,

de vundit 4 ganger,

gråter er till deres

sajnste 2018

och det

är för de

de hade lyst

och för de

de medlevde

Eurovision Broadcasting Union

det är

och det som både

är kriterier

i motsättning

till

folk tror

att det ligger i Europa

för det ligger i oasis

eller där.

Men det kan

vara med

när det är

med i Eurovision Broadcasting Union

så det kan

libra åträ.

Vi kan väl meldet

sig på

Do you have Sabat's house in public building?

Yes, I have it.

Can you explain what Sabat's house is?

Sabat is in Gødvamme following the moon calendar and not the sun calendar, which is from the sun going down.

And not from 4 o'clock.

Not from 4 o'clock, not from 0-0.

No.

It's pretty stable in that area, isn't it? It's not like...

I don't think it's the sun.

I don't think it's the sun.

I don't think it's the sun.

But that means, on Saturday, which is the public building, which is from Friday night to Saturday night, you're not going to work.

No.

On the seventh day, you're not going to work and you're just going to work.

I've been told by the ten that you're included and you're just pressing the button.

I think it's the other way around.

You're not going to make a bowl and you're not going to make a bowl?

You're not going to make a bowl?

You're not going to make a bowl?

No, you're going to make a bowl in the front, and Sabat's food is slow cooking.

You sit on the grill for a day and you're just standing there.

I've been told by Sabat's food that you're going to slip and press the button, but you're still going to be able to make a bowl.

You're allowed to go.

But how does the bowl work?

It just goes automatically.

You just have to stand and wait for it to come, and then you have to get that round.

Maybe not get round, because it doesn't go round.

Let's say you're standing in the fourth floor and want to go down to the first, but it has the bowl on the way up.

And then you go in the fourth floor and get up like that again.

You hear that?

In the back, Lande asks, is it true that Israel doesn't have a basic promise?

Yes.

Wow.

Yes.

Yes, that's true.

They have a lot of promises to make more basic promises.

Yes, basic promises, basic laws.

But the big ones don't do that, do they?

No, they don't.

Do you see that?

We'll leave that hanging there.

We can post things like that and just let it live.

Thanks for coming.

It's because you've probably put us in a difficult situation with the BG2.

I'm wondering what's coming.

Dear Eina, now we're out on a thin line of BG2.

A thin green line?

No, that's not true.

We're running out of time. Thank you for today.

And to all of you who are very excited now, remember to come to the Palestine episode.

Thank you.

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