Global News Podcast: Donald Trump reacts to grand jury indictment

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Hallo, ich bin Oliver Conway. Wir haben das am 31. März auf dem 30-Jahr GMT auf dem

Freitag am 31. März.

Also in der Podcast.

Ursprachd reaching

und seine Kritik.

Donald Trump himself has said he is completely innocent and reportedly wants to be hauled into court in Handcuffs in order to turn it into a spectacle.

So when is he likely to appear in court?

Ich habe mit dem Correspondent Netta Taufik in New York gesprochen.

Er würde hier sein, wo ich bin, zuerst in der Stadt-Attorneys-Office zu sein. Er hat sein Mugshot gegeben, wie jeder andere Defender.

Er ist natürlich ein former Präsident.

Er wird von seinem Secret Service-Detail geschorfen.

Trumps Lawyer sagen, dass er nicht in Handcuffs sein wird.

Und dann wird er in front eines Judges in den Court zu hören, die Formelistik gegen ihn zu hören und zu bewerben.

Es wird schon ein guter Szenen sein. Wir haben die Welt mit dem Medien hier in Lower Manhattan zu sehen.

Er hat gesagt, er sei arguably die least seriösste, die er vorhanden ist.

Aber wir wissen nicht, was in diesen Chargen ist.

Es könnte ein Mr. Meeney mit etwas mehr Seriöse sein.

Das ist genau richtig.

Und das Entzündungsamt wird unterstehen, bis der erste Court-Appearance von Trumps.

Es ist noch ein paar Tage, bis wir wissen, was in diesen Chargen ist.

Aber wir haben bereits den Bericht von US-Media zu hören, dass es mehr als 30 Begründungsreffordungen für falsche Begründung gibt.

Wie youth mentioned, das ist eine wast.]

Es stapliert alle.

die Politiker, die für die Linie zwischen ihrer persönlichen Finanzung und der Campaign-Kontributions

betrug.

So, das ist ein Fall, das eine sehr große Spotleite hat, nicht least, weil Mr. Trump auch für

jetzt den Frontrunner für die Republikanzen in 2024 ist.

Netta Taufik in New York.

Die Todeszeit der South-African-Model Riva Steenkampon, Valentines Day, 10 Jahre ago,

machte Headlines um die Welt.

Sie war verletzt von ihrer Freundin, der former Paralympian Oscar Pistorius.

Er sagte, er dachte, er fahre an einen Intruder, aber war eventuell verletzt von ihrem

Mörder.

Als wir dieses Podcast rekordeten, hat ein Parole-Bord in Südafrika den ersten Ende des

13-Jährigen.

Unser Korrespondent Andrew Harding in Pretoria hat mehr.

Ich bin froh, es ist eine ziemlich fastige Situation, das South-African-Justice-System

sehen, wie es eine große Messe gemacht hat.

Wir werden jetzt lernen, dass heute das Parole-Bord im ersten

Bereich nicht vorhin gehen sollte.

Das ist, weil die Präsen-Authorsten hier ein Letter bekommen haben, drei Tage

ago, am tuesday dieser Woche, erklärt, dass das Oscar Pistorius nicht wirklich

serviert, according to their calculations, half his time in prison, half of his sentence.

In fact, that time will come next August in 2024.

Now, I spoke just a short while ago to Oscar Pistorius, his uncle Arnold, who was mystified,

who said it was clear to him, that he had served half his sentence and he said he would

be getting legal advice on how this confusion could have arisen.

What seems to have happened though is that because Pistorius was initially sentenced once,

that was appealed, he was sentenced again, he spent some time in prison, he spent some

time under house arrest, then he spent another longer period, which he's currently still

doing, in prison, there's confusion about exactly when his sentence should be considered

to have started.

And it seems like the Supreme Court of Appeal here and the Chief Justice have decided it

only began on the last time he began his prison sentence.

So they're taking the strictest interpretation of the law, if you like.

Andrew, that, as you said right at the beginning there, is not a situation that covers the justice

system there with much glory.

Can we get to the substance of the issue as opposed to the justice system, but as opposed

to the family of Riva Steenkamp and the reaction there?

Well they've said they welcome this delay, they argued in the parole board, in the prison

here behind me where Pistorius is still incarcerated, they argued today that they didn't believe that

he was genuine in his remorse, they still insist that Oscar Pistorius needs to confess to killing

Riva Steenkamp, his girlfriend, deliberately.

A court has never ruled on that, it simply ruled that Pistorius should have known that

whoever was hiding behind his bathroom door would die when he shot three times through

that closed door.

But the Pistorius family insists that Pistorius has not shown remorse, has not admitted the

truth and therefore should stay in prison.

But we also know that Pistorius and his lawyers argued that he has shown remorse, he's met

Riva Steenkamp's father last year and expressed his remorse again and apologized for his actions.

We also know that prison officials and social workers have spoken about his behavior during

the last years in prison and leaked information from a previous court dispute seems to indicate

that prison officials believe that Pistorius in general has behaved well and that in their

view he's ticked the right boxes to be allowed out on parole.

But clearly that's not going to happen at least for some time as more clarity no doubt

is sought and more lawyers get involved in trying to work out where and when Pistorius

could be eligible for parole.

Andrew Harding in Pretoria.

The actress Gwyneth Paltrow has been awarded a symbolic sum of one dollar after winning

a two week court battle over a skiing incident in 2016.

He's been sued by 76-year-old retiree Terry Sanderson who accused the Hollywood star of crashing

into him at a resort in the US state of Utah.

From there our correspondent Sophie Long has this report.

The Oscar winning actress has been present throughout this trial, has been streamed around

the world like a reality TV courtroom drama.

He said he broke four ribs and has permanent brain damage but she said she suffered too.

She has deterred you from enjoying the rest of what was a very expensive vacation.

Well I lost half a day of skiing.

He said he was hit from behind.

I heard something I've never heard of the ski resort and that was a blood curdling

scream.

Just I can't do it.

And then.

So she gave a different version of the collision.

I was skiing and two skis came between my skis forcing my legs apart and then there was

a body pressing against me and there was a very strange grunting noise.

So my brain was trying to make sense of what was happening.

I thought am I, is this a practical joke?

Is someone like doing something perverted?

This is really, really strange.

May I ask how tall you are?

I'm just under five, ten.

With some of Miss Paltrow's testimony as left field as her lifestyle tips, the trial

became an unexpected social media circus.

With every day and every outfit, people around the world devoured the details.

And late night hosts turned the case into comedy.

He's a bumbling optometrist, she's a celebrity mogul, they collide on a ski mountain and

either one can remember what happened.

It was Christmas, Seema Hallmark's newest hit, Goopsy Daisy, a ski accident of the heart.

Thank you.

But no one was laughing here.

Mr Sanderson's lawyers tried to paint a picture of an entitled celebrity, lacking in care for

the little people.

And Miss Paltrow's legal team said he wanted to hold her accountable for the unwanted effects

of aging and exploit her high profile and wealth.

For a trial lasting nearly two weeks, it took the jury just two hours to decide that it was

not Miss Paltrow, but Mr Sanderson, who had been responsible for the crash.

As the actress and influencer left court, she went to see the man whose accusations had

brought her here and said, I wish you well.

Sophie Long reporting from Utah.

It's claimed that plants respond well to being talked to, but now it seems they can sort

of talk back.

That is the sound made by a grapevine in response to being cut.

A new study from Israeli researchers published in the scientific journal Cell reveals details

of sounds made by different plants when put under stress.

And they're louder than you might think.

David Lewis has the details.

It's a major scientific breakthrough that could well have a huge impact on how we farm

in the future.

Researchers at Tel Aviv University recorded ultrasonic plant sounds inside a soundproof

chamber and a greenhouse, and they provoked the plants, not watering them and cutting stems

produced an audible response, similar to popcorn bursting and the popping of bubble wrap.

And fascinatingly different flora let out different calls.

Here's what emaciated wheat sounds like.

From this, of course, is a tomato plant that hasn't received enough water.

The researchers suspect the popping noise is a byproduct of cavitation, when tiny bubbles

burst and produced mini shockwaves inside the plant's vascular system.

Plants clicked much more when they were under stress.

Interestingly, scientists found the sounds were emitted at a volume similar to that of

human speech.

And if you think you can lean down and listen in, you'll be sadly disappointed.

For the study, specialist microphones recorded frequencies of up to 250 kHz, florists, gardeners

and ramblers can only hear up to 16 kHz.

The plant's high-pitched frequencies have been lowered so we can all hear them.

But while humans can't hear this unhappiness in the undergrowth, there's animals out there

who can.

Researchers believe bats, mice and insects can probably recognise the noises being made.

Professor Lilla Khedani, who co-authored the study, said the data could help farmers going

forward.

We believe that humans can utilise this information given the right tools, such as sensors that

tell growers when plants need watering.

Apparently an idyllic field of flowers can be rather a noisy place, she wrote.

David Lewis reporting.

And still to come on the podcast.

Those snatched moments, the 20 minutes when you're waiting at the luggage carousel.

You used to have to do nothing but go into your thoughts.

Now we'll take out our phone, we've been deprived of a signal for a couple of hours in an airplane.

And maybe we don't have quite as rich an inner life.

We hear from the acclaimed writer Ian McEwan.

Abnormal Transactions, some kind of cyber attack on a bank, tens of millions of dollars, something

I don't think anybody has seen before.

The cybercriminal group from the BBC World Service.

The Lazarus Heist is back for season two.

It was really like in the movies.

Find out more at the end of this podcast.

Until February last year, Butcher was known as a quiet family friendly suburb of the Ukrainian

capital Kiev.

But then the Russian invaders arrived and it became infamous for the atrocities they committed

against civilians.

Ukraine says at least 461 people were murdered there.

It is now a year since Russian troops fled the area.

And the Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky, has marked the moment by visiting Butcher

and handing out medals to those who helped liberate it.

President Zelensky, who was accompanied by European leaders from Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia

and Moldova, promised to punish the Russians over their war crimes and said Ukraine would

ultimately triumph.

The battle for the foundation of the free world is taking place on Ukrainian soil.

We will definitely win.

Russian evil will fall right here in Ukraine and will not be able to rise again.

Our correspondent Hugo Butcher in Butcher told me about life there under the brief but

horrific Russian occupation.

In his interview contained some disturbing details.

Butcher is one of those cities that will forever be remembered as the site of some of the worst

atrocities committed by Russian forces here in Ukraine.

I went to Yablinsk street earlier today and this is the street where bodies of civilians

were left in the open.

Those images shocked all of us.

People who were trying to see a relative, were trying to flee and were executed.

Also, there were the rape allegations, the torture chambers, so almost everyone here witnessed

the brutality of the occupation.

And I've been talking to Lydia, who witnessed some of the crimes committed by Russian soldiers.

I passed by the house and I heard screams and the sound of gunshots.

They created a torture chamber in that house, a man who tried to escape was shot, a friend

of my son was carrying food for his parents.

He was caught by the Russians, they gouged his eyes out.

His ears and nose were cut off.

He was later found dead with his hands tied.

We are describing what happened in Butcher in the early days of the invasion and what

of efforts to find justice for the victims of those crimes.

There is a massive effort to collect evidence of possible war crimes, to interview people

like Lydia, who saw those alleged crimes.

And international experts, human rights activists, volunteers are working here.

Not only in Butcher, but across Ukraine to collect this evidence, because President Zelensky

has been saying that any kind of resolution to this conflict needs to involve the creation

of a special tribunal to prosecute those people who are accused of committing crimes here

in Ukraine.

A year after the Russians left, just describe for us how Butcher looks today.

In the main parts of the city, where the Russians had their bases, where we've seen those atrocities

being committed, there's been a massive international effort to rebuild the city.

But you still see signs of the occupation, bullet holes in some walls and doors and some

houses that have been partially destroyed.

And if you talk to residents, all of them have memories of life under occupation here.

And what is interesting is that when I was talking to Lydia, he said, look, yes, today

we're here marking this occasion one year after the city was liberated.

But remember, that millions of people are still under Russian occupation in other parts

of the country.

So perhaps the war is over here, but the war itself is far from over.

You go.

Butcher, you're talking to me from the Ukrainian town of Butcher.

As we record this podcast, at least 35 people are confirmed to have died in the Indian city

of Indore, after the floor of a Hindu temple caved in on Thursday, worshipers had been praying

when a platform covering a well collapsed.

I heard more about what went wrong from our South Asia regional editor, Anbarasan Etirajan.

Yesterday was one of the biggest Hindu festivals called Ram Navami.

And during this festival, hundreds of people go to various temple across the country to

pray and then to offer and they have celebrations.

And in this particular temple in Madhya Pradesh State in Central India in Indore city, people

are standing on the platform of a big well.

And then this side step well, people usually go down to take water.

This water is also used for temple as well as regarded as holy.

And because there was overcrowding, the grill and a bit of a concrete on top of the well

just caved in, plunging dozens of people into the well, you know, deep as eight meters.

Also, unfortunately, number of people, men, women, children died, the rescue first were

going on.

But then it created a lot of panic also.

And now the government says that, you know, they almost completed the operation.

They believe maybe one or two people may be still stuck and they rescued a lot of injured

people and they have been admitted to hospital and they are now investigating how this happened

and whether they could have avoided this.

Ja, I mean, this must raise questions about safety at other temples and other places where

there's platforms over wells.

It's not only about platform or wells, we were talking about thousands, tens of thousands,

sometimes hundreds of thousands, the Hindu religious festivals in India.

So what is lacking here is cloud control.

The temple authority sometimes might expect 500 people, then suddenly you will see 5000

people.

It's a struggle to manage how so many people are coming in.

And people would want to, you know, get the view or the blessings of the Lord, you know,

first and they want to go back home early.

And also the lack of security forces, they can't be deployed everywhere, because, you

know, there may be like 100 temples in a district.

How many police officers you can deploy to, you know, each temples.

And many of these temples, some of them have, you know, very old infrastructure like the

one concrete.

So, this is what like the security audit should be done in many of the temples and insulations,

and that is what the government is suggesting now.

Our South Asia regional editor, Anbar Sanatirajan.

Many of us who live in big cities spend large portions of our days stuck in traffic or crammed

onto buses or trains, battling our way to work, the shops and back home again.

There's a project, though, that argues this is unnecessary and that urban centers can

be redesigned to prioritize shorter journeys.

The so-called 15-minute cities would help reduce car use and pollution and make our

lives more convenient.

But they have been a lightning rod for conspiracy theorists, who say they are an attempt to

imprison people in their neighborhoods.

Anna Holligan in the Netherlands has been investigating.

For advocates, the idea sounds pretty pragmatic, put everything we need from doctors and supermarkets

to jobs and schools within easy reach by foot or bicycle.

But type the term 15-minute city into TikTok and it generates hundreds of videos using

familiar hashtags Agenda 2030, World Economic Forum, to suggest the 15-minute goal is part

of a sinister global plot to limit our freedoms by enforcing climate lockdowns.

This one is full on conspiracy.

The power has always been with us, we just have to find our voice, say no to 15-minute

cities.

Raike Kaupers, a Dutch Disinformation Reporter, has been tracking the spread and evolution

of this conspiracy.

The 2030 conspiracy theory is about this global agenda where world leaders met up and are

supposed to have discussed how to use these environmental concerns to impose almost authoritarian

restrictions on the people.

An a 15-minute city is evidence of that plan being put into action.

Yeah, and it's a form of confirmation bias as well, 15-minute city prisons, that's what

they're calling them, 15-minute city prisons.

This misinterpretation has roots in the UK where two separate proposals in Oxford, one

for low traffic neighborhoods and another to create 15-minute cities, both partly designed

to cut carbon emissions, were blended and drizzled with disinformation.

Videos like this one have been getting hundreds of thousands of views but the content doesn't

always tally with reality.

And there's evidence here in the Netherlands where pretty much the entire country is already

made up of 15-minute cities.

Despite the people objecting to the 15-minute idea saying in order to get this we'll be

forced to sacrifice our freedom of movement, there's no sign of any boundaries or restrictions

here and it's not the intention either.

According to Professor Carlos Moreno, a city planner credited with creating the 15-minute

concept.

I caught up with him while he was in Asia, advising cities how to adopt the 15-minute

principles.

This is just a concept for improving the quality of life.

We need to change our urban life style, it's not a traffic plan.

Just need to interrogate this a bit because there are some concerns about social segregation.

We propose to mix people with the high revenue, with the low revenue, with the middle revenue.

There will be people listening to you thinking that this sounds like social engineering.

No, this is not a question of social engineering, this is a question of fighting against climate

change for having less energy dependency.

Public polarisation over the 15-minute city has highlighted climate disinformation as

a new front line for cities seeking innovative solutions to pressing environmental challenges

that won't disappear.

Anaheuligan in the Netherlands.

Now a quick word about this weekend's Happy Pod with Andrew Peach.

Yes, I've been talking to the people at the heart of the world's happiest new stories

this week.

So imagine you're out with a metal detector wondering what you can find.

What you find is a rock which contains $170,000 worth of gold.

We've got that story from Australia for you.

In China, if you fancy taking your dog for a walk in your lunch break but you don't

have time to go and collect your dog from home, there's now a taxi service that means

you can meet your dog in the park.

And scientists in Sweden have been looking into the secret messages contained in our

sweat and how they can make us happier.

Those stories plus listeners in the Philippines, Spain, Italy and New Zealand in the Happy Pod

in this podcast feed on Saturday.

Andy, thank you.

The Ian McEwan is often called one of Britain's greatest living writers, author of books like

Atonement or On Chesil Beach.

Now the Booker Prize winner is performing a rare reading of his work, accompanied by

the BBC Symphony Orchestra.

Nicola Stanbridge spoke to him about the concert being staged at the Barbican here in London

on Friday night and broadcast later on Radio 3.

Back from touring his latest book Lessons, Ian McEwan is glued once more to his writing

desk.

At 74 he's been assessing just over half a century's work for this BBC Symphony Orchestra

Concert, which will begin with the Polish composer Grazina Bacewicz.

Running music and words together is always a strange matter.

There's something very specific about language.

We speak often of its ambiguity, but I think its precision is even more extraordinary.

We can transfer thoughts from vibrating a little air around us.

We can transfer thoughts from one mind to another.

You can forget about telepathy.

About music there is something so rich in human meaning.

It's like to adapt that wonderful lines of Lip Larkin from his poem The Trees.

The trees are coming into leaf like something almost being said.

That is the condition of music.

The BBC Symphony Orchestra will play Grieg's Holberg Suite for your reading of Saturday.

Set as an anti-war demonstration takes place against the invasion of Iraq.

What are your thoughts 20 years on?

It was a monstrous foreign policy disaster and the chaos that's ensued in Iraq lives on.

It's had massive effects on the way governments behave since, especially the line that Obama

drew in the sand over Syria, but did not actually follow through.

And we continue to rule the day that the invasion ever took place.

For your reading of Enduring Love, the BBC Symphony Orchestra will play Arvo Pett,

Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten.

You mentioned you've been writing for nearly 50 years.

Would you rewrite any of your early work to accommodate modern sensibilities?

Would you be happy for instance for future rewrites of your work, as we've seen with

Roald Dahl and Ian Fleming?

No, I wouldn't. W. H. Jordan rewrote massively his work and it had to be rescued for us by

good scholars, except that you write from your times, the times might change, but it

has to be read through the prism of history.

So no, I don't approve of rewriting of Roald Dahl or anyone else.

I hope that my literary executors and literary agents will stay true to the word that I wrote.

I would peer down or up from wherever I end up, probably in total oblivion, being very

cross about it.

People started tampering with what I wrote.

You've said the world didn't seem so crowded, noisy and intrusive when you started writing.

I do regret the passing of what I regard as one of the great luxuries of civilisation

and that is solitude.

I think those snatched moments, the 20 minutes when you're waiting at the luggage carousel,

you used to have to do nothing but go into your thoughts.

Now we'll take out our phone, we've been deprived of a signal for a couple of hours in an airplane

and maybe we don't have quite as rich an inner life.

If you get in the habit of solitude, and which is an entirely different thing by the way from

loneliness, treat your mind as a garden that you can walk around in.

I think generally leads to more happiness.

Ian McEwen talking to Nicholas Stanbridge.

The concert will be broadcast on Radio 3 here in the UK on Sunday May 14th and you can

also listen to it on the BBC Sounds app.

That is it for now from the Global News Podcast, but we'll be back very soon.

This edition was mixed by Stephen Bailey and produced by Rebecca Wood, our editors Karen

Martin.

Ich bin Oliver Conway.

We'll see you in the next time.

By the Lazarus Group, a criminal hacking gang who is said to be working under the orders

of the North Korean state.

The group's goal?

To steal money, to help fund the country's growing ballistic missile and nuclear program.

But despite evidence suggesting otherwise, North Korea denies any involvement.

In Season 2 of The Lazarus Heist from the BBC World Service, we're following the latest

twists and turns in the incredible story of the Lazarus Group Hackers.

And piles and piles of stolen cash.

Over two billion dollars, we're at 2.1 billion dollars in stolen funds.

Such for the Lazarus Heist, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

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His lawyer says he is upset and angry, but not worried. Also: we hear from Bucha one year after its liberation from Russian occupation, and do plants talk back to us?