198 Land med Einar Tørnquist: Den demokratiske republikken Kongo del 2 med Mushaga Bakenga

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Ok so we have run the factory box, FAKTOR

The fact of the box, the fact of the place, let us just talk a little bit about what we call it.

Murshaga's Congo.

Murshaga, you've been to the Congo many times, and the first thing I know is how do you feel

at the airport when you land, what is it like, because you land in Goma?

Yes, we did it last time, for the first time. Usually I land in Rwanda, and then we fly over.

Exactly.

I take three hours.

Yes, and then you have an extra land, or you had been there during the flight.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

But how was it the first time you felt the body?

No, the last time, it was very exciting.

Long time ago, and I thought it was nice, because it was just to take the ferry over, right after that,

and Villa makes it the most comfortable to rent a family and wife.

Because there were many who were with the delegation during the flight?

Yes.

I was able to land there a few days ago.

It was a complete chaos.

Yes.

And how does it feel to be in the same airport as you?

Oh, no, it doesn't sound like that at all.

Yes.

So when we go out of the airport, we have to walk on a small path with a lot of dirt.

I'm starting on the airport now?

Because I'm on the way to the airport from the airport.

The airport, the dirt path between there?

Yes.

Ok, bye.

And then we drive here.

We have to say, it was hot, so it was good to go out.

Yes, but it was nice.

No, it was a bit of a day.

Ok.

And then we have to go to Antibach, so we have to wash our clothes with water and soap,

and then we have to wash our clothes and wash our clothes, and then we have to stand in the queue for it.

Yes, all of that.

And then we have to show the room with everything possible.

And I'm stupid enough to get down with Louis Vuitton.

Louis Vuitton bag, and have my Rolex and stuff like that.

Because you always go with a headset and a toilet paper bag, you know what I mean?

Yes, that's the goal.

I took the passport before I did it.

No, so we just have to, we know that we have all the papers in the order.

We have done everything right.

And then we leave the wing, and then we just have to stand on the side of the wing, like the other two.

And then the ladies came to me and said, yes, have your ladies been here before?

Yes.

So, no, it's the first time I've been here, but always in the order.

No, because you haven't filled out such an arch yet.

Just how have you filled out absolutely everything that is to be filled out?

No, you can't do that.

And then you don't get okay.

And then you get stressed, so we stand on the side of it, and like,

men come again and again.

And I'm getting a little stressed out, and I understand what she's trying to do.

But then she says, yes, if you pay now, then stop filling the arch.

And then you can't just go.

But I'm not going to pay now, I've always done everything right.

And then she's stressing me out, stressing me out.

What should we have?

And how does it happen?

What do I have on me?

Yes, of course.

And then she says, yes, 100 dollars.

100 dollars?

Yes, yes, yes.

At the same time, that's just a little drop in the sea.

Yes, that's true.

But...

A half-taxi 30-guide-a-month?

Yes.

But then I got so stressed, I was like, yes, fuck it.

Here, you have 100 dollars, and then we have to screw in the papyrus, which was just piss.

Yes, of course.

You have filled out everything you need.

Yes, of course.

And then we have to go out to where we're going to get the luggage.

And the cause is just to continue there.

Yes, for the luggage.

That will be driven out one by one.

The luggage will be collected behind the strip line that everyone has to win back.

And that's the cause.

Because there are a lot of people who want to have jobs and money.

And will help them take their luggage in now.

Yes, that's it.

I've lost it a few times.

The first time I went in, I got paid for it.

Yes.

So that was it.

And it turned out that they collected all the luggage.

And then you start to say, there's my luggage.

Yes.

Love and thanks.

Yes.

And then I pick up my luggage.

Yes.

And it's a complete chaos.

And you're dead.

And it's all-busy.

There are no people here.

And here we come from Japan, the best country in the world.

And we're going straight to Congo.

And I've lost it a few times.

Ladies and gentlemen, women start to cry.

And it's chaos.

I find the luggage there.

And one of the luggage there.

And then he says, you have to pay me.

Five dollars.

Five dollars.

And then I say, everyone else has to go and get their luggage.

No, I have to get my luggage.

But he says, no, you don't get it.

No.

So I pay him five dollars.

And then I have to go and get my luggage.

And then I have to get my luggage.

And then one of them comes and takes the luggage.

And I say, no, that's mine.

And he says, I have to help you.

And I say, I'm not going to help you.

No.

If you're going to help me.

Yes.

And then he takes two meters.

Yes.

And then he does that.

He's out with his hands and wants money.

Yes.

Ten dollars.

And then he's naked.

And then he was very sad.

And then of course they missed a suitcase.

And it was completely chaos.

So it was boring.

And it was a way to just get out of the airport as soon as possible.

But you learned some clothes.

Because it was actually when you were traveling.

You had the most clothes you had.

Yes.

And you have to have the last use of clothes.

You have to throw them.

Yes.

They have it on their trip.

So you throw them when you get there.

Yes.

More space in the suitcase on the way home.

Yes.

It's a tourist trick number again.

Yes.

I have learned something.

I have always learned that way.

Yes, you do.

Yes.

But then you learn the best, of course.

Yes.

Is it always like that?

Is it warm?

Or is it hot?

No, it's very humid.

Yes.

Yes.

So it's cold.

And a little bit warm.

If it's the first time you're here.

Because it's in Oslo now.

When we play here.

Which is right in front of the airport.

It's warm.

It's 25, 26 degrees.

Quite like that.

But it's quite a lot of heat in the rain.

Yes, a lot of heat.

So it's like when you go out.

You just feel the sweat coming.

Yes.

It's the most...

It's like it's overflowing.

It sticks to everything.

Yes.

But what's most impressive.

Is that the conglomerate goes with ulcers.

Do you hear that?

Yes.

Ul is the best.

That's what I've learned.

So for us who are not used to it.

It's not the best feeling.

But ul...

It goes with one team of ul.

Ul doesn't have the energy we need.

Mine is the best.

I gave him a gift for 10 years ago.

Morfar for the last year before he died.

He used it every day.

With a shirt.

No.

You say that?

But don't you get hot?

I think for them it's just great.

And then they freeze easily.

Is it chaos and heat everywhere?

Or is it because of the calm atmosphere.

No.

It's chaos.

Yes.

All the way.

And the problem is...

Yeah.

And then you just have to sit in the car.

It's chaos.

24-7.

Sound 24-7.

For a normal person it's a shock.

I've never thought about it.

I feel this holiday when I'm with someone.

Yes.

When you think...

You get the feeling that you're experiencing it for the first time.

Yes.

And see the reaction.

For me it's...

I've been there once.

A part of my culture is used to it.

But for them it was shocking.

And we had booked in a good hotel.

Yes.

We got a little bit of freedom from a little resort.

Yes.

That was the only place where it was a little bit of fun.

But once they left the port, it was chaos again.

Yes.

And it's people who are not used to being dragged all the way.

In a way that...

The skin was there.

With western tourists who are actually not...

Are not allowed to be dragged to Africa.

Who are placed there.

Yes.

Because it's a little bit of time.

Yes.

You have to get up.

It's interesting.

It's a reason that you're driving and...

Going up on the non-announced list, so to speak.

I'm not on the all-time list.

I'm on the list of regions that are...

The suburbs.

And it's a pretty long list.

Yes.

But there are some that fit.

Kinshasa, for example, is great if we remember them.

Yes.

But I think...

What's the name of the region where you live?

No, it's Kyve and Serkive.

Yes.

Both of them are the suburbs of Udde.

Yes.

While we were there.

No, no.

There was a 100 km run.

What did you say?

Full war.

There was a lot of men's fighting.

So it wasn't any fun.

And...

That I wasn't home.

And I was on my way.

While we were in Congo.

Yes.

Just before the war.

About what happened yesterday.

So...

I think it was an exciting trip for them.

Do you have...

Do you have a beer?

Or...

No, we have to buy a small box.

A small one.

That we go with.

You never have to get that.

At least if you're on holiday.

Then you don't get that annoying holiday.

No, you don't get that.

How usual do you say that the security situation is there?

If you're one of our guests.

Because that's what they do.

After you've heard about the episodes.

Where do you get the feedback from the people who travel around?

Can you move around something like that?

Or are you the type of soldier who's been doing it?

There's a lot of soldiers, a lot of weapons.

Yes.

That's it.

At least in the vocabulary and the region there.

There's a lot of people with weapons and soldiers.

And a lot of singers.

They don't speak well.

No, not at all.

So you can be afraid.

Yes.

At least you understand that it's just like that.

Yes, that's what you do.

If you don't have anything to say.

No.

Then we'd like to have a local one.

Because if you're on the wrong place or the wrong place.

Then you'll be guaranteed to try Rana or Etleranya.

Yes, and it's a bit like...

You have to take a little bit of us, actually.

Yes, you have to.

Yes.

If you wanted to be a tourist while you were here.

Yes.

I took my mom and went to see some different places.

Like we call it the food market.

Yes.

But then there was someone where you really had to be careful.

In the camp.

You have to have everything in the car.

And then you have to be careful and take care of everything you have.

Yes.

So I recommend taking the tour to them.

Maybe a little...

Kinshasa is a little better than going to Sörekiv.

And if you're going there, you have to have a local one.

Yes.

Who knows where and when you can go around.

Of course you're saying it because you're almost against it.

Or you're thinking that Kinshasa has to be completely insane.

A lot of nonsense and dangerous.

And scum african.

A lot of mega shit.

But at least it's from the outside.

That it's actually...

Yes, it's a lot more ordinary.

Because the president has used his money.

Yes, of course.

Because in Bokao, there is still a lot of crap on the road.

There is no infrastructure.

And there are many who fled from Lansby to Inge.

Who have to be hunted out of a war that is going on.

So they have to deal with their enemies on the road.

Yes, and their problems.

And then there is the complete chaos.

And everyone tries to get up in front of my life.

No, it's chaos.

But it's also nice in the chaos.

I thought about it here in the back.

There have been many times when I've never seen a car accident.

And we have nothing that's called driving in the field.

I think it's probably because there are some car accidents.

Yes, yes.

Then there are accidents when you're not alone.

But when you're in Norway, you drive.

When you're not on the right side of the road,

I think the chaos is still in the system.

If we look at the traffic.

Because you experience it relatively quickly.

It's not the worst country.

It's a little bit like when you can get a driver's license.

Is there any rule on that?

No, 13 is the youngest driver I've ever had.

I think you've had a personal one.

Yes, as a family, a shame to get caught in the round.

Yes, exactly.

13 years old.

When we were 13 years old, we had a little boy who came to help us.

I was 13, 14 years old and driving.

He came to help us with the suit and put them in the car.

I thought that he was just like that.

So he sat down in the front seat and started driving.

We see each other on the moon.

What's going on here?

No, it's the driver himself.

He's been driving for nine months now.

Yes, yes, yes.

He sat so wet and slept on the right side of the road.

So it's been 13, 14 years.

I drive a car when I was 13, 14 years old.

Yes, because I was stuck in the back seat.

I couldn't see them.

Maybe the roads are a little better, a little less traffic.

Yes, I think so.

1,8% of the roads were asphalted.

I found a statistic on there.

Do you think that has anything to do with the road security?

It has a good part to say.

And I don't think so.

It doesn't matter how bad it is with the road.

No.

There is so much hole after war and everything is possible and not reparations.

Yes.

Everywhere.

So suddenly there was this heavy, heavy hole that had killed all the cars in Norway.

Yes.

And then you have to drive on the outside.

But then a car was sent against you.

Or 10 cars were sent against you.

And then you just have to maneuver it again.

Because it's not like Tesla i.

It's the most expensive in Norway.

No, it's not the most popular car in Norway.

It's the most expensive.

Yes.

And then if you have a lot of money in your pocket.

Yes, yes, yes.

Family Congo.

That's probably the worst I can think of.

Yes.

My uncle has a car again.

He used to drive when I was driving around.

So it's...

But you have to drive high cars.

It can't be reliable.

But you are guaranteed a back massage.

Yes, you are.

Yes, you are.

Yes, but it's completely necessary.

The back is knackered in place before you sit and hop on it down there.

But I can imagine that it can be...

If you, for example, drive in front of you.

That it can be a bit of a trouble with your brother-in-law.

I think so too.

But then there might be some cool stuff in the back.

So you have to take care of it.

Yes, to dampen it a bit.

Well, I don't just throw food in the kitchen.

It's just one country in the world where a bigger part of the population

has a bad traffic jam than in Congo.

And it's even better.

Yes.

There are 100,000 living people who die most of the time in Congo.

So you can take part of it almost at the time of the 14th century.

Oh, oh, oh.

But I've got the feeling that it's people who jump in front of cars.

Oh yes.

In front of nice cars.

In front of cars.

To be...

Yes.

It's not something to be ashamed of.

But now, maybe, they give me money.

So I'll let it go.

Yes.

Yes, straight up, yes.

Yes.

It's a bit of a risk to sport.

Maybe not something we recommend to the tourists.

No, absolutely not.

And if you're going down there, don't drive.

Get yourself a driver.

That is, there is nothing that is longer than my nature

than trying to drive myself.

On my first trip to Congo.

What do you eat in Congo?

I've got a question.

Do you listen to the food in the African food category

with a lot of herbs and that taste a lot?

Or was the category of herbs?

It's definitely a lot of herbs.

Definitely a lot of herbs.

And a lot, a lot of chili.

Yes.

Or chili, as we call it.

Is it chili?

Yes, chili, chili.

It looks like a lot.

It's the strongest.

I just have to eat a lot of other things that I have to eat

and make such a nice, almost tomato

that you take a little bit to the side of it.

Yes.

And get a little bit up.

Yes.

I have a story about that.

I was once about to impress my best father.

I was sitting next to him during one of my family days.

And we were sleeping around the Philippine school.

And he just took a class with me.

A classmate.

And just class on my birthday.

Yes, yes, yes.

So I thought, okay.

And he just looked at me and classed me on the back.

And just, you and man, you and mom.

I was just, yes, yes.

I've never heard of Lidme through a meal like that.

And then I was so sweaty.

It hurt and I didn't feel anything.

I felt that it was just dirty in my throat and my tongue.

So that was completely terrible.

And the toilet was hot.

Yes, it was hot.

But they heal on your throat?

Yes.

But there are a lot of crickets and a lot of meat,

grilled meat.

Yes.

I've been to Slakte gait.

What is the method then?

No, it's that you start with a throat,

hold it fast and then...

No, no, no.

The machete and then...

And with a little good speed on it?

Yes.

Yes.

And then you hit it for a moment.

And then there are more of all your pills and everything possible.

And then you go straight up on the grill.

So you get fresh.

Is it related to halal slaking, right?

Yes, but I don't know.

It's a no-bun.

We drink right before we eat.

Yes.

We don't drink when we're going to hit it.

We just hit it right before we hit it.

Short race meal.

Short race meal.

Yes.

And then fofo.

Fofo is fantastic.

Pilepile and fofo?

Yes.

Fofo.

Do you remember your son when you were two years old?

Yes.

But what is fofo for?

It's semulgrin and vanilla.

Yes, it's vanilla.

There are many African countries that have fofo for different types of fofo.

But we don't have semulgrin fofo.

Is it semulgrin?

Yes.

Or for your Norway, so semulgrin if you're going to make it here.

Yes, because it has semuliputting and semulgrin,

which is the best I know.

No.

It's going to be from Norway.

It would be great if there were a lot of that in Congo.

Yes, but if you take the tour down, you'll get semulgrin.

Yes, they're doing it.

Yes.

But it's cheap and cheap, so you can call it a congolese meal.

Yes, definitely.

Is it a basic thing?

Yes, it's basic things, but with a lot of oil.

Yes.

So it's also thick and everything is possible.

So it's a little bit of oil, so you have some basic things to say.

It's not something that people want to take care of.

No, it's cool.

In Congo, like in many other Swedish countries,

it's a bit of a shame that you have some extra meat on your body.

Chunk in the trunk.

Yes, then you have a good life.

Next up.

And I have that too.

Yes.

But on top of that, I've heard that in Congo,

it's mayonnaise on everything.

It's mayonnaise on absolutely everything.

If you ask my father and the whole gang, yes.

It's fascinating.

Yes, it is.

Yes, we can have a Norwegian meal in between sandwiches,

pulse with bread.

Yes.

He eats mayonnaise.

Yes, he eats and he eats mango with mayonnaise.

Oh, that's cool.

Yes, he has mayonnaise on everything.

Mango with mayonnaise.

Yes, and now he hasn't been able to rest for a while.

Yes, that's cool.

Yes.

And it happens when I'm visiting and lying down,

that he can stand up in the middle of the night and walk in the car,

and enjoy himself.

A little.

A little on your fingers, no?

Yes.

But when he has to rest,

it's like a pose that is very thin,

so he can do a thin line.

Yes.

It's fascinating in the use of mayonnaise.

It's fries and mayonnaise are also very popular.

It's very French.

Yes.

It's very good.

It's good.

It's going to be nice.

But it's not good when you're going to do it six times a day

and you're going to have a snack with him inside the mayonnaise.

Yes, it's like that kimchi over there in Korea,

that's going to be kimchi and everything.

I don't want to just have that sour corn.

No.

We have two of them.

It's brown.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

The clock,

you have it on your hand now,

and it works,

I'm sorry,

it works,

you've been there for nine minutes.

And it works down there.

No, the clock,

for us,

you have it on your hand now,

but it's more like the clock,

there's no one there.

The inside, the biological clock.

Yes, the biological clock.

It's the one we use,

and it's not,

and you've heard of Hakuna Matata.

Again?

Yes, it's actually our saying,

no worries.

Is that your saying?

Yes.

It's really funny.

Yes, it is.

You can't see it.

No, there have been many more,

because I had confirmation,

and I would have just tested it,

and sent out two different innovations

to my Norwegian,

and also to my English-African.

Okay.

And I wrote the clock at half past three,

to my African,

half past four,

to my Norwegian.

Half past three,

so all the Norwegian were in place.

Circa four.

And then came,

came there,

my slowest and most secure,

my African.

Even with one hour's advance.

Yes.

So I got three quarters back.

And my uncle,

who had the clock,

and came,

then two hours later,

to Vielsen.

His own or yours?

Yes, his own.

Yes, his own, yes.

He's going to marry you.

Okay.

What did he do?

Well, I don't know.

People take it easy.

There were other guests who came,

30 minutes before.

But it didn't matter,

because Kona came half past three.

So it's a bit like that.

Kona came at the end?

Yes.

So it's a bit,

it's going, we have it.

I don't want to call it,

I don't respect what Andres says,

but we just have a lot of respect for our own time.

Next up.

Yes, I understand.

Yes.

So it's about not being stressed,

and being happy,

and happy,

and taking things with peace.

It's very good.

So it's African time.

It's real.

It's real.

And that's what I try to say to the ladies,

that I can't do anything about it.

It's in my blood.

It's a part of something that I'm just born with.

Yes.

And that's the thing,

I'm getting completely angry.

Yes.

But I have to say,

I'm very scared of the Norwegian clock.

Yes, I think so.

It's also going to be a bit like that in a country like Norway,

where somehow in some of your years,

you just have to take a few hours,

with the daylight.

It's important to get started,

clock seven and eight,

before you get the record.

So clock three is two days away.

Yes.

And then it gets a bit more boring.

Yes, it does.

Okay.

Are there any restrictions on people,

like all the competition is like that,

or is it just so to say,

that it's...

All of them are loud.

Let's get started.

Yes.

All of them.

I'm very happy to dance.

Yes.

You can dance at the African birthday party,

everything is possible.

Yes.

And that's life.

And you think that

it's a good drink here,

or people have drunk a lot.

Yes.

In the Norwegian city.

Yes, of course.

It's just that we love parties,

fun and entertainment.

It's all possible to dance.

We don't need that alcohol,

to get to that.

Do you think it's some introvert,

who just has to be with us,

who is just...

Yes, yes.

I just have to keep up with it.

I think it's an introvert to dance.

No, it's an introvert to dance.

Yes.

But once the music comes on.

Yes.

Then it's up on the dance floor.

It's just a part of the whole thing.

It's family dinner.

There's rapes everywhere.

So we're a...

high-pitched nation,

I would say,

and happy in life.

And really try to

see it all fine.

I think it's really

a real stretch,

all over.

Yes.

It's crazy.

It's positivism

and

out of the way

positive understanding.

Yes, yes.

And then it's

over 80% of people.

There's the so-called Bantu people.

It's the same thing

in some rooms with

a lot of people.

The big Bantu people

in Hong Kong,

that's Luba.

And then there's

a lot of Bantu as well.

Now you just have to write down

what it sounds like in Hong Kong.

But the biggest

that I can't go past,

it has a little bit of a

problematic name,

Mongo.

And there are 32 million Mongo

in Hong Kong.

They're planning around

and how to talk about something like that.

That's very strange.

You have to

really carefully

be careful.

Why don't you do that?

Because if you go

to Wikipedia,

search for Mongo people

that people don't know about.

So it's like a picture

of a map.

And then there's

a red circle

in the middle of Africa

that's a pile.

It's just Mongo people.

And it looks like

the worst thing in the world.

Yes, it does.

That's for sure.

But the thing is that

in Swahili,

it means Mongo God.

Do you do that?

Yes.

That it's like

they got the people

or are they Mongo people?

Yes, they are.

They're called Mongo.

Okay, is it

a culture

that you,

in Norway,

of course,

are used to it,

as much as possible,

and you don't talk about it

with less people,

you have to have

those diagnoses

that make you do it.

But I think

it's possible.

People just come

away from small operators

and

buy and go.

Yes, it's very

there.

And there's a lot of respect.

So if someone

is older than you,

you're going to go away

and heal.

And you're going to heal?

Yes.

You're going to go away.

At least if

it's a local community

or one country,

you're going to go away

and show respect.

If you don't do it,

people will get it with you.

And then

call your parents.

Call your parents?

Yes,

your son

doesn't have any

sense of respect.

And then

you get to know

your parents.

So

no,

it's very

it's not enough

space on the bus

that you

can't sit alone.

No, no, no.

Because

they fill you up

to the edge.

Yes.

We might not

feel like

it's a bit of a crowd.

No.

And it's like

you people

and it's

it's

very fascinating.

But it's

talked about

and it's

still if it's

a conglomerate

in Rome.

Yes.

So it's cool.

Yes.

And

free of charge, of course.

Yes.

All is positive

to be

Yes, it's free of charge.

Is it true that

you can easily

be invited

by people

who don't know

such things?

No,

it's all invited.

It's

open door

and it's like...

It's a bit like

for us

who are so

inattentive

on vacation

but just be there

at the same time.

Yes,

it's like that.

And it's

so nice

that

when we had

Brullepuris

we used

the best

military

security team

to block

people

from getting in

the party.

The local pro-sac.

Yes,

because

it's so nice

that

everyone is

invited

to participate

in the party.

Yes.

So

what we did

was just

gather the food

and then

we went out

to those

who were standing

outside

to hope

to get

some food.

Yes,

it was a bit

better,

but

it's

open door

and everyone

is welcome

to see

them.

Yes,

I have

some knowledge

about Congolese.

So I think

that

I don't know

if it's

more

Kinshasa,

but it's

very

fashion-oriented

culture

that's

called

Lassap.

If you're

a sapper

then

you're

a Congolese

dandy

who

is the one

who knows

it

because

you know

where

it is.

I know

where it is.

So

the brain is up over

there is

a big

a little

joker

brain

a stick

so if you're

very nice

you can go

out in that

stick

with

a

mouse

on top

and you

have

seven colors

of hat

but

the

most

is

that

they

And the boss is marking up a hanging out form, but it's not fake.

And upart.

So I'm very happy with that, but I love it.

I think it's very fast.

Yes, because it's the first time it's been incredibly cool.

It's just amazing pictures of it.

It's a culture that stood out from someone around 100 years ago.

And then it was revitalized by an artist called Papa Wemba.

I don't know if you know him.

But if you watch the music video,

All the Stars by Kendrick Lamar was the best.

And then from 2018, it's an introduction from Lassap culture in Congo.

It's very cool.

Yes, I'm happy. I could never have gone there.

But I'm happy.

Yes, you just have to go to the Louis Vuitton.

Yes, of course.

You have to play football.

Yes, of course.

Out of life.

And then you have to go out of life in Congo.

No.

I'm tired.

No, it's not that I'm tired.

I don't think I'll ever get the same promise as you.

But I think it's great.

You think it's great?

Yes.

I have to experience enough of the out-of-life version of being on these festivals.

Rullupan and Bursdagan.

It's just coming from the family, from a long time ago.

It's a big party for that.

It's great.

It's to be my out-of-life.

And then it's for me as a white person.

And then it's a troubled history.

If you had come to the artist,

How do you think it would have been if I had been a bit frustrated?

Or is it a bit sceptical?

No, you would have guaranteed to be invited.

I would have.

If you smile, laugh, and take the culture,

I think it's great to sweat like you do.

I think that's what I want to do.

I've talked to a lot of people who have done this.

And that's fine.

But for me, it's also something that people know who I am.

People know where the family is from.

And it's not everyone who wants my family to be good.

So it's very dangerous for you to experience kidnapping or anything.

And then you'll need things to end up free.

So for my part, the cause is very high up to the best for me here.

Yes, it really is.

You will go further into that with family history afterwards.

But just into that with the rich nature in Congo.

Because it's like it has to be.

Because Congo is one of the world's biggest,

it's the most elegant bonobos,

and not least, okapi.

Have you ever seen okapi?

No, what is okapi?

Okapi is only available in Congo.

It's a kind of blending of zebra legs,

it looks like a giraffe,

but it's a bit smaller.

It's the only thing that shows a picture here of an okapi.

You have to know that as a Congolese.

The red world here.

Yes, that's where I've seen it.

You've seen it like that?

Yes, I've seen pictures of my siblings who have seen it.

Because it's your work.

It's completely remarkable.

From the start of the 19th century,

it was a part of the cryptozoology,

which is like the Skyrim Snowman,

Bigfoot,

something you've just heard about,

Rocknest Monster.

But it didn't happen.

No, but I don't think it happened at all.

And then suddenly this is it.

Hell, it's in the Congo.

But it's incredibly cool.

It's a part of Stoltet,

a national Stoltet.

It's one thing,

and there's a lot of fine nature in the Kyber region.

Have you been up to check it out?

Yes, it's incredibly fine.

It's so fruity,

as fine as paint,

with the view of Irvane and Kyber Sea.

That's hard.

Yes, it's not huge.

It's very, very fine and fruity,

something that hasn't been touched yet.

Yes, something that has been touched by...

The cry.

And then you have the Vulcans,

you have something called Nira-Gongo,

and something called Nyamur-Raggira.

So you go to a trekking tour on Nira-Gongo,

and at night,

there's more view of what is the biggest

floating lava lake in the world,

which is super slippery,

which you can't find on the earth,

but you just do it.

And then the pictures.

And it's quite...

The country is very rich in that type of population,

if you have an address.

And then the gorilla tourism,

have you been to gorilla countries?

Yes, in December,

your family died,

and it was a very good scene from such a close-up.

How close did you get?

You could go two meters around.

Yes.

And then...

Are you afraid?

Of course,

because suddenly you get a look,

like a gorilla look.

But now you get a look.

Yes.

Because it looked so simple,

except when it just took the roof,

and it was so heavy,

and just pulled it with it.

Yes.

So they are so strong.

Guys can crack things?

Yes.

So I'm afraid of bugs.

So it's not for me, then.

No.

It was like,

hey, then I'll get there.

But there are probably many who think

that it's like enjoying nature,

or something like that,

but it is actually...

It's just where they are,

in the gorilla countries,

and they keep it

because it's an index to get people up there.

So they keep it in life.

So it's not a free-range like that.

No, it's absolutely not.

And then they get to live

in peace and harmony as they want.

As long as people behave on holiday.

Yes.

And then you have...

the smell under the back.

That's something you have to take care of.

Because the crane drift,

the mineral exploration in Sweden,

is attractive, of course.

And the combined value

of all the minerals that are in the back there,

is at 275 billion kronor.

275 billion kronor,

which is 15-20 times as much as all of them.

Why haven't you done this?

Have you just made it so filthy rich?

No, it's because of the waste.

It's quite a lot.

It's what many uncles talked about.

And the war that's going on

is because it's a waste of resources

that go through, through, through.

And then they get out of it and take it to themselves.

And then the president pays the crown and loan.

Corruption at a very high level.

Which makes the Congo

the most rich country in the world.

But it's also both parts of the country.

So it's incredible.

And that's what I hope will be a change in the future.

I think people have started to wake up a little more,

and more people are dying to say from it.

But it's almost like you're not pulling anymore.

Because there are probably some Belgian societies

that are...

Yeah, in Norway.

Yeah, in Norway, exactly.

So everything is in the report that my uncle has been working on.

And he's working in New York.

Then you have Dr. Mukwegve?

Yes.

Dr. Dennis Mukwegve.

So hopefully we will wake up the world

and see the results of what we have

on the iPhone and run it through Tesla and so on.

Because it's minerals that are used in all new technologies.

Yes, a lot of it comes from Congo.

From Bakken.

And it's very quiet.

It's as if the Congo would have taken all the oil money.

Yes, exactly the same.

So it's a shame that the Voltais children and women

are hunting out of their homes.

And then just because we have to

be able to sweep higher and higher.

It's quite easy.

It's something powerful that one can say.

Maybe you have something to say about it.

It's a work that my uncle is working on.

He was known through the Nobel Prize in 2018.

Which is the highest achievement a person can get.

What is he working on?

He's quite a gynecologist for the future.

One of the most famous on that field.

And he started as a regular camp.

And then he started to come in women.

How did he see this position?

Women with war scenes that have been released

because of excessive violence.

Yes, a terrible illness.

So he started to sweep them together.

And then it just came more and more and more.

And then he realized that this is a terrible problem.

And at the same time as he worked with

and operated 10-15 times per patient

to make a center for them to get them back again.

To make them happy again.

Because here women have been supported

by their families to have become Voltais.

What I can tell you about the weapons

is that you kill them.

So he gets them up again.

It can take 5 years, someone who has been there for 15 years.

But he gives them education

and gives them faith in themselves and strength.

Before he tries to send them out again in the world.

And he has done that in the future.

In many years.

He is an impressive man who can name

absolutely all women and children at the hospital.

And also the children we met recently.

And also the young ones.

The result is that they are disabled.

Young people don't want to have them.

No, they will not have them.

So it will be a wonderful thing that has happened.

So they have to be taken care of,

sent to a school and get a life.

So at the same time as he has always done that

he has worked on the politics

and found out what is the reason for all this.

Who is behind it.

Where the money goes.

He has received a lot of applause for that.

But he has done a similar job

almost in the studio, to find out about the problems.

What is the root of all the problems.

But it is the one that is missing.

Yes, because of the rammed vest.

So it is a shame.

But he is really standing on a shelf

out of the world.

Has he lived his whole life in Congo?

Or has he been ...

Yes, I have been studying here for a long time.

Because most of the time

I have lived in Congo and after a retreat

I came to Belgium.

I saw myself playing in the game

and scored two goals.

Did you play in Belgium?

Yes.

Yes, it is very important.

No, so it was very nice.

But then it was so close to him

moving permanently to Belgium.

After that I tried there.

But he chose to move home again.

And live with the ladies on the bike

and build a house inside the bike.

So it is a big man.

It is not so clean.

It is a bit noble.

Which is ...

The word probably comes from the noble.

Yes, what do you do?

Okay.

And you have ...

If we are in a kind of healthy building here

and you do not have to ...

Just make sure that we scream a little here.

Because you also have a project

in Congo.

What is it now?

I have started with school.

So I started in college when I was a child.

First school, now I'm going to graduate.

But then I took a country bike.

Where I see that here they have absolutely nothing.

In that area?

Yes.

And here was the biggest fatidom.

And the way out here from the EU.

I would like to give an explanation.

I can not describe the fatidom.

How is that?

How is ...

How do people live?

Do they have water?

Do they have ...

It is so little that you just believe in each other.

Yes.

So it is that they have built homes.

It is the children.

It can be here and it can be in the mother who is alone.

Because the father had died of fatidom.

With four children.

Yes.

And you also have to have the eldest child at 12 years old.

Take care of all the younger ones.

And then you have to deal with food.

Deal with ...

Light.

Like those who just build themselves.

Take some plants, take some trees and set up.

You have to go 4-5 hours to get to the place

where you can get things you need every day.

Clothes.

You have to make clothes yourself.

You have to go around and dig if you can.

If you hear that it comes with money or something.

You have to buy it yourself.

It is ...

Maximum fatidom.

Yes, it is absolutely fatidom.

And in this area it was ...

Yes, it was ugly.

And it had really been driven by the war.

So then ...

For example, to start there.

Yes.

When I went to build a school and thought that we would take in the first and foremost

those who needed the most.

And then we took them with parents.

That's right.

And then we got them ...

Yes.

And it cost a little to go to school in Congo.

And then we got them free.

I thought it would be 300, but it was 1300.

1300.

The first school today.

It's also a big country here.

Yes.

And then I had to start a well-deserved organization.

Because they had to help people.

Yes.

And then I started working with Sweden.

What's your name?

Jabes Verden.

Jabes Mesett.

Jabes Verden.

Okay, Jabes.

Bibelsk.

Okay.

No, so then ...

We have through help from people and our own Loma built out of the school.

And we have now got over 100 students to the university on the tip.

And just to help one student, you already stopped getting one.

In that kind of street.

There.

Exactly.

Most likely.

Because then that person had to start a well-deserved organization again.

Yes.

And in addition, we have organized a meeting before we have bought up money.

We have mothers who make more with fish.

And then they sell everything.

Yes.

And get in the car.

So that they ...

We try to get the organization to drive themselves again.

Exactly.

And that those who get out have come back and build there and use the equipment.

I hope they don't just stick to each other.

Yes.

So no, we have come very far, very far and very proud of it.

Over there and every time I am there.

At the same time, more people come and share some school bags.

Just school bags.

School bags.

Yes.

And then it is up to them to get a play session.

That is so great.

Yes, of course.

And every time we open up some food at the school.

Because now I have to go 12 hours without food.

Because they go 3 hours to school.

And now we are going to start with school buses to hang out.

I see that.

Yes.

So I want them to get as good as possible.

Yes, that's good.

So now we are going to get out of it a little bit.

Fantastic.

But I think it has been a bit of a shame for people to get out of it.

Not just playing football with Louis Vuitton and Gensi.

Helus.

Helus.

That's good.

That's good.

Yes, yes.

Ok.

Yes, because the country is actually, I don't doubt it.

It is 10% of the population that has electricity.

Which does say a lot when Kinshasa has almost 20% of the population.

So then they can think about how much it lies in the infrastructure.

1.8% of the population, for example.

Water.

Almost no one has put water in it.

No, no, no.

You can open it, don't drink it.

No.

You can use it as much as you can.

You can use it as much as you can.

You can use it as much as you can.

You can use it as much as you can.

It has opened up a country with very big problems.

But also a completely open resource overflow.

I don't think it works.

It has to be fixed.

Yes.

And it's nice that you contribute a little, I think.

And then things happen in the Congo now.

I'm pretty sure about that.

The Congo is going to be the big country, once in a while.

I feel very safe about that.

Do you?

Yes.

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Ladies, I have a parting.

One thing that you have already been on is that we are looking forward to the best

to bring more time than the airport in Goma.

That is very nice.

But let's talk about another thing that I think is very important to get ahead of.

That is a tax statistic.

There are many statistics that have been very negative in the Congo,

but there is one where the competition is the best class.

Do you know which statistic to talk about?

Yes, that is our third leg.

That is it?

After all, boys and girls, happy birthday to you.

This is what you hear about the Congo,

so I went into the world population review,

which is a heavy demographic that tries to collect a lot of data

and pull out interesting things like that.

And there it says that Sudan has some millimeters on it, as I said.

No, that must be a mistake.

Yes, but there is a lot of other places.

And what is a little more interesting,

that you have to smile a little,

because the stereotype is not that people with African ethnicity

have been most affected by our heritage.

And they are most afraid,

so I think you have a little more to stress about.

But there is a part of research that has been done that says that

there is not that much to do.

In 2014, a big research was done in the United States

with 1,600 white, black, Hawaiian, Asian and U.S. people

who showed that the variation is more than just two centimeters,

which crashes into these numbers from the country,

because it is always from 18 to 9 centimeters in size.

So the theory here is actually that the growing environment,

or where it is used for different micro-organisms,

environmental gifts, right or wrong learning and things like that,

where it is possible that they use it for their pregnancy,

and the conversion is actually a little negative for adults,

if the conversion is new to them.

That has a much greater effect.

So let's say that if you have, like you,

you have been born in Norway, right?

Yes, I have been born in Norway.

Sorry, bro.

So you are going to be in the same place as me, right?

I'm not kidding.

So I can safely say that the statistics,

exactly what we are reading here,

and exactly what I'm calling myself here in Norway,

is actually that I was born in Sudan.

So don't think about that.

If we are talking about the penis length,

of course we are talking a little bit about that.

The observation here is that the connection

between the person's height and the penis length

is actually also a little bit of a mess.

So I'm very sad that I've gone over 90.

I've been thinking that, yes, you know, you know.

You're right.

There's also a shoe service.

I agree with that, Jalle.

Six years ago I had a girlfriend,

but that it doesn't sound good to me.

I think it doesn't sound good to the other person.

So in the end, we actually don't have the manual

for that, do you think?

No.

I have a lot of manuals with me,

and that's just me.

How many hands do you need to have a manual for that?

No, and fill it up, I think.

It's going to be a little inaccurate,

because it's based on your own report,

and I think we'll never know if a guy

will report that way.

Yes.

Shall we go straight to the top of the list

of games I want to play?

Yes!

Let's do that.

Let's go!

Then we'll play with Joss, Mershaga,

where I say things that are mild and unexpected,

and hopefully you'll react with Joss.

If not, then that's fine as well.

You're free to react as you like.

Let's try to get what you're saying.

Kinshasa is the world's largest French-speaking...

Yes.

Yes.

Almost.

It's not completely there, but it's getting closer.

Kongo is the world's largest French-speaking

French-speaking French-speaking French-speaking French.

Yes.

Brazzaville in the Republic of Kongo,

and Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Kongo

is the world's two closest main cities,

if you look at the answer.

Yes.

Yes.

And at the same time, it's not a bridge over Elba,

because it's just a few kilometers away from Elba,

which is called Kongo.

But it has something to do with the history,

and things like that.

They don't feel safe,

that the bridge has come to lead...

just good things.

That's a lie.

No.

It's pretty long.

You have to build a long bridge.

Yes, yes.

But in fact, the fairies that go over there

are so busy,

like you said earlier,

that when people have been on holiday in Brazzaville,

in the Republic of Kongo,

and are going to Kinshasa,

think of that here,

it's more common to fly to Rwanda,

and then fly there from Kinshasa,

even though you can see over Elba.

Yes, it says that all the time.

It says absolutely all the time.

Okay, it's almost just about that.

Yes, it was just.

This is a nice just,

which I have worked with a lot to formulate.

To get from Kongo to Kongo,

you can just cross Kongo,

but not the whole Kongo,

because you're in Dongo,

and are going to Tongo,

and then you're north of Kongo in Kongo,

and you can't cross Kongo from Kongo

and into Kongo.

Yes, yes, yes.

That's good.

Yes, yes.

I feel like I've been working so hard

to find a small village

that's called Dongo and Tongo, and so on.

Yes, but that's the same.

Yes, yes, yes.

In 1974,

the dictator Mobutu arranged

the Rumble in the Jungle,

where he took $5 million,

because Muhammad Ali and George Foreman

were going to box in Kinshasa.

You knew it very well.

I knew it very well.

Brue and Circus,

classic dictator strategy then.

Yes, that was it.

Did it work?

Was it popular?

Kongo was on the map,

that's how it was.

It was Seire,

because I was actually on the map,

because he didn't want me to call him Kongo.

The Iranians in the atomic bomb

that was shot at Japan in 1945

were killed in the Katanga region.

Yes.

Wow, congratulations.

Thank you.

That was a great contribution to the trip.

It's not good for the Japanese,

if they're alive.

No.

You've played in Belgium and Japan,

you're a really trouble maker.

Yes.

Kongo has had eight different flags

since you won the game in 1960.

That's right.

It's very good.

Wow.

It went a bit too far in the beginning.

It sounds like Kongo Seire had that.

Kongo is the most people in the world,

after Bangladesh,

who has never won an Olympic medal.

Yes, it was almost a shocking right.

100 million people.

Not again.

Not such a shooting at the bronze once.

How would it have been?

It must be running,

but I don't know yet.

Okay, the last round.

It was against the president,

Palas Palastorma.

It was already so hard

that even the vankran,

the water fountain,

was everywhere.

The whole of Hagenhans

was full of incontinence.

His flag was higher.

Yes.

You had to answer correctly.

Yes, yes, yes.

You had to fly to Morocco.

Yes.

It was a flag park.

It's a bit sad,

in a way.

But I don't have that.

Yes.

It was very nice.

With a good ending.

Yes, that's right.

Can we just play again?

A little question?

Yes.

Exciting.

Let's take it.

Welcome to a little question.

Thank you.

Are you a little more stable

than what I'm doing here?

Or is it just over and down?

That's from Nonya.

Yes, that's right.

But from me,

I talk to kids every day.

So that's how it is.

You're a go-ing.

Yes, I try.

Theodor Magnusen,

he's on a fishing trip

all over the country

with a short fishing line.

We do that.

It's everywhere.

Yes.

There are fish in it.

We do that.

And Tilapia,

which is most popular.

Tilapia is the one

that we bought here, right?

Yes.

It's like a little white meat

and...

Tilapia?

Yes.

I'm not as good here as my mother.

No, I'm not that good.

I'm sure it's...

It must have been tough.

Yes, it must have been tough

with Billy Billy.

Yes.

I was a little too busy.

Yes, then you were.

And then Magnus on top of him.

Martin Bjärtnäs,

is it annoying

that there are two countries

that are called Congo?

And then he writes

that it's nice if you continue

to go to the market?

Yes.

No, it's a little annoying.

But at the same time,

it feels like

there are so many

that care about Lish Congo.

No.

But I think

there is something

that she has ordered

from the wrong Congo.

Yes, it's guaranteed.

Yes.

There are so many...

Yes, not smart things.

Yes.

It's a nice thing.

But I feel pretty clear

that it's one Congo that's yellow.

It's unrivaled.

It's so big here.

Yes.

And you're thinking about

the other eight-hour rickshaw

you're going there.

Nicolas Evansen-Thanberg.

He's wondering which area

in the Congo

is your current team.

Seven...

Oh, oh, oh.

The current team...

The current team,

I have to say,

the current team is the best,

but I don't know.

When I lived in Oslo

for a month,

I was very good at driving.

I like the current team.

I have to say that.

Yes, I know.

I'm going to the current team.

I'm going to say

Kunchas,

just to...

Just to read a little bit.

Mats Robert Berg Nilsen,

he's wondering

what he thinks

about the Congo-lesic Rumba

and the Likran artists

like Papa Wemba.

Yes, that's true.

But I love it.

So,

Congo-lesic music,

people have to understand

that it's the background

to a lot of the music

that's popular now,

and Afro-pop

and everything else.

That's true

from Congo-lesic music.

That's exactly the full episode

of Nigera,

where it's exactly the same.

Yes,

but they say

one thing,

the other,

the cultural thing.

So,

I'm going to make something nice

for Nigera and the others.

But,

in any case,

coffee and lunch.

Yes.

It's something more

than an artist

as a historical Congo

that's actually

a thing

that changes the game.

I love Roma,

I love Afro-pop music.

It's something

that's Congo-lesic.

So,

it's actually

on Spotify.

Yes,

coffee and lunch.

It's actually

on Spotify.

Yes,

coffee and lunch.

Yes,

coffee and lunch.

Coffee and lunch.

Coffee and lunch.

I'm going to check it out.

Papa Wemba is very easy to remember.

Yes,

that's true.

Maron Forshage Berge,

probably his sister

from Sander Berge.

What do you think

the Congo-lesic

is about

the Congo-Leopold?

He is,

and

there was

George Floyd

and Plaggat.

People started

racing with his

statue in

Belgium.

Yes,

because it was

a bit of a Congo-Leopold

statue there.

Yes,

it was.

They were taken

and it was

a Congo-lesic in

Belgium.

Yes,

that's

true.

You

can't,

for example,

I don't know,

Robert.

Yes,

there are

Congo-lesic.

There are

many differences

between the Congo

and the

Democratic

Republic of Congo.

I have

done a little research

on that,

because I

like to talk

French,

eat

the same

food,

and

the same

culture.

And I

am

just

an artist

of the

Europeans.

But

Congo-Brassaville,

which

is often called

more

than that.

But

when they

became

independent in

1960s,

the

Republic of Congo

sat down

just like

Angola

and

worked

hard with

Soviet

and

Communism.

They

collaborated with

Soviet

and

Soviet

and

Soviet

and

Soviet

and

Soviet

and

Soviet.

But

you always know

how to

do it.

Yes,

it's very good

to have them

good control

and people

decide.

It's always

democratic.

I'm

stable

country

anyway,

more than

an

abode in Sweden,

but there are

much less

resources and

such things.

So

in sight

you know

what to do.

Yes,

not a bridge

but

maybe

a beautiful day.

Elizabeth Dreiser

asks

what is the best

landmark in Congo.

She says

she knows

what it is.

So

we know

much more than

me

because

I'm

drinking

Vitalo.

Let's

send

another question

every time.

He

asks

which

souvenir

must

buy

made of

wood.

Those

masks

I don't

understand

what you mean.

Yes,

it will be

a bit

funny to hear

about women

and have it

on the wall

at home

I think.

Yes,

and dad

says

it's

demonic

things.

It's

dangerous.

So

it's

normal.

So

it's

common to

see

and hear

and have

just been

in a

house

reporter.

No,

we have

some

radio

stuff

and a

bit

TV.

I don't think

we have

anything to

see

and hear

in Congo

is

the

story that

goes.

Yes,

in the end

you have a plan for that?

Yes,

a bit of coffee

and a bit of

VB

something like that

I'll talk about

and then

we'll

have a

panel

bowl.

She's

70 years old.

Yes,

I like him.

A little bit of

cake there.

Yes,

yes.

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Denne uken fortsetter vi reisen gjennom den demokratiske republikken Kongo. Hvordan er det å gifte seg der? Er det en trygg og god flyplass man lett kan snike en Louie Vutton-koffert uten å tiltrekke seg uønsket oppmerksomhet? Kan man skaffe seg førerkort i uforskammet ung alder? Kan man virkelig bruke majones til alt? Og er virkelig den gjennomsnittlige mannlige kongoleser så, kremt, imponerende som ryktet skal ha det til? Dette, og mye mer, blir besvart i denne episoden. I tillegg til vas, fjås og Einars mer eller mindre kvalitetsikrede fakta får vi høre fra ukens gjest, nevøen til en Nobels fredsprisvinner, grunnlegger av en barneskole i Kongo og spiss på Stabæk, Mushaga Bakenga.



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