El Partidazo de COPE: #CampodelGas: Edición especial (01-09-2023)

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Two books collide, rival nations.

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Jaime Huarte and Josubil García

Hello, Hugo Arte, who is here by my side, hello Jaime, how are you?

Good evening, it's great to be here in the month of August.

It's a pleasure.

Even here, José Luis Garci, hello, director, how are you?

A very big hug for both of you from here.

Very well, it seems to me that in the middle of summer.

Can you tell us the name of the field of gas?

It's a name that always invites you to talk a little, right?

We can't miss it because, look, I was talking precisely with you before I started running.

One of the stories that this sport has is that every day something happens,

apart from normal activity, right?

I mean, you always remember ephemeral and combat,

which have passed the history of very hard fights,

of many, of many, that is, that the countries were paralyzed.

To see, I always tell the anecdote of Manny Paquiao when he was going to fight,

in the war, in the Philippines, between the army and the guerrilla,

and they called each other, as if they were those of Gila,

and they called each other, but this was serious, really,

and they stopped, they stopped, and said, hey, from 11 to 12 when they touched,

there was a tregua, and then in the island, in Belfast,

in the island of Lida, in the only place where Catholic and Protestant convivians lived,

would be the Ignatians.

What a good movie from Vox, it's a good movie.

It's a movie, that's a movie,

and it was also very funny because the actors,

Daniel Day-Lewis, is a great actor, of course,

and then, to prepare the role, he trained with Barry McWigan,

who was world champion,

and then he took it so seriously, that those directors know a lot about the actors,

when they get into Ened, this guy, and he said,

they give me a couple of years more and I'm the world champion.

Daniel Day-Lewis is famous for that, not for being very famous.

No, no, it was terrifying, I think, let's go,

the typical hunger of these actors.

No, no, as if it were a real training,

not for a movie, but to fight.

That's what it is, and it's noticeable,

because in the scenes that Vox has,

there are some sticks with the other,

and I say, let's see.

I have a list, but now I'll tell you,

but I could have had a list of the best Vox movies.

Well, the director is used to it,

when they don't ask for lists.

You like the lists, right?

Let's see, what champions have you brought?

Well, I have taken a list that Jaime gave me.

Yes, because we have, look, two Spanish actors,

a Mexican and an Argentine,

because I think they have also been in their countries,

one is no longer among us, Carlos Monzón,

who is no longer among us,

but it was in Argentina, I don't know,

Maradona was a fanatic of Monzón,

his death, despite being in very difficult circumstances,

because then, in his extra-deportive life, there was a disaster.

No, he was a terrible person.

Terrible, terrible.

He was very bad to people,

well, the woman threw her out of the window.

She threw her out of the window.

It was a mistake.

But, friend, as a fan,

Monzón is among Marvin Habler and Ray Sugar-Robbins.

Yes, to me, one of the three best I've ever seen.

Indeed.

In front of the three.

I'm going to read the list and do a couple of...

That one was about the average weight,

because, for example, I was talking about the average weight,

which the director often says,

but when you say it,

well, the fucking movie ranking,

the movie from Western,

from the time of...

Well, that's the same thing, right?

Because in the average weight,

look, to me, one of these fights,

a fight that I would have liked to see

was Carlos Monzón and Marvin Habler,

which didn't match,

because Marvin Habler was a fast,

rough, but, of course,

Monzón was an executor.

I mean, with a coldness,

with a sense of the...

I would have liked to see who would have...

It's the artificial intelligence that he's going to do it in short.

No, but that's what I was going to say now.

You've seen it, because, of course,

in the moment that they put the robot into artificial intelligence,

so many fights, so many camps,

they're going to learn everything about boxing,

and the one who comes out there is invincible,

he can't win anything.

There are going to be the real lists.

Well, I say that I have this list,

Jaime has passed it, there are 10 fighters,

there are 10 very good,

but they're from 10 to 1,

we're going to stop at some.

That's why I'm saying,

for example, in this list, the tenth,

if you want to say a little phrase like that,

the tenth is Roberto Mano de Piedra Durán.

Look, another one at that level.

It seems to me that you've made a list

of 10 number 1s.

That's right.

You're not bad.

It's impressive.

Maybe you don't agree.

The new one is Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd Mayweather is the last boss

of the last 15, 20 years.

He's a champion.

Well, he's beaten.

That's right, and he's been removed.

It's true that he doesn't have that little point,

for example, that Durán reached,

that people loved him,

because Floyd Mayweather, in the end,

became the Monet.

He's the only one left.

I think everyone on the list

fought against everyone.

And Floyd Mayweather, when he came...

A commercial vision.

Monet, well, he was the handsome boy

from today, and he changed.

Monet's power, you know what I'm going to do,

he came out there throwing money.

Well, the eighth, I don't have this one

located, is Alexis Arguello.

Alexis Arguello.

The explosive flak.

Nicaragüense.

That's why Pluma Super Pluma.

Yes, three world champions.

It was Pluma Super Pluma

and Ligero, and he lost

when he entered the fourth crown.

Well, we're talking about idols.

But he gave me a lot to be

light, 178.

Very high, the explosive flak.

That was the podder, because it was

very high and it was the boxing perfection.

Mayweather, for example,

was the defensive perfection.

Durán had it all.

He was the world champion.

Yes, indeed.

A cathedra.

Well, the seventh is

Carlos Monzón.

Monzón.

Monzón.

He said some things about him.

Super aggressive.

Kao.

And then Monzón,

who was also organized

in Beladas, there in Monte Carlo,

because he was a friend of

Alén Delón,

of Ben Mondeau.

It was something

in Argentina, I tell you.

I think it's Gardel,

Monzón and Maradona.

It's a thing of...

And now Leo Messi.

I think Messi puts him a little less

because...

he's a normal guy.

Well, this is

Suga Ray Leunard.

Ray Suga, Leunard.

I think we talked about him the other day.

The American smile.

An Olympic gold in...

Montreal 76.

In Montreal 76, I mean,

terrible gold.

I mean, the personalized intelligence.

What fight did you have with the hitman?

Indeed, with Tommy Harn.

I can't say what fight.

It's what you say,

but Tommy was there, Marvin Halden.

The last fight of Marvin

that he didn't want to fight

against Leunard

and he lost.

The fifth on this list, which I don't have

is Archimour.

I've been thinking about the history of the fight.

Number one, indisputable.

I haven't thought about it better

than what happens when you want to be heavy

and then you lose, right?

But, well, with Rocky Marciano

it was his idol, and he almost

ended up crying, Rocky Marciano.

Yes, I'm reading here that he had a fight

with Rocky Marciano,

which gave him the return to the fight.

Of course, and then he also lost with Ali.

Cassius Clay.

Cassius Clay, because it was Cassius Clay.

Indeed, there is that Cassius Clay.

You see the fight with Archimour

and Cassius Clay is indisputable.

He is a god of boxing.

A god when the sky is dark,

you don't know this.

It's important to read here in the copy.

It was reincarnated

in Cassius Clay.

I'm going to entertain myself a little

and I'm going to vote.

And that was Cassius Clay, impressive.

And the problem that Archimour had

which was at that time

that it didn't exist like these

intermediate weights that there are now

and it's the cross weight.

The heavy weights did not reach 80 kilos

and they already faced

the heavy weight.

Maybe they weighed 95 kilos

some more, almost 100 kilos.

It's the best heavyweight in history.

Of course.

And it has the victory record

before the limit.

No one, I think I'm talking about memory.

About 140 kilos

there are victories or

victories at the top.

140 victories at the top.

A barbarity.

The fourth is

this is a great fighter, Julio César Chávez.

Chávez?

The titan of Mexico.

I had the opportunity to be with him.

I don't know.

I was, for example, in Los Angeles,

director, I had to see

how he moved, I don't know

what would be the great actors

of the time of Julio, but Chávez was the same.

Especially with the

hispanos that he had

he came to any place

I didn't tell him to fight with

Ravires, he hadn't lost

he was going to fight with José Luis Ravires.

Of course.

They were friends.

Here in the reportage

Chávez was the champion that took the most risks

in each of his fights.

It's possible, that's why.

And then that famous

thin red line

that separates you, you know

to say

I'm at risk

there is even the bull there

at the height of the moral

and goes, and Chávez goes.

And he chose a fragment

Jaime Ugarte of a fight

that sounds like this.

Julio, you're very strong, put your heart in it.

Fight for your family.

Let's go, let's go.

This one has put us in trouble

but we're going to put the fuck there.

You have what you have.

You have what you have

for the love of God, Julio.

You have what you have, fuck.

You have what you have there.

Let's go up to him.

What a fight this is.

This is one of the...

This is one of the best fights

in the history of boxing.

And the last one you tell me.

Of course, two invicts.

Julio César Chávez

against another Olympic invict

Meldrick Taylor.

Meldrick was very good.

How? He was winning the fight.

Meldrick.

But well, now yes.

He had a...

I was going to say a fracture.

A cut.

In Meldrick Taylor's lips.

I don't know what round.

He swallowed us and we drank two liters of blood.

Yes.

We played the fight live.

In the 5th place.

In the 5th place and I was...

Of course.

With Sabir at the end of the fight.

And some jokes.

What is this?

He wins by KO

in the last...

30 seconds.

When there were 20 seconds left

the referee...

The referee stopped the fight

because he saved his life.

Indeed.

What we talked about in that program

of the famous...

Of Benikid Paret.

Here, fortunately, Mr. Richard Steele

gets in between means

because he was totally destroyed

by what comes to Mexico

in order to send him to the other neighborhood.

That's amazing.

What else can we have?

The first three, according to this list

that is a list.

These three are the first three.

The third on the list is...

Joey Luis.

The competitor of Detroit.

Correct.

Joey Luis could be the first.

He has the defense record.

A new style.

More technical.

He's a great idol of multitudes.

In Detroit.

He's the bomber of Detroit.

I have the chance to see

Joey Luis Arena.

I've seen him too.

I've seen the statue with his...

That's right.

He has a statue with

the iconic fist

of the bomber of Detroit.

Joey Luis, as we said...

There are three...

I don't care.

Indeed.

Here would be Xecuo.

These are the first numbers.

I'm reading here that you say...

I don't know why you don't put it in between the first ten.

This third place in the top ten of all time.

You only debate against Rocky Marciano.

No.

No, because Rocky Marciano

was removed from the team.

He won, for example, to Joey Luis.

But he was a Joey Luis.

He was already back.

And Rocky Marciano also passed it.

He suffered a lot from Joey Luis.

Yes, because he was already

less and Rocky Marciano was...

Well, and then a myth.

He died in a traffic accident.

He had the intelligence of the plane traffic.

Exactly.

Of removing without a hitch.

49 fights, 49 victories, 43 chaos.

For Rocky Marciano.

But he doesn't have the level

of these we were talking about.

Well, in the second...

Look at the level.

What a great striker.

In the second place, Suga Ray Robinson.

Well, this is the beginning of time.

This is the beginning of the century.

What we talked about a lot.

I always...

The sound of...

It fascinates me as a journalist and such.

How he narrates, right?

That is, because in all the movies

the narrator always appears.

Right, director?

Yes, of course.

He is a united character in the history of the show.

The narrator.

Both of the radio and television.

It's incredible.

But Ray Suga Robinson is free for free.

I think he's the best he's ever seen.

Because...

He was the world champion.

He was going to dance.

He was the dancer in the party rooms.

He came back and recovered the dintro.

It's incredible.

But we all had difficulties.

The rivals he had

were the gold age of the piece.

That's right.

But then with the famous Jack Lamota.

With everyone.

And it was also in Harlem

to go with Suga Ray.

It was discreet with an ambulance.

He was with a Cadillac Rosa.

He was reading.

He was reading that

people loved him so much

that they made movies of his rivals

of Jack Lamota.

And that

Jack Lamota

faced Robinson six times.

Yes, yes, yes.

He won a Jack Lamota.

And he says that the movie is called

Toro salvaje.

Of course.

And that he interprets Jack Lamota.

But it's Jack Lamota's life.

And it's Robert De Niro.

He ended up telling jokes

and funny things in the cabarets.

That's funny.

That anecdote.

The one in the movie is his real wife, Vicky.

Yes, but I tell you it's a movie

more than a horror movie.

Because it's a horror movie.

It's true.

Look at the bad guys.

He was his wife.

His brother.

He was terrible.

And in the end he ended up alone.

Vicky left him.

He was very handsome.

He won five times.

He won five times.

He was the world champion.

He was so funny that he said

he was going to get into diabetes

to fight so much with sugar.

Yes, yes.

And the champion of our Europe

is one of the biggest Javidos.

The one who dies on the plane.

Marcel Cerdán.

He was the best of Europe.

The best of Europe.

And the world champion.

Marcel Cerdán.

He was the best.

He was the best.

And on top of that

what happens in the story

because he had a romance with

Edith Piaf.

And that's why he died.

Because she said,

I can't wait for you to come on board.

He took the plane

and disappeared on the plane.

He made the songs.

He laughed about him.

It was an incredible love story.

By the way, I read several biographies.

And the idol of him

was Ben Baret, the soccer player.

Of course.

He was an athlete in Madrid.

Yes, because he was also a footballer.

He played with number seven.

But he was going to be a better striker.

He was very good at Ben Baret.

He was very good.

Yes, he was an extraordinary player.

Number one.

His name is known all over the world.

Do you like it or not?

He was chosen as the best sportsman

of the 20th century by all his teammates.

Mohamed Ali.

He was...

I don't know.

If you want your country to be known all over the world.

Of course.

He faced his own government.

He was incredible.

Many times we talk about him.

We believe that the best is Casius Marcellus Clay.

The best.

The best is Mohamed Ali.

The best is Casius Marcellus Clay.

The best is Casius Marcellus Clay.

The best.

The best is Mohamed Ali.

He was a champion.

He was the champion who destroyed the race.

When he had the color of the Vietnam.

I think that's the best.

I think that's the best.

We're talking about him because

when he was still...

Casius Clay was his slave.

When he was an Olympic gold medalist.

He was in full swing.

When we talk about Archimburg.

He was invincible.

And when he was denied to go to the Vietnam war.

He was punished by the Commission.

He was removed from the world title.

He was three years apart.

Without being able to vote or anything.

Imagine three years.

I always say the same thing.

Now he's an elite sportsman.

He's three years old.

Rodrigo.

He's three years old.

Three years old.

Three years old to anyone.

He's crazy.

The sport is an icon of many things.

For the history.

For the younger people.

Or for the young people who have the image of Muhammad Ali.

Turning on the TV of

the Olympic Games of Atlanta.

He threw the gold medal.

He threw the gold medal.

When he was tremendous.

He said he was...

He left him to go to a restaurant.

Exactly.

He threw the gold medal.

And then they gave him back the gold medal.

He accepted it.

It's unthinkable.

That commitment he had.

Is he wrong?

In the fight against racism.

Of course.

He wasn't wrong.

He was in the right direction.

At another time.

Desi Owens won four gold medals.

And they gave him a tribute in a hotel.

And he couldn't enter through the main door.

He had to enter through the equipment door.

Desi Owens.

He was an amateur.

And he didn't do much.

The Olympic Games of the 1930s.

The ones of Hitler.

But he evolved.

Thanks to these people.

He was like killing a god.

To see what the south was.

In that time.

And Cassius Clayton was one of the amateur.

And he said he didn't do anything to these people.

I don't know why they were so good.

To kill people.

He said he didn't do anything.

And he was like the counter-culture.

At the time of the hippies.

He was doing it before.

Before.

Of all those freedoms that are being achieved.

He was a genius.

Like a person.

Where he would have been an amateur.

And the oratory.

That people had.

When they can on YouTube.

I think they interview the BBC.

That they can talk about the blacks.

And they say.

And they leave.

Tarzan Redas.

A blond guy.

And he says.

And he says.

The blacks are dark.

Where are they in the sky?

The blacks.

And he says.

And he says.

And he says.

And he says.

And he says.

And he says.

they are for a good time.

I hope those who are.

With the heat of the summer.

From this August.

It's another movie.

Will Smith by Muhammad Ali.

He did well.

And Garcy.

Yeah.

He was very well studied.

And it happens that.

When they do the fight.

It can't be like this.

They are not real.

The Dope a Dope, the Quinsasa fight, yes, his idea was to escape from the ropes and hit everything you have until you get tired, which is a suicide, of course, but it worked out well.

Look, it's one of the few movies that he's very good at, coinciding with the director, as I can't put it in another way.

But then the movie, don't you believe, is one of the few that I've liked the least about Boxeo?

I'm cold, I think.

In exchange for Boxeo, I talked about it before. It's a movie about what Boxeo is, really.

Yes, yes, yes. And listen, Cinderella Man?

Yes, Cinderella Man.

The movie of James J. Abrado, which is the real life.

It's also real, right?

Of course, of course, it was true.

It's what I'm talking about, Luis, of course.

Another day we have to do the ranking, since you don't have a ranking in Garcy that makes a lot of decisions.

Yes, yes, yes.

You have to do a Spanish ranking.

Yes, yes, there are some that are quite good.

Well, Garcy Huarte, I'll let you continue the path.

After this stop, you continue the path.

Thank you very much for this conversation.

A very strong hug, director.

Thank you very much.

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