El Partidazo de COPE: #CampodelGas (27-10-2023)
COPE 10/27/23 - Episode Page - 19m - PDF Transcript
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but first of all
seasons 1 to 2
yes, one should be 10 by 2
we should have a total of 22 by 3
like last season
because for example
For me, what makes me angry is that suddenly, let's say in this case Abanda Serrano, who is an
extra class boxer, who says, I want to box 12 out of 3 minutes and there is no regulation,
but not the advice, but the firm, I imagine that the medical committees of each organization
say, well, in that case, that they regulate, that is, no one debuts, a guy does not debute
at 12 jumps, he debuts at 4 jumps and then maybe he does 6 jumps and then 8 jumps,
that is, he is like regularized, no one debuts at 12 jumps, it is something that is
the machenco, you understand me, that is, but after having had a career to kill,
indeed, but I mean that he is regulated and here, what surprises me is not the
exact, it is not the initiative of Abanda Serrano, but rather the advice says, I do not
get involved in the mess, but the other organizations that also ...
I think they are disparate, I think they were 10 jumps at 2 minutes, they are 20 minutes,
I could give him 8 out of 3, 24 minutes, even up to 10, look what I tell you,
up to 10 jumps, because those minutes that people do not give him so much time,
they say, hey, those are 6 more minutes, that is, the spectators with whom you have spoken
say when, you get to that limit that does not give you much time.
Well, look, we are going to ask ...
Women in their final training if they are prepared for so much, because it is a lot,
it is a lot, apart from men, normally elite women enter a lot with men,
that is, because they do not have to do sparring, they are used to doing ...
But it is not the same ...
But I think that beyond the physical grip of a combat, it is the consequences of ...
Yes, but ...
We are going to ask the doctor Alejandro Mejuto ...
You are prepared, for example, for an assault, and when you go wrong, it is ending,
it is an assault of 2 minutes, but if you have one more minute left, there it is, friends,
and the detainee comes ...
Of course, of course, but that is why the chaos is also in the male ocean,
that is, we have said many times in the fights, especially in the big women's fights,
the assaults remain a little short.
I mean, I say because I think they are sometimes a little precipitated,
if they had those three minutes, I think they could have dosified a little more,
but hey, let's talk to the specialist ...
Yes, it is the doctor Alejandro Mejuto, the doctor of the Boxing Federation,
the doctor of the Deporola, doctor, how are you? Good evening.
Hello, good evening.
Welcome to the field of basketball, how are you?
Well, very well, thank you very much for the interview.
From the medical point of view, is there any inconvenience in this decision?
Well, from the medical point of view,
let's see, it is when it is less controversial,
that is to say, that in this case Amanda Serrano,
due to her characteristics, is a boxer who has a level of preparation
that can allow her this,
for what you comment, because she does her sparring with men
and that she can be conditionally prepared to do two three-minute jumps,
I think you have to take this as an exceptional case,
but the rule we cannot make of an isolated case,
a generalization, that is, the entire female boxer is organized
for two-minute jumps from the subject to the professional until now,
all training is based on that and it is also based on the characteristics,
even if we see, if we see in the cervical column of women,
it is not the male, it is the ability to assimilate the blows,
it is true that the glue is not the same,
the ability to assimilate the cervical column is not the same.
When we presented in the Social Society of Medicine and Sports,
a few months ago, a protocol of the management of the emotional cinema,
we know that women, the female sex is a risk factor
to have a worse pronostic in the emotional cinema,
that is, there are particularities regarding the sex that must be taken care of,
so the fact that Amanda Serrano can have some particularities
around her preparation, we cannot make the generalization of that this is correct.
And doctor, how strange, what I was wondering,
I do not know, you do not put or there is any kind of normative,
because the girls, the truth, I, almost all those with whom I have spoken,
they want to kiss at three minutes, they want to kiss at three minutes.
The issue of duration, well, there would be what there is.
Of course, it could be eight, eight or ten, but I say that that should not be,
how to adjust, to adjust, right?
Maybe the debate should not be two or three minutes,
maybe it should be like this, three minutes, but eight or ten.
That, right?
The problem is not eight, eight, ten, two, three,
in the end, how many blows do we put to the boxer
and in what circumstances of fatigue?
That is the problem.
Of course, the more fatigue, the more risk, evidently.
Logically.
That is the problem.
I understand that the spectator, what the spectator wants,
logically, but we see it through health.
So, the dangerous blows are those that occur in the context of fatigue.
Yes.
In the context, and of course, that minute, that minute of gold,
between two and three, what Jaime says, of course,
is that there is less chaos, of course,
indeed, but it is that those blows do harm,
then, if you go up.
Well, that was not the case, doctor, it was the old descent of the 15 jumps
in the male body at 12, it was because there had been many medical studies
that confirmed what the doctor is saying, that indeed,
when the physique was already over, when the fatigue was already there,
there were some limits, that was when they were produced,
that is, between 12 and 14, 15,
many injuries were produced there, and I think that's where the thing comes from, right?
Of course, it is that I, if you ask me,
fighting three jumps would be a barbarity, no,
maybe it wouldn't be, but then maybe
we are going to go down to the number of jumps.
Ok, perfect.
So, 10 out of 2 are 20 minutes of fighting?
Yes, 8 out of 3 are 24.
And then it looks more like me, I think,
which is the box, so that I can also justify,
hey, that then there is a contact sport, and of course,
of course, 10 out of 2.
At 12 out of 3?
Of course, if there are 10, it is double, in case.
Practically double, yes.
Practically double, yes.
And see, tired, I go,
we are going to discover it in hours, right?
But I don't think that, I think that Amandas Arrano, today...
Not that much?
Yes, he wins before the limit.
With those minutes of more that he is going to have there,
and also, surely,
I don't think I am a divine,
look, you don't know what I'm going to say.
When you said that of the 15 jumps,
there it was agreed very carefully,
the Manila trail,
that they ended up destroyed,
I, Frasi, and that...
In the 14th?
Yes, in the 14th.
And the 15th is no longer possible.
Well, they had very much in mind,
they ended up tied, both of them.
The other one, very bad,
that he stayed with the park, who jumped all the way.
Well, when he said, he has never been so close to death,
I saw him that day,
and then if we go back
to the history of boxing,
at first it was Finnish,
then it started to be 25 years old.
Yes, yes, with time it has been reduced.
To minimize the years, of course.
Very well, doctors,
thank you for having been this night
in the field of gas,
we will be very attentive and see how this evolves.
Let's see what happens.
And strength of power, huh?
Strength of power.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
A hug, see you soon.
A strong hug.
Well, today we have boxing,
and tomorrow we also have...
Wait, I don't want to end with this,
more than anything, because there is no...
The girl says that there are no studies
that say the opposite,
because she says it,
and she pointed it out to the doctor,
the one who hits you is a girl.
Of course, you have a weaker one,
maybe the part of...
The one who hits you is less confident.
Yes, actively.
The one who hits you is less confident.
But the worst thing is that...
you see that...
Okay, the jump is ending,
there are 10, 12 seconds left,
and you go,
I'll kick it and you'll finish.
No, you have 10, 12 seconds left,
and one minute left.
There comes the time.
Yes, there are...
There are the referee as well,
if they are ready,
if they produce...
In this sport,
that's why they invented inferiority.
Of course.
And the referee intervenes,
no? There is superiority.
Well, that was tonight,
and tomorrow at night,
we also have a fight,
in this case in Riyadh,
in Saudi Arabia,
in Dazón,
we are going to see the Tyson Fury
against Francis Enghanu.
That's good.
Jaime doesn't like this a lot.
Me neither.
By the way,
the corner of Francis Enghanu
is going to be...
Mike Tyson.
Mike Tyson.
The best is the promo.
And in Ganu,
Cristiano Ronaldo has given
a 100,000 euros watch.
They have made a promotion.
And it turns out that Tyson Fury
is called Tyson by Mike Tyson.
And the other one goes to the other corner.
It's all a mess.
I wouldn't say more.
It's all a mess.
It's a show.
The only good thing is...
Let's see if the truth is good.
It's still good.
There are good fights.
Yes, but the only good thing about this
is that Tyson Fury has said
that he is waiting,
that he has signed the contract
with Usig,
for the fight,
and that it will be on December 23.
The other one is not so clear
that it is that date,
because he says
that it is three months
what he needs,
and of course,
more fighting this morning.
What he means is that
it can be...
Yes, a cut.
A cut.
It will be in November,
and always.
No, I don't think
that fight is...
Less than two months.
Less than two months.
Tyson Fury can say
that you already know
what that date is.
Like I said,
I'll start before.
But I don't know.
I don't know if it's going to be a strategy...
Yes, so that it doesn't be done later.
So that it doesn't be done later.
Yes, until I see you in the movie.
Indeed.
It sounds like the bell of the bell.
Exactly.
I don't believe it.
Yes, yes.
That's it.
And tomorrow,
I'll fight John Fair
in the gym of the radio.
The truth is that
preparation has been very good.
We've been in Las Vegas for three months.
I've been able to do sparring
with people of many levels.
And in the end,
there has also been my level,
apart from being able to train
with wings
and being able to live the boxing
in another way.
And above all,
to live focusing on boxing,
which is
what changes the most
from Spain to the United States.
And the truth is that
I really want to
return to the ring on Saturday.
I'm very close to the weight.
The truth is that
the super light weight
is very controlled.
And I really want to be able to
boxing,
to debut in the stadium
of the ring,
which I never boxing there.
And the truth is that
there is a lot of history.
Everyone in the boxing world
has passed through there.
And I don't,
so I want to be able
to be there
and have a good fight.
And people are very happy
with the result.
Well, our goal
in the short term
is to boxing three times this year.
Let's see if we can do
another event
before the year ends
and everything goes well
this Saturday.
And for 2024,
I would like to
boxing in Bilbao.
I have been boxing in Bilbao
for a long time.
And the truth is that
I would be very excited.
I think people from Bilbao
also want to see me there
again.
So let's see
if we can
join those two things
and have a good event there.
I hope it's possible
that Bilbao returns.
This is the first fight
after the one we saw
against Pieta Petrov
in the boxing world,
which was very good.
It was very good.
It was very good.
It was very good.
I liked it.
Four jumps,
but it was a terrible jump.
It was the last time
that everyone
was going to say
that we have seen
wonderful that day.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The last fight
against an Englishman.
Exactly.
And it seems
to me that
that is finite.
Yes.
And John Ferke
fights against Andy Colquay.
Yes.
It is an Englishman,
but the important thing
is that it has been
three months,
as he has said
in Las Vegas,
in the United States,
with Ismael Salas,
a Cuban coach.
It was going to be very good.
And that, by the way,
from one of the declarations
Salas said that
he did not know her.
He said,
you know,
that he cuts
as it is said a little
in the Argot, right?
And,
I mean,
well,
all that has to be
plasmated in the ring
and see if the next year
he also has
some good opportunity,
because the truth is
that the fight
there in the Wishing Center
was very brave.
He left us
a great feeling.
With good,
really fast,
good, good,
precise.
Look at the weight,
what we say so many times
when it was
with the height
that had a super plumb.
Of course,
in the end,
no matter how much
you want to squeeze,
look, now it's not
super light
and super light.
There have been two categories
where it really is
more comfortable.
More comfortable and strong.
No, no, no.
Of course, the other is.
Before,
you could not do that.
It was in eight categories.
It is to go from one to the other.
I do not tell you anything.
It is that the other,
of course,
go through.
That's why there was so much
difference.
Of course.
That's why the famous
great champions
of the heavy semi-weight type
Archimour.
All of a sudden,
they went up to the heavy weight
and fiddled them
because, of course,
they started to go up
from 79 kilos
to when they started
90, 94.
95, of course.
Well,
we have a weekend
of boxing and football.
Director,
Barça Madrid,
what do you think
is going to happen?
I think there may be a tie.
And Jaime,
what do you think?
Well,
also,
with goals.
Well,
a tie.
We will have fun.
Yes,
a tie with goals
and then there will be
no satisfaction.
No one.
No one.
No one.
There will be
Cristó,
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
It was the hand
that had to be pressed.
Exactly.
The push
or the second card
of this.
No,
no,
it's going to be fine.
Jaime,
let's go.
We'll see you in a moment.
Let's go.
Director,
let's take positions.
Happy week.
Thank you.
We're getting together.
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Con José Luis Garci y Jaime Ugarte. Primer combate entre dos mujeres con 12 asaltos de 3 minutos. Tyson Fury peleará contra Francis Ngannou por 50 millones de dólares.