El Partidazo de COPE: #CampodelGas (13-10-2023)
COPE 10/13/23 - Episode Page - 20m - PDF Transcript
Ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rumble!
There is no football, but there is always boxing, and if not, we will talk about something related to the world of boxing, with noble art.
Yes, Mr. Director, how are you?
Of course, yes.
How are you?
Very well, but there is always boxing.
You can see another age, or walk in the goal, as I saw this week, in a fight with Óscar de la Hoya, with Mayweather, who I was seeing.
Hello Jaime, how are you?
How do we like the Riemembert?
Yes, well, listen, but that fight that, I do not know if you saw it from the beginning, that looked like the Óscar de Hollywood, that all the actors were there.
All of them!
All of them! All of them! All of them! All of them! deportists!
It's that two bans on the river, eh?
Yes, yes, of course.
Of the Oye and Mayweather, they dragged those two.
of course, tremendous, the first time a fight that was not heavy, I got an incredible pay per view
and then that is a fight for example to show those who somehow believe that it is good,
in the end they are two guys hitting each other, it is incredible all the movements, all the
pure technique of the two that I do not think I lost by the way, I had already seen it, I saw it again
and I lost nothing, from the wave that the fame had, like the archers, I have told this anecdote,
I remember when I saw the first defeat of Oscar de la Oya was against Tito Trinidad,
who were the famous bets that I had seen, that you saw it, that you saw it, that is the one from the
upheaval, that is, that is, then there and I when I said I have taken a little money
for Trinidad because they gave him 8 to 1, 200 dollars, I bet on Tito, I say that it seemed too much,
for me the favorite was from La Oya, but 8 to 1, it seems very good to me, but all those who were
there, all the colleagues from Mexico, from ISP, in Las Vegas, they told me that they had just
lost 200 dollars, La Oya does not lose points in Las Vegas, never, this is
the judges, the judges were among them, they were bought, it was impossible, then he looked there and
he was half happy, that is, 1,600, 1,600, and how much did they get in the room, nothing, he lost money,
but the night was good, I went there to see the museums, but I had to win Trinidad, that fight,
well, I say that there is La Oya, for me the Trinidad of La Oya was a couple and they gave him
a loss of La Oya, in the other one with Mosley who was also a couple and they gave him a loss of La Oya,
I say for all those who said that La Oya was the king of them, I think Trinidad won Trinidad,
but the other day he did not lose again, but for the first 6 or 7 assaults they were from
Oscar de La Oya, it was much better and more precise, the blows are all but that boy has also been very
lucky with Mayweather throughout his career, because there are also other fights that are also very
fair, neither with Mayweather or Pateao, Pateao's record is still the same, yes,
with the passage of time he has not surpassed him in any fight, that is the one that has been most
recalled, Mayweather or Pateao is that I went and that came late because of course everyone had seen what
but the first one did not lose it either, Pateao, Mayweather or Pateao,
the first one, when we saw it, it was that fight of so many people and that is the record of the record that
did not lose, they were also Mayweather, but also a couple of judges for a long time that I
thought was much better, I was wrong with the other one, the first one with Gigi,
that is Golovkin with Canelo, he did not lose the first one and the judges did not lose it, the other day
as there is going to be in boxing one day of these you will see what is going to happen,
what fight was like that, I remember that it is already the one of the United Kingdom, that is, it passes from
dark castings, that is, it is like a norm, Cecilia Braikus fought, the first leg of the last
great champion before these last ones before Serrano, Ketiteil, that came as a
propitiatory victim against Terry Harper, an Englishman and so on, two judges for Italy,
Panama and an English judge and the English referee, the referee did not have to intervene but in
case the English referee, the two judges gave a duel, the two independent judges and the Englishman
won, 97-93, that is, they won, the athletic match against Real Sociedad did not result in 5-1,
2-1 and 3-2, the director, leti Lobe is good, you see him as a possible candidate,
he will even win the league this year, I see him lucky, that is what he has not had for many years and
it is the most important thing, it is not that he is in shape, it is the best of the luck, because he
leads immediately in Pamplona, on the day of the Cadiz, who rose from 0-2, he waited for nothing,
exhausted in the last 15-20 minutes all the matches and on the other hand, he scores a goal,
it is a good luck, he did it like that, but the luck, man, without luck in life, let's go, the only
match where, as we call it, the Duke of Wellington, Bellican, he did not give one, it was with the
athlete, he did not give one, but why do you say, they made a good montage, that day it did not work,
fortunately, they are not all machines, when they pass in the pool, I do not remember who asked him
in the fight of Canelo with Charlo, they asked him and Charlo, why was he not also, and one who said,
they are not machines, they are people, there are days when one is not well, so the famous
sensations that the athletes have made, no, but there is another thing, I recognize what
I said, for example, on Thursday I was on the radio talking with those of sport,
then they say that Madrid played very badly, why did they play very badly, no, because if that had been
If yes, then yes, but why do the athletes let him play, because no because the goals are incredible,
they mark It is not unbelievable to know that this is the magic of the
That's why I'm more and more in favor of Canelo.
Of course.
Well, I wanted to talk about Canelo because in the last list of the book by book, which is always very subjective,
it's not a mathematical operation to say so many points, you're the first, you're the second,
Canelo is relegated to the fourth or fifth position.
Well, to the fourth, but to me...
No, no, no, it's still a controversial figure and it will continue to be forever, do what you do.
The book by book doesn't mean that he's the best boxer.
For example, I think that in the classification that seems to be Transcrowford number one,
I think it's correct because the victory he had against Earl Spence is very important.
It's more important than Canelo's victory.
Against Arofor, of course.
Of course, that's number two.
That's number two.
Now it's number nine.
Now it's number two.
That's number one.
And Usyk is number three.
Well, that's number four.
And Arofor...
And Usyk...
You can be number three.
Usyk has just won for Kao to Daniel D'Ivoire.
Of course.
I mean, to me, I don't think he's...
And he's much lower.
It's Tyson Fury, which is not the one that we're going to pose again.
Now it's number 28.
And Canelo has won.
And it's number four.
And I think it's correct.
I mean, what would I have to say?
Why do I say Canelo?
Because this other Mexican has just won.
The South Rambide.
Yes.
It's a good fight that's already in the crossweight.
Fuck, the first thing he says is that to see if Canelo...
I forget.
I can't...
I can't be together.
I can't be together.
Fuck, it's like fighting with the champions of the crossweight.
And when...
I mean, for example, it's Vibol.
Yes.
He's tall, too.
I think Vibol...
With the victory that you...
What's going to happen is that Vibol...
He hasn't fought again since Canelo.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
And it's the other one that's...
They're classified as Vibol and Vettarvier.
Fuck, they're the two kings of the semi-heavyweight.
Why don't they fight?
Of course.
Of course.
Yes, that's one of the permanent incognites that we have right now in the world of boxing.
By the way, speaking of Fiori, which you just mentioned, Jaime...
Fight on the 28 against Francis Engano, this UFC champion.
Correct.
And then it will be the fight against Husik.
And it has already been known that the total rider that will receive Fiori for the two fights is more than 200 million euros.
Yes, it's possible.
It's the 28.
200 million euros.
Yes, but that's a final fight.
I...
Come on, I'm not going to see it.
With that I'll tell you everything.
Besides, he doesn't put the belt in the game.
What?
But if the other is one of the UFC, this one?
Yes, yes, yes.
A parenthesis for sad news.
The one of Xavi Moya, right?
Yes, Xavi Moya, with 55 years of experience.
A motorcycle accident.
An authentic icon of the general contact sports in Barcelona and the boxing in particular.
Because I always remember...
I remember how alive the boxing was when we decided to move to Barcelona.
He didn't go like a lot of people.
He's always been there.
But when he fought with Castillejo...
Castillejo against Xavi Moya.
He came out with the Spanish shirt.
I remember with the Xavi Moya.
There wasn't a bracelet.
Why?
Because Xavi Moya was a strong boxer.
He beat Castillejo and so on.
And Castillejo, who was Javi Castillejo, who had been a world champion.
So, he's broken up.
I mean, as always.
When it comes to good confrontations,
people can't help it.
I hope that Vela de Valladolid is successful.
The European champion.
Well, let's see it.
Man, you can't do it anymore.
Two Spanish fighters.
And beaten.
Both very good.
With a European championship.
I think that, to begin with,
on the same day, they want to do...
Although it's not the same,
but, well, José Luis Navarro Jr.
who's the European champion.
This Silver, who's the same day.
One is in Córdoba.
There were some fans who said,
fuck, they want to do it on the same day.
I want to see both.
Of course, Córdoba and Valladolid.
But, well,
each one has their own audience.
The one that Navarro is in Madrid.
That's Madrid at the end.
Yes, Navarro is in Madrid.
So, well, we'll see.
It should be the same Vela de Valladolid.
Man, it would be...
Well, since they're KS...
Well, I hope so.
That would be a TV show.
Of course.
And I said, well,
let's see.
You for one and you for another.
And this TV show.
And this one here.
At nine at night.
And you make an extraordinary cartel.
Of course.
Of course, of course.
Because what you do there is this.
Why?
Because it has been a success
this weekend's fight
of Libud.
Against Warrington.
Against Warrington.
Go for a fight.
It's beautiful.
Very nice.
You were dominating Warrington.
You were clearly winning.
Before leaving the last jump,
we all thought that the guys were done.
Yes, well, they were.
They were playing.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And they gave the basket, the ball,
everything, everything.
And I know what it is.
And then, besides,
that it was better.
That it was more...
It was winning.
That's what it is.
That the three of them were going to
against Warrington.
But look at the detail of the referee.
What is expensive.
Two Englishmen.
One of the lids and the other one.
They don't have one.
And the referee bothered Warrington.
I told him that there is also...
Maybe he accelerated a little bit more
because he wanted to balance.
If he wins the round,
well, this is like a tie.
I mean, I don't lose this point.
And that's at the end of that round
when he scores.
Which, by the way,
the combination is pink.
The perfection.
Alibut have placed it in the lids.
Like the number one of all the lids.
It's like Torreo going in to kill him.
He takes it.
That's it.
A counter.
It's that many times
people stay with the direct hit,
with the one that impacts you 100% on the face.
And it's much more lessive
the one that touches you in the leg,
that touches you in the lower part of the jaw
and turns the neck.
And there the legs don't match.
Because it seems that it's a blow
that it's not very strong.
But the gesture that makes the neck...
It's damaged.
It's completely damaged.
They've suffered it.
That's why they train a lot.
Look at the elite training
as if they were the astronauts
doing many laps
so that they get dizzy.
Because that's the effect.
I say a bit of a joke.
Do you think they've moved the ring?
Of course.
Yes, it's like when you cover your eyes
they give you four or five laps
you cover your eyes
and you say,
wow, it moves everything.
That's what they train.
That's what they train.
So when you're disoriented
what happened to him?
That it wasn't just a blow.
But the combination of the e-boot...
When they put it on,
they put it on a slow camera.
That you can see how they get in.
It's tremendous.
They all get in.
They're all without a guard.
The man has completely disbanded.
One and the other.
And when he throws it,
there's a kind of a resort
that you put on foot
but it's already there.
That's the spirit of the champion.
That's destroyed.
That's like when you're from the bulls.
The bull is dead on foot.
That's the spirit of the champion.
He gets up because...
Because of inertia.
Because of inertia,
because of the courage.
He says,
how?
I can't lose to all the champions
because they sold it very well.
A duel,
because they're both very footballers.
Both of them.
Yes, they don't even have a lead.
A lead and such.
Yes.
So I can't defraud
all the people who came to see me.
Sheffield,
that's the spirit of boxing.
And the guy gets up
and he protests
when...
As I say,
I ask him what his name is
and he says he's Fransinatron.
Well,
as he said,
they stole him.
I imagine it's the defensive tactic
that's obligated.
It's more.
If not for the referee,
the bulls.
The bulls.
The bulls.
No, the bulls.
Apart from that,
he makes a very clear gesture.
It's cool,
but you can't do that.
When you realize it,
you turn around,
you turn around.
You turn around
and the bulls
look at your eyes
and even if
you had that minute
maybe
if it happens before,
even if the bell
has to remind people
that it doesn't save.
Even if the bell sounds,
if you're here,
the bulls can stop the fight.
It can stop the fight.
That's if
when the bell comes out
that it has produced
20 seconds before.
But what you do is,
normally,
as it comes a minute of rest,
they give you time
to see if it recovers.
If they shoot
and they count,
the bell sounds.
Five,
I don't know,
it doesn't save you
and the bell,
the bell saves you
before.
When it's 20 seconds
and you get up
when it's 10,
if you're able to grab,
I don't know
when,
you say,
you saved the bell
because you have that minute,
although I think,
I don't know what you'll think,
but for me,
for example,
Warrington
it seems to me
that it's the accumulation
of those battles
that he's had.
The fight with Franton
fractured the bandit,
the brown-collar,
the Mexican,
the fights with Kiko
and Wal.
So,
I was a bit surprised
on social media
that people all over the world
are in favor of Libuth.
I mean,
that's the thing
of Kiko's work.
I had it.
Kiko,
he gave it to Emilio
the present prize
and he gave it to him
a very nice interview,
very emotional.
Very emotional.
Very emotional.
I acknowledge
that he was in favor of Libuth
because
everything he had done
is that
I acknowledge
that it was the best Warrington fight
in a long time
and that he deserved to win.
The most boxy of all.
He was winning
and he was winning.
That's what Libuth
did a couple of times.
He did the gesture
of hitting me back
and another one with his head.
And he took a point.
And he took a point.
So,
for what I know,
what surprised Libuth
and then for Libuth
what surprised me
was how easy
it was to get together
with the same
and how easy
it was not to see you.
It's true.
It's true.
Yes, because he was
on more than one occasion
with the doors.
With Lang,
with Lang,
he was for the Tinte.
Yes.
I mean,
he was at the door
in that last dramatic assault
that he took from the ring.
Yes, yes.
From the ring,
it's true.
Yes, yes.
And here it was the 8th, right?
This was the 7th.
The 7th, 8th.
Yes, yes, yes.
But with Libuth
he can't give it to him anymore.
I mean,
it hasn't happened to him
once,
that he was lucky.
Yes.
It has happened several times.
He is used to living there
in the style.
Yes,
it seems that he says...
Live in the drama.
That's it.
Live in the drama.
Live in the drama.
It was...
Well,
it was...
Live in the drama.
Live in the drama.
Live in the drama.
It was a great champion,
but he came from the door
and now he has recovered a little.
But,
look,
Chavi Moya,
who is resting,
said one thing,
that he retired
in time.
Let's see Miguel Bercel's,
because he has been a great champion,
he has a terrible record,
but of course,
very tough defeats
with Oscar Valdés,
with Akatila,
in short,
but he still has
the truth that physically
he is one of these
prospects,
he is well,
from Zon
to the three in the morning.
So, in the morning,
from Saturday to Sunday.
From Saturday to Sunday,
but there is nothing.
No, there is no football,
there is nothing.
We don't have until Sunday,
the game is over.
Yes,
the second of Spain,
yes,
to the 9 minus 4.
It's going to be fine,
against Jalan and
the whole team,
let's see how it goes.
Yes,
but well,
we have to wait
until Spain is classified
and see
how it goes.
Because I'm disappointed
with the World Cup,
that's not his World Cup
and nothing.
30 or 26?
I understand,
I understand
what they would have said.
In 1930
it began to explode.
The first World Cup
was celebrated.
He won Uruguay.
It's been 100 years.
Uruguay is a world
that we play
and we do it.
And from there
the World Cup is celebrated
in Spain
and this
and whatever.
But now, of course,
when Argentina arrives,
they say,
no, me too,
because there is Paraguay
and not a game.
I want several.
And then they say
the final will be here
and I don't know what they say.
No, no, Morocco.
But of course.
The disaster, yes.
Yes.
But who has now,
I don't want to sweep
for my country,
but who has a stadium
like the new one in Madrid
that is going to have
the one in Barcelona,
the one in Antibilbao,
the one in Leti de Madrid.
Yes.
They are fabulous stadiums.
Yes, yes, yes.
And to make a stadium
now in Rabat
or in Casablanca
for 100,000
that is going to be there.
I write them 100%
because,
besides,
I have a very good idea
of Uruguay.
For a soccer nation.
For a soccer nation.
Yes, yes, yes.
But then I go to the World Cup
wherever it is.
It was the first World Cup
and you won it
and it's been 100 years
and you...
It's like France
where sometimes
when you go to a place
with a kind of game.
And you are going to inaugurate it
and then
these things of saying
are three continents.
You can say
that you are going to play
a game
in Assumption,
in Paraguay,
you catch the plane,
you finish the game
on Sunday
and Wednesday
you go to Casablanca.
Or Casablanca.
Or Casablanca.
Well, it depends.
But it seems that
you already lose a little
in the sense of
three countries,
a lot, right?
A little bit.
Well,
the next one is going to be
in three countries,
Mexico,
the United States and Canada.
We are in the same place.
In order to be good,
the two countries
are going to split.
They are going to split.
They are going to split.
There will be something
in all parts.
But I think
the United States is going to split.
In the United States,
in the United States
there are six hours
of flying.
Imagine,
if you play in Ottawa
and then you play in Mexico.
That's why.
That's why.
Anyway,
Jaime,
have a great week.
Have a great week.
Director,
happy week.
Thank you.
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