El Partidazo de COPE: #CampodelGas (13-10-2023)

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Ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rumble!

There is no football, but there is always boxing, and if not, we will talk about something related to the world of boxing, with noble art.

Yes, Mr. Director, how are you?

Of course, yes.

How are you?

Very well, but there is always boxing.

You can see another age, or walk in the goal, as I saw this week, in a fight with Óscar de la Hoya, with Mayweather, who I was seeing.

Hello Jaime, how are you?

How do we like the Riemembert?

Yes, well, listen, but that fight that, I do not know if you saw it from the beginning, that looked like the Óscar de Hollywood, that all the actors were there.

All of them!

All of them! All of them! All of them! All of them! deportists!

It's that two bans on the river, eh?

Yes, yes, of course.

Of the Oye and Mayweather, they dragged those two.

of course, tremendous, the first time a fight that was not heavy, I got an incredible pay per view

and then that is a fight for example to show those who somehow believe that it is good,

in the end they are two guys hitting each other, it is incredible all the movements, all the

pure technique of the two that I do not think I lost by the way, I had already seen it, I saw it again

and I lost nothing, from the wave that the fame had, like the archers, I have told this anecdote,

I remember when I saw the first defeat of Oscar de la Oya was against Tito Trinidad,

who were the famous bets that I had seen, that you saw it, that you saw it, that is the one from the

upheaval, that is, that is, then there and I when I said I have taken a little money

for Trinidad because they gave him 8 to 1, 200 dollars, I bet on Tito, I say that it seemed too much,

for me the favorite was from La Oya, but 8 to 1, it seems very good to me, but all those who were

there, all the colleagues from Mexico, from ISP, in Las Vegas, they told me that they had just

lost 200 dollars, La Oya does not lose points in Las Vegas, never, this is

the judges, the judges were among them, they were bought, it was impossible, then he looked there and

he was half happy, that is, 1,600, 1,600, and how much did they get in the room, nothing, he lost money,

but the night was good, I went there to see the museums, but I had to win Trinidad, that fight,

well, I say that there is La Oya, for me the Trinidad of La Oya was a couple and they gave him

a loss of La Oya, in the other one with Mosley who was also a couple and they gave him a loss of La Oya,

I say for all those who said that La Oya was the king of them, I think Trinidad won Trinidad,

but the other day he did not lose again, but for the first 6 or 7 assaults they were from

Oscar de La Oya, it was much better and more precise, the blows are all but that boy has also been very

lucky with Mayweather throughout his career, because there are also other fights that are also very

fair, neither with Mayweather or Pateao, Pateao's record is still the same, yes,

with the passage of time he has not surpassed him in any fight, that is the one that has been most

recalled, Mayweather or Pateao is that I went and that came late because of course everyone had seen what

but the first one did not lose it either, Pateao, Mayweather or Pateao,

the first one, when we saw it, it was that fight of so many people and that is the record of the record that

did not lose, they were also Mayweather, but also a couple of judges for a long time that I

thought was much better, I was wrong with the other one, the first one with Gigi,

that is Golovkin with Canelo, he did not lose the first one and the judges did not lose it, the other day

as there is going to be in boxing one day of these you will see what is going to happen,

what fight was like that, I remember that it is already the one of the United Kingdom, that is, it passes from

dark castings, that is, it is like a norm, Cecilia Braikus fought, the first leg of the last

great champion before these last ones before Serrano, Ketiteil, that came as a

propitiatory victim against Terry Harper, an Englishman and so on, two judges for Italy,

Panama and an English judge and the English referee, the referee did not have to intervene but in

case the English referee, the two judges gave a duel, the two independent judges and the Englishman

won, 97-93, that is, they won, the athletic match against Real Sociedad did not result in 5-1,

2-1 and 3-2, the director, leti Lobe is good, you see him as a possible candidate,

he will even win the league this year, I see him lucky, that is what he has not had for many years and

it is the most important thing, it is not that he is in shape, it is the best of the luck, because he

leads immediately in Pamplona, on the day of the Cadiz, who rose from 0-2, he waited for nothing,

exhausted in the last 15-20 minutes all the matches and on the other hand, he scores a goal,

it is a good luck, he did it like that, but the luck, man, without luck in life, let's go, the only

match where, as we call it, the Duke of Wellington, Bellican, he did not give one, it was with the

athlete, he did not give one, but why do you say, they made a good montage, that day it did not work,

fortunately, they are not all machines, when they pass in the pool, I do not remember who asked him

in the fight of Canelo with Charlo, they asked him and Charlo, why was he not also, and one who said,

they are not machines, they are people, there are days when one is not well, so the famous

sensations that the athletes have made, no, but there is another thing, I recognize what

I said, for example, on Thursday I was on the radio talking with those of sport,

then they say that Madrid played very badly, why did they play very badly, no, because if that had been

If yes, then yes, but why do the athletes let him play, because no because the goals are incredible,

they mark It is not unbelievable to know that this is the magic of the

That's why I'm more and more in favor of Canelo.

Of course.

Well, I wanted to talk about Canelo because in the last list of the book by book, which is always very subjective,

it's not a mathematical operation to say so many points, you're the first, you're the second,

Canelo is relegated to the fourth or fifth position.

Well, to the fourth, but to me...

No, no, no, it's still a controversial figure and it will continue to be forever, do what you do.

The book by book doesn't mean that he's the best boxer.

For example, I think that in the classification that seems to be Transcrowford number one,

I think it's correct because the victory he had against Earl Spence is very important.

It's more important than Canelo's victory.

Against Arofor, of course.

Of course, that's number two.

That's number two.

Now it's number nine.

Now it's number two.

That's number one.

And Usyk is number three.

Well, that's number four.

And Arofor...

And Usyk...

You can be number three.

Usyk has just won for Kao to Daniel D'Ivoire.

Of course.

I mean, to me, I don't think he's...

And he's much lower.

It's Tyson Fury, which is not the one that we're going to pose again.

Now it's number 28.

And Canelo has won.

And it's number four.

And I think it's correct.

I mean, what would I have to say?

Why do I say Canelo?

Because this other Mexican has just won.

The South Rambide.

Yes.

It's a good fight that's already in the crossweight.

Fuck, the first thing he says is that to see if Canelo...

I forget.

I can't...

I can't be together.

I can't be together.

Fuck, it's like fighting with the champions of the crossweight.

And when...

I mean, for example, it's Vibol.

Yes.

He's tall, too.

I think Vibol...

With the victory that you...

What's going to happen is that Vibol...

He hasn't fought again since Canelo.

Of course.

Of course.

Of course.

And it's the other one that's...

They're classified as Vibol and Vettarvier.

Fuck, they're the two kings of the semi-heavyweight.

Why don't they fight?

Of course.

Of course.

Yes, that's one of the permanent incognites that we have right now in the world of boxing.

By the way, speaking of Fiori, which you just mentioned, Jaime...

Fight on the 28 against Francis Engano, this UFC champion.

Correct.

And then it will be the fight against Husik.

And it has already been known that the total rider that will receive Fiori for the two fights is more than 200 million euros.

Yes, it's possible.

It's the 28.

200 million euros.

Yes, but that's a final fight.

I...

Come on, I'm not going to see it.

With that I'll tell you everything.

Besides, he doesn't put the belt in the game.

What?

But if the other is one of the UFC, this one?

Yes, yes, yes.

A parenthesis for sad news.

The one of Xavi Moya, right?

Yes, Xavi Moya, with 55 years of experience.

A motorcycle accident.

An authentic icon of the general contact sports in Barcelona and the boxing in particular.

Because I always remember...

I remember how alive the boxing was when we decided to move to Barcelona.

He didn't go like a lot of people.

He's always been there.

But when he fought with Castillejo...

Castillejo against Xavi Moya.

He came out with the Spanish shirt.

I remember with the Xavi Moya.

There wasn't a bracelet.

Why?

Because Xavi Moya was a strong boxer.

He beat Castillejo and so on.

And Castillejo, who was Javi Castillejo, who had been a world champion.

So, he's broken up.

I mean, as always.

When it comes to good confrontations,

people can't help it.

I hope that Vela de Valladolid is successful.

The European champion.

Well, let's see it.

Man, you can't do it anymore.

Two Spanish fighters.

And beaten.

Both very good.

With a European championship.

I think that, to begin with,

on the same day, they want to do...

Although it's not the same,

but, well, José Luis Navarro Jr.

who's the European champion.

This Silver, who's the same day.

One is in Córdoba.

There were some fans who said,

fuck, they want to do it on the same day.

I want to see both.

Of course, Córdoba and Valladolid.

But, well,

each one has their own audience.

The one that Navarro is in Madrid.

That's Madrid at the end.

Yes, Navarro is in Madrid.

So, well, we'll see.

It should be the same Vela de Valladolid.

Man, it would be...

Well, since they're KS...

Well, I hope so.

That would be a TV show.

Of course.

And I said, well,

let's see.

You for one and you for another.

And this TV show.

And this one here.

At nine at night.

And you make an extraordinary cartel.

Of course.

Of course, of course.

Because what you do there is this.

Why?

Because it has been a success

this weekend's fight

of Libud.

Against Warrington.

Against Warrington.

Go for a fight.

It's beautiful.

Very nice.

You were dominating Warrington.

You were clearly winning.

Before leaving the last jump,

we all thought that the guys were done.

Yes, well, they were.

They were playing.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

And they gave the basket, the ball,

everything, everything.

And I know what it is.

And then, besides,

that it was better.

That it was more...

It was winning.

That's what it is.

That the three of them were going to

against Warrington.

But look at the detail of the referee.

What is expensive.

Two Englishmen.

One of the lids and the other one.

They don't have one.

And the referee bothered Warrington.

I told him that there is also...

Maybe he accelerated a little bit more

because he wanted to balance.

If he wins the round,

well, this is like a tie.

I mean, I don't lose this point.

And that's at the end of that round

when he scores.

Which, by the way,

the combination is pink.

The perfection.

Alibut have placed it in the lids.

Like the number one of all the lids.

It's like Torreo going in to kill him.

He takes it.

That's it.

A counter.

It's that many times

people stay with the direct hit,

with the one that impacts you 100% on the face.

And it's much more lessive

the one that touches you in the leg,

that touches you in the lower part of the jaw

and turns the neck.

And there the legs don't match.

Because it seems that it's a blow

that it's not very strong.

But the gesture that makes the neck...

It's damaged.

It's completely damaged.

They've suffered it.

That's why they train a lot.

Look at the elite training

as if they were the astronauts

doing many laps

so that they get dizzy.

Because that's the effect.

I say a bit of a joke.

Do you think they've moved the ring?

Of course.

Yes, it's like when you cover your eyes

they give you four or five laps

you cover your eyes

and you say,

wow, it moves everything.

That's what they train.

That's what they train.

So when you're disoriented

what happened to him?

That it wasn't just a blow.

But the combination of the e-boot...

When they put it on,

they put it on a slow camera.

That you can see how they get in.

It's tremendous.

They all get in.

They're all without a guard.

The man has completely disbanded.

One and the other.

And when he throws it,

there's a kind of a resort

that you put on foot

but it's already there.

That's the spirit of the champion.

That's destroyed.

That's like when you're from the bulls.

The bull is dead on foot.

That's the spirit of the champion.

He gets up because...

Because of inertia.

Because of inertia,

because of the courage.

He says,

how?

I can't lose to all the champions

because they sold it very well.

A duel,

because they're both very footballers.

Both of them.

Yes, they don't even have a lead.

A lead and such.

Yes.

So I can't defraud

all the people who came to see me.

Sheffield,

that's the spirit of boxing.

And the guy gets up

and he protests

when...

As I say,

I ask him what his name is

and he says he's Fransinatron.

Well,

as he said,

they stole him.

I imagine it's the defensive tactic

that's obligated.

It's more.

If not for the referee,

the bulls.

The bulls.

The bulls.

No, the bulls.

Apart from that,

he makes a very clear gesture.

It's cool,

but you can't do that.

When you realize it,

you turn around,

you turn around.

You turn around

and the bulls

look at your eyes

and even if

you had that minute

maybe

if it happens before,

even if the bell

has to remind people

that it doesn't save.

Even if the bell sounds,

if you're here,

the bulls can stop the fight.

It can stop the fight.

That's if

when the bell comes out

that it has produced

20 seconds before.

But what you do is,

normally,

as it comes a minute of rest,

they give you time

to see if it recovers.

If they shoot

and they count,

the bell sounds.

Five,

I don't know,

it doesn't save you

and the bell,

the bell saves you

before.

When it's 20 seconds

and you get up

when it's 10,

if you're able to grab,

I don't know

when,

you say,

you saved the bell

because you have that minute,

although I think,

I don't know what you'll think,

but for me,

for example,

Warrington

it seems to me

that it's the accumulation

of those battles

that he's had.

The fight with Franton

fractured the bandit,

the brown-collar,

the Mexican,

the fights with Kiko

and Wal.

So,

I was a bit surprised

on social media

that people all over the world

are in favor of Libuth.

I mean,

that's the thing

of Kiko's work.

I had it.

Kiko,

he gave it to Emilio

the present prize

and he gave it to him

a very nice interview,

very emotional.

Very emotional.

Very emotional.

I acknowledge

that he was in favor of Libuth

because

everything he had done

is that

I acknowledge

that it was the best Warrington fight

in a long time

and that he deserved to win.

The most boxy of all.

He was winning

and he was winning.

That's what Libuth

did a couple of times.

He did the gesture

of hitting me back

and another one with his head.

And he took a point.

And he took a point.

So,

for what I know,

what surprised Libuth

and then for Libuth

what surprised me

was how easy

it was to get together

with the same

and how easy

it was not to see you.

It's true.

It's true.

Yes, because he was

on more than one occasion

with the doors.

With Lang,

with Lang,

he was for the Tinte.

Yes.

I mean,

he was at the door

in that last dramatic assault

that he took from the ring.

Yes, yes.

From the ring,

it's true.

Yes, yes.

And here it was the 8th, right?

This was the 7th.

The 7th, 8th.

Yes, yes, yes.

But with Libuth

he can't give it to him anymore.

I mean,

it hasn't happened to him

once,

that he was lucky.

Yes.

It has happened several times.

He is used to living there

in the style.

Yes,

it seems that he says...

Live in the drama.

That's it.

Live in the drama.

Live in the drama.

It was...

Well,

it was...

Live in the drama.

Live in the drama.

Live in the drama.

It was a great champion,

but he came from the door

and now he has recovered a little.

But,

look,

Chavi Moya,

who is resting,

said one thing,

that he retired

in time.

Let's see Miguel Bercel's,

because he has been a great champion,

he has a terrible record,

but of course,

very tough defeats

with Oscar Valdés,

with Akatila,

in short,

but he still has

the truth that physically

he is one of these

prospects,

he is well,

from Zon

to the three in the morning.

So, in the morning,

from Saturday to Sunday.

From Saturday to Sunday,

but there is nothing.

No, there is no football,

there is nothing.

We don't have until Sunday,

the game is over.

Yes,

the second of Spain,

yes,

to the 9 minus 4.

It's going to be fine,

against Jalan and

the whole team,

let's see how it goes.

Yes,

but well,

we have to wait

until Spain is classified

and see

how it goes.

Because I'm disappointed

with the World Cup,

that's not his World Cup

and nothing.

30 or 26?

I understand,

I understand

what they would have said.

In 1930

it began to explode.

The first World Cup

was celebrated.

He won Uruguay.

It's been 100 years.

Uruguay is a world

that we play

and we do it.

And from there

the World Cup is celebrated

in Spain

and this

and whatever.

But now, of course,

when Argentina arrives,

they say,

no, me too,

because there is Paraguay

and not a game.

I want several.

And then they say

the final will be here

and I don't know what they say.

No, no, Morocco.

But of course.

The disaster, yes.

Yes.

But who has now,

I don't want to sweep

for my country,

but who has a stadium

like the new one in Madrid

that is going to have

the one in Barcelona,

the one in Antibilbao,

the one in Leti de Madrid.

Yes.

They are fabulous stadiums.

Yes, yes, yes.

And to make a stadium

now in Rabat

or in Casablanca

for 100,000

that is going to be there.

I write them 100%

because,

besides,

I have a very good idea

of Uruguay.

For a soccer nation.

For a soccer nation.

Yes, yes, yes.

But then I go to the World Cup

wherever it is.

It was the first World Cup

and you won it

and it's been 100 years

and you...

It's like France

where sometimes

when you go to a place

with a kind of game.

And you are going to inaugurate it

and then

these things of saying

are three continents.

You can say

that you are going to play

a game

in Assumption,

in Paraguay,

you catch the plane,

you finish the game

on Sunday

and Wednesday

you go to Casablanca.

Or Casablanca.

Or Casablanca.

Well, it depends.

But it seems that

you already lose a little

in the sense of

three countries,

a lot, right?

A little bit.

Well,

the next one is going to be

in three countries,

Mexico,

the United States and Canada.

We are in the same place.

In order to be good,

the two countries

are going to split.

They are going to split.

They are going to split.

There will be something

in all parts.

But I think

the United States is going to split.

In the United States,

in the United States

there are six hours

of flying.

Imagine,

if you play in Ottawa

and then you play in Mexico.

That's why.

That's why.

Anyway,

Jaime,

have a great week.

Have a great week.

Director,

happy week.

Thank you.

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