El Partidazo de COPE: #CampoDelGas (08-09-2023)

COPE COPE 9/8/23 - Episode Page - 18m - PDF Transcript

Ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rumble!

Two worlds collide, rival nations

It's Louisville and Crocky, USA

Mohamad Ali, Ali!

What a great match!

What a pleasure to meet you, with Jaime García La Jaime, how are you?

And of course, with the director García, hello director!

How are you doing?

Good evening, how are you?

Fine, I'm at the end of the summer, I see the beginning of the summer, which is wonderful.

Where are you?

Are you in Madrid?

No, I'm in Madrid today, I've been touring here, which by the way, I haven't seen this for a long time,

I'm in a good mood today, it's hot, it's hot, I've gone up to the temperatures,

and that sensation of...

Well, next week it's going to be a big hit.

We'll see you here, right?

Yes sir, we'll see each other.

Give us a hug here.

How was the summer going, director?

Eh?

How was the summer going?

I think it was, I've been working, I've been writing, I've been working, but it's not good.

What's that? Another book you've written?

Yes, it's not a book, but no, it's a small thing, but no, seriously, but it's been good.

At this height, well, you start writing less than that, what you have.

It was a good walk, taking a bath, a nap, watching a movie,

I've seen all the World Games, all the sports, I haven't lost any of them,

and you're in the meetings, right?

Yes, from the Diamond.

And he told me, several people who have been in the exhibition,

Yes.

Yes, in Garcine.

Yes, in Garcine, and...

Ah, it's true, there's not a lot of people going there.

A lot of people, I've been excited, and I liked it, it's so beautiful.

It's true.

In the Condeduc room, in the Condeduc party.

Yes, in the backyard, because it's with the air conditioning.

And it's free, it's free.

It's free.

Free, it's free, it's a bit expensive.

And it's up to us, Jaime.

Seriously, we'll see you there.

This stamp we're currently representing, it's over there.

Also, with the background, they put us in such a beautiful way.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

It will be happy, right?

Yes, yes, yes.

Yes, yes, yes.

Well, now we're going to talk about a lot of things related to the PSA,

but first, we have to do the official farewell.

Well, not the farewell, but the official greeting, right?

A world champion who has already announced that he will retire.

Of course.

And that we're going to see how life will focus on the game from now on.

I'm sure it's related to boxing, that doesn't fit.

Of course.

Of course, yes.

The truth is that we were waiting for him here, right?

Besides, we're happy that he will retire.

Yes, I honestly...

Yes.

Yes, because, man, if it had happened that suddenly,

he would have had a great opportunity,

but even that made me think,

because, hey, imagine that he has a great opportunity

and, son, he is able to take advantage of it.

With which, then, you can no longer leave it, you know?

So there is a moment, this is the sport,

I really said it a long time ago,

I didn't know that I left it,

an illustrious Joris Caroll Hoyt, right?

When he said that it is the only sport that is not played.

I have always thought of it since I was little,

when I saw the sticks.

You know, I say, fuck, how did those sticks sound?

So, when one has already arrived,

he has done everything.

He has been world champion in two categories,

champion of gold, to be recognized,

and to see the number of people who have sent him his affection,

his respect, which is a very beautiful thing,

of the international world,

of the world of boxing.

Here with Martinez,

being well with his family,

with a lot of friends,

of course, with projects

related to boxing,

when he said, look, after reflecting,

well, I think that is the final point,

to me, particularly, I applauded.

Hello Kiko, how are you? Good evening.

Hello, good evening.

Good evening.

How are you, man?

Very good, thank God, good.

We are doing very well,

we are doing very well.

Say yes, say yes.

I was going to ask you how many kilos you have taken,

I am convinced that none.

No, I am in 60 kilos,

today I am in 60 kilos,

I am at 3 kilos above the weight,

and I want to keep myself in 60, 61,

that's why I think that

there is something that we are,

the athletes,

we are not aware that if we lose,

if we get fat,

we are going to fall animically,

so I do not want to fall animically

because I get fat,

because I do not fight,

because I do not train,

and I think it is something

that I have constantly seen.

Of course.

How are you happy?

I imagine.

Obviously, I do not hear the truth,

because I loved fighting,

for me it was very important

to fight, to compete,

to get up in the morning,

having an objective,

to win someone who is better than me,

with work, with effort,

with dedication,

and for me it is something difficult,

but I think it was the time

to go to boxing healthy.

Of course,

and apart from that,

now you have to get up again

and to work and fight,

there is something else.

In the past you have not done everything,

you have been world champion,

twice,

that is,

you have to be not proud,

but something incredible,

and now you have to be,

as Jaime said,

permanent event,

in the boxing world,

and get up again,

and get back to work

in the boxing environment,

and of all the people who see it.

Because the nice thing is

to teach the boxing people too.

Now I imagine

that is what you will dedicate,

isn't it, Kiko?

Yes, now we are teaching,

well, I have been teaching

boxing for years,

because

the Spanish boxing is not stable,

you have to have a job

for what can happen,

because you are world champion

and you earn a good money,

but then you are not,

and you earn very little,

you do not earn even to live,

then you have to have

the feet on the floor,

and know that when you stop

that world champion,

you have to keep working.

Of course.

Jaime.

Yes, now then,

because you have a gym,

right, Kiko?

Yes, I have a lot of gyms

in Murcia,

and I am working in Murcia now,

giving classes.

Well, it's going to be a little

your immediate future,

you said now that you are

a man who is logical,

that you miss boxing,

but I think that your family

also deserved it,

right?

They have been

supporting you for a long time,

and now I imagine that,

especially your wife,

right?

Directly,

that it is good, right?

Now we are already calm.

Of course, because I,

at any time,

I lived,

I slept alone in a room,

I ate alone,

I trained a lot,

I trained from Monday to Monday,

because I knew that

they were going to call me today

to pray tomorrow,

so I continued to focus

every day,

I did not know

at the end of the week

with my wife,

I ate alone,

the truth is that

I lived in a world

very, very,

very complicated for my family.

Well,

well,

that's not a lot,

right?

Hey,

let me say just one thing

on my part,

Kiko,

Kiko,

which are,

for you,

the three most important moments

of your career,

obviously,

when you win

World titles,

because you say,

fuck,

these fights

were impressive,

I think there is one,

that people,

maybe,

know less,

which seems impressive to me,

which is the one of Japan,

with Hasegawa,

who was a world champion,

but hey,

what are yours?

For me,

the most important fight

that I have won

has been the one of Hasegawa,

in Japan,

to a famous salon,

winning there in his house,

for me,

it was very important,

for me,

the world championship,

winning it has ruined it,

without having anything,

and betting it all

on one card was another,

and I think that my last European,

was also something very important,

because after falling,

after the defeat

that I had with George Warrington,

and everyone told me,

at that moment,

that I would give up,

winning again in the European,

but for me,

it was also something wonderful,

I mean,

I think those three fights,

what do you say?

Well,

we stayed with...

I really like

the United States,

that they saw it on TV,

that it was...

Oh, really?

Well,

it was the first time that it was a world championship,

against Momo Romero.

The guy who was invited,

that guy,

he was great.

Romero,

remember,

he was wonderful,

in the studio,

and it was live,

like at three in the morning,

in August,

I think.

Sometimes it seems to me,

that it's a fight about me,

also,

I would put it in the trilogy.

And then,

one thing, too, Kiko,

I say,

what did you do, for example,

I think,

one of the first ones that congratulated you,

was Carl Frampton,

with whom you had battles,

I think you even have

an excellent relationship with him,

right?

Yes,

yes,

I talk a lot to him,

I talk to him from time to time,

he,

when he finished the fight

with George Worrington,

the second one,

he told me,

that he would retire,

that he had to enjoy

my family,

that I had won it by force,

but I wanted,

I couldn't go like that,

without the boxing,

in that way,

because I would,

I would have thrown myself,

all the way,

looking for a culprit,

that if the English,

that if my corner,

that if,

and I can't live with him,

is that if,

I had to try it again,

then I tried it,

I was a European champion,

and it didn't come out,

and I became world champion,

but I'm very proud of this sport,

which is,

in the end, the most important thing.

Yes,

and as you can see,

as you can see,

we remember the trajectory,

we have a lot of unforgettable moments,

in your,

in your,

in your film,

no,

it's a,

a legend,

I said that,

I said that,

I said that,

now it's a legend.

Well, yes.

Look at it,

from the scenes,

from the scenes,

from the people,

who have stuck like you,

in the ring,

but they haven't tried it,

your,

European,

it was to be,

super,

super satisfied,

and all that chaos,

of experiences you have,

damn it,

that you offer it,

to the new people,

to get closer.

Of course,

Kiko,

we send you a big hug,

we wish you the best,

and we will be in touch,

we will continue to bring you,

to consult you,

a lot of things,

of boxing.

A big hug.

A big hug.

See you soon.

Well, Kiko Martínez,

has put an end to his career,

he must have been hurt.

Of course.

It's difficult.

Of course,

because leaving a life,

a life...

Despite the risk,

it's difficult.

Look,

he's a humble person,

but what a director,

what depth,

in the words he has,

right?

And I'm very happy,

that we have,

I don't know,

for years or so,

when he told us,

that he should retire,

we said,

he can't retire like that,

he has to have that last fight,

where he won it,

and the first day,

he arrived here.

And I think it was great,

he won the title,

and that,

for his life,

he will be fantastic,

for the future.

I remember,

well, I remember,

he gave me an illusion,

the head,

in the head,

when he comes in,

he hits,

he comes out,

all the big ones,

Kiko comes out,

in the chaos,

with Kid Galajar.

Of course.

And then I say,

look,

of course,

these are unforgettable moments.

Of course,

Kid Galajar was like the champion,

not champion in the world,

again,

but in the world.

Well,

it happens that the world championships

of Vs.

in the repercussion,

of other world championships,

in the taverns.

Here,

you mean here?

Man, I mean here,

I mean...

in the夫 of Parla,

I mean,

everyone,

they have had those triumphs

world championships,

the same is the world champion

at the Bañatación Vs.

Of Vs.

Of course,

and 8 times,

that is,

no,

$2 pesos and so on.

The one who is the board

of the retire,

is Maravilha Martínez,

Well, we'll call it that too.

I think there's another legend, but this one has already been everything, and that's what we saw in those fights.

As we always say, I'm sure that Maravilla Martínez is to win 80% of the players, but of course, the bad thing is that the other three are us, you understand me?

I also think he's done everything, I think he's reflected it, and I think he's also very close to officially announcing it.

And the spinous topic, which is next October 27 in Orlando, is the World Cup between Amanda Serrano and Danila Ramos.

What's the news of all this?

Well, they've decided that the fight will be 12 jumps in 3 minutes, 3 minutes each jump.

3 minutes is the number of men, and the difference was 2, but these are 12 out of 3.

It used to be 10 out of 2.

Exactly.

What do they win with this?

Supposedly it's a show that the victories are, there are more victories before the limit, and above all, more economic bags, or that the bags are something bigger.

20 minutes to 36.

I think...

Now, the risk.

The risk.

The risk.

Here we have to listen to the doctors.

The doctors are announcing, in fact, I was told by Jaime that the World Cup will not approve this.

No, no, no, no, and the doctor of the Spanish Ferration, Alejandro Mejoto, who is a very prestigious doctor, has said that at a physical level, with that, the risk of injuries increases a lot.

Another thing is that we are not from the north and we like the trainer.

I defend him from the shell.

Yes, the shell, yes, yes.

I think that we, Camp Belgas, are against it.

Yes, we are against it.

I was going to say that a technician said that the girls suffered a lot with the trainer.

This is for men, of course.

Indeed, and they suffer much more and have more possibility of shoulder injuries.

Normal, normal.

Then here, I liked it.

I agree with the 3-minute step, because I was left short and they themselves...

But there are not so many jumps.

No, no, no, in fact, 10 jumps of 2 minutes are 20 minutes of combat.

Well, I could have 8 of 3 minutes.

8 of 3 are 24.

And there are sticks in 3 minutes of time and I think there was more.

And then, what the doctors say, there, I think, it was balanced a little.

I mean, 20 x 24.

Well, 4 minutes, but of course, now we go to 36.

No, no, no.

It's the double, almost, the duration of the combat.

No, not a double.

Hey, but above all, we have that because in 3 minutes you have the possibility of winning the assault better.

But in 2 minutes, even if it is a hit, like, 4 or 5 or 6 seconds,

in 3 minutes it is very difficult to escape already.

No, no.

And then, look, now that we are in the US Open, the girls play the best of 3 sets.

Of course.

I mean, they could play, they could play, but you probably get absolutely crazy, crazy.

Of course.

In this case, I think the girls are very good at these fights that we have seen that have raised us.

Marvelous, yes, yes.

Well, because they are also the best.

Yes, look.

Of course, of course.

You understand that if suddenly, well, I think 12 is a barbarity.

I mean, honestly, a barbarity.

I think there is going to be a moment.

Come on, if that fight is celebrated at 12 jumps, I am almost sure in a 99.9% that Amanda Serrano

will knock this girl down.

But before that.

But of course, the problem is that she can do more damage.

The damage, of course.

No, no, yes, yes, yes.

No, but yes, I would do it to see if it works.

Of course, no.

When she got down from 15 to 12, why did she get down from 15?

Of course.

Because the risks were much higher.

Because the risks were much higher.

Because the doctors realized that when she got down there, the physical was only the heart,

the tongue, and they would go to sticks and such.

And there were many accidents that said, hey, 12 is fine.

And when they are titles and such, the national titles, 10 jumps.

Do you fight without these that there are 10?

Is that 10 jumps?

It's half an hour without stopping to give those sticks, of course.

Before it was 45 minutes.

No, that was a barbaric.

Well, and in the old days.

Imagine now that anyone comes and says, no, I want to fight like Max Baer did,

at 20 jumps.

Well, if the world council has said no, we are going to see what other organisms say.

But I think that for example, the gas field is also fine.

Yes, no, no, no.

We are in Confiatec.

I think it's 3 minutes.

But not 8.

But not 8 jumps.

That's it.

Very well.

We don't have anything remarkable this weekend.

Yes, this weekend.

But yes, now there are several good fights.

Well, it's coming right away.

The panel is at the end of September.

Exactly.

But we have good fights.

The world championship of Lara.

Sorry, Lara.

Britannia.

Butte Warrington.

There you can go.

There you can go anything, especially with Warrington.

But there are good fights.

Well, the last one was another exhibition of Ushik.

Ushik, yes.

And then the very sad images of Tyson Fury, which is that I am really angry with Tyson Fury.

Because nothing happened today.

He is entertained with one of the UFC.

He is fat like a...

Well, as always.

He is going to fight with one of these...

I don't know what to say.

Ushik won well to Daniel DiWuah.

Yes.

I mean, even less.

He knocked him out.

And well, he doesn't have any excuse.

Of course, he wants 80-20.

Yes, as always.

He has three belts.

Ushik fights.

It's the number one Ushik.

He has three belts.

Hey, Tyson Fury for many is the best.

But he has a time there.

These attitudes particularly demoralize me.

It's an insult to history.

Well, yes.

Director, I wish you a happy week.

We hug you next week.

Come on.

A big hug.

Thank you.

Thank you Jaime.

A big hug.

We finish right away.

Machine-generated transcript that may contain inaccuracies.

Con Jaime Ugarte y José Luis Garci. Hablamos con Kiko Martínez, quien ha anunciado que se retira. El combate entre Amanda Serrano y Patricia Ramos serán 12 asaltos de 3 minutos.