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Jaeden Schafer & Jamie McCauley Jaeden Schafer & Jamie McCauley 10/12/23 - Episode Page - 9m - PDF Transcript

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So the AI startup Anthropic is in the headlines once again.

This isn't even, I think, a week after they've just secured their $4 billion commitment

from AWS, which to be fair, is not just like a, it wasn't really just a straight up $4

billion commitment.

I think it was $1.6 or something like that, $1.6 billion that they'll give them upfront

and then the rest is like AWS has the option of investing up to $4 billion.

So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out and I think maybe the uncertainty around

that is kind of what's pushing Anthropic to go and look for other funding.

I think the potential deal they're working on right now kind of spotlights this like

prevailing enthusiasm among tech leaders to kind of stake their claim on Silicon Valley's

AI sector.

This is obviously a hot sector and Anthropic is one of the biggest players in this space.

So a lot of people are just essentially trying to make safe bets by just betting on who's

already raised the most money, who's kind of already the most far ahead, not taking

some of the risky bets on earlier stage companies.

Now I think what's really interesting that we've all found out by analyzing the market

recently is there's recently some charts that came out kind of showing who invested at what

point in Instacart's shares.

So the winners from Instacart because of course it just went public and so kind of after it

goes public and you see where the final stocks fall and where everything ends, that's kind

of like the official market valuation for Instacart and then you can kind of look back

at all of their different funding rounds and see who invested, how much they invested

and so how much everyone made.

So pretty much what we found from Instacart is that early investors of course seed, series

A, series B, these people were all winners.

As the rounds started to go more and more and more forward and you got into what's called

growth stage rounds where essentially the company's already kind of grown, we see it

has a product market fit, it's getting some mass adoption and they're just raising money

to help them like exponentially grow faster.

All of those rounds after the IPO price gave it its final valuation actually were down

so people like SoftBank, people like Tiger Global, some of these massive companies came

in invested a ton of money for growth rounds and they actually lost money on this thing.

So I'm interested to see how that same strategy is going to be playing out with some of these

AI deals like we see with Anthropic here, they're just raising more and more, billions

and billions more.

If the people putting money in today, putting billions into Anthropic today are going to

have the same fate as kind of this whole Instacart growth round investors.

So while the valuation for Anthropic hasn't been locked down as of now, I think insiders

familiar with the matter on this current kind of round of funding that they're trying to

do apparently remained anonymous, which of course as always you got to take it with a

grain of salt when you got anonymous insiders, but they've hinted that the valuation could

be around $30 billion, a number that initially was mentioned by some tech news platforms

specifically the information, which kind of they haven't often the information has inside

scoops on all of these new AI companies, they've had a lot of, you know, successful accurate

scoops on open AI, for example, and some other players in the space, so, you know, still

take it with a grain of salt when there's an anonymous source, but in any case, if Anthropic

does manage to seal the deal on this funding round, I think it's going to underscore the

huge momentum behind startup specializing in the creation of foundational models, right?

Not just people building AI tools on top of them, but the actual foundational models themselves.

I think these models, of course, known for their capability to pretty much suck in a

ton of data, essentially what Chai GPT is doing, they're then, you know, spit out and

used for tons of different tools, people use them for, you know, essentially integrate

them into all of these different AI startups that we see today.

So I think very cool, however, they do come with a very hefty price tag in terms of operations,

so because of this startups in this space included Anthropic and of course open AI are

always, it seems on the lookout for more, you know, fuel to feed the giant money pile

that is training these AI models.

So I think their kind of quest for capital right now isn't just a startup story.

I think big tech behemoths are also not kind of sitting by earlier this year, Google's

parent company, Alphabet put $450 million into Anthropic, Amazon's involvement in Anthropic

doesn't stop at funding.

They've also stepped up as the startup's main cloud computing supplier and I think that's

actually why Amazon and AWS gave Anthropic like the $4 billion deal or, you know, $1.6

billion deal is because they wanted them to come on to AWS to do all their computing,

so they kind of knew they'd get some of that money back.

So really they're kind of offering them chips.

So not to be outdone, Microsoft has committed another, or I think earlier this year, sorry,

Microsoft committed, of course, $10 billion to open AI.

So really a lot of these big players are backing these startups to, you know, very large sums

of money.

So I think the kind of unwavering interest from Anthropic's corporate allies in championing

it is very evident.

However, I would say that some sources are suggest that sealing this new deal might hinge

on the participation of major financial institutions.

So particularly Wall Street or some of the dominant venture capital firms.

And these kind of partners would definitely play a pivotal role in finalizing the company's

valuation and kind of spearheading the round.

However, a lot of these firms at the same time right now have been struggling to raise,

you know, fresh rounds of funding when we're talking about some of the big venture capital

firms.

So they tend to be a little bit slower right now.

Honestly, I hear they are making plays, they are making investments, but what I'm hearing

a lot of these like huge plays into this AI space, it's coming from like Microsoft,

Google, Amazon, it's coming from big tech companies that are profitable that are, or

you know, generating a lot of revenue that can put money into these things.

So as a little background, established back in 2021 by a bunch of different open AI alumni,

Anthropic has been growing really fast.

And I think, you know, it definitely is coming out with some good products.

It has Claude, which I personally use because you can put like huge like chunks of text,

you can like get it to print, you upload pretty much an entire PDF to Claude, like an of a

book like a, you know, 100 page book and ask it questions about it and it'll be able to

pull stuff out.

So like that's very, very cool.

I think it's not just about efficiency, it's also kind of crafted to have a human touch

is what they say really there.

It's like kind of like a super safe personal bot.

That's like what Claude and Anthropics like idea is.

In any case, I think only time is going to tell if Anthropics, you know, impressive fundraising

journey is going to realize its full potential.

But I think it's clear that this AI gold rush right now is far from over.

If they're going and looking for another $2 billion is a very hot area.

A lot of people are going to be looking at it.

So definitely a very interesting company to follow.

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Join us for an exciting episode as we explore the latest developments in the world of AI with Anthropic, who is on the verge of securing another impressive $2 billion in funding. Dive into the details of their ongoing funding talks and the potential impact on the AI industry. Don't miss this conversation on the future of AI and investment trends!


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